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==Name origins==
On name origins, what about from the French "Garder" -- to keep, and "voir" -- to see?<br>     
On name origins, what about from the French "Garder" -- to keep, and "voir" -- to see?<br>     
--Slim {{unsigned|Slim}}
--Slim {{unsigned|Slim}}
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:It could also be a play on the Valkyrie Geiravör (spear+vigilant) --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 18:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:It could also be a play on the Valkyrie Geiravör (spear+vigilant) --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 18:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


==Red fins==
Could someone please help me! What does it mean when it says "and the red fins it had as Ralts/Kirlia are now gone." Does it mean the red things? On there head? But, Gardevoir still has them! I'm confused.{{unsigned|Gardevoir}}
Could someone please help me! What does it mean when it says "and the red fins it had as Ralts/Kirlia are now gone." Does it mean the red things? On there head? But, Gardevoir still has them! I'm confused.{{unsigned|Gardevoir}}
:I assume it means those on the head... Sure, Gardevoir's and Gallade's are on their chests now... but Ralts and Kirlia have them on their heads, which is the point. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 23:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:I assume it means those on the head... Sure, Gardevoir's and Gallade's are on their chests now... but Ralts and Kirlia have them on their heads, which is the point. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 23:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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Yes, theres a much better understanding of what it means now. --Gardevoir {{unsigned|Gardevoir}}
Yes, theres a much better understanding of what it means now. --Gardevoir {{unsigned|Gardevoir}}


==Alakazam==
was gardevoir ever speculated as a counterpart to Alakazam ?? {{unsigned|Palkie}}
was gardevoir ever speculated as a counterpart to Alakazam ?? {{unsigned|Palkie}}
:Not... really. Sure, it's kind of a Hoenn counterpart, but Alakazam's there anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 23:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Not... really. Sure, it's kind of a Hoenn counterpart, but Alakazam's there anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 23:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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:::It's red on my display. Perhaps there is an issue with your monitor? I assure you the picture on the page is the official art and Gardevoir's fins and eyes are quite red.  [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 06:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
:::It's red on my display. Perhaps there is an issue with your monitor? I assure you the picture on the page is the official art and Gardevoir's fins and eyes are quite red.  [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 06:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
::::oh yeah.. I switched to another device and it's red.. .It's still kind of odd though that it could appear black on some device. again,sorry for the trouble.[[User:Fiky f|Fiky f]] ([[User talk:Fiky f|talk]]) 11:43, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
::::oh yeah.. I switched to another device and it's red.. .It's still kind of odd though that it could appear black on some device. again,sorry for the trouble.[[User:Fiky f|Fiky f]] ([[User talk:Fiky f|talk]]) 11:43, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
== Japanese romanization ==
I observed that the romanization of the japanese name has been changed following the Pokken Tournament news, and since there were two versions of the romanized name (Sirnight and Surnight) in two different pictures of the same article, I decided to add both of them. However, my edit was undid because Surnight "isn't official". How can it be determined which one is the "official" one? --[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] ([[User talk:Caciulacdlac|talk]]) 23:00, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
:Could you show me the pictures (or links)? --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 14:14, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
::Caciulacdlac [[User talk:Caciulacdlac#Surknight|was referring to]] a [[a:File:Pokkén Bana Passports.jpg|Bulbanews image]]. I believe it was some sort of error, though: see the [http://pokkentournament.jp/#2 current Pokken site]/[http://pokkentournament.jp/img/news/entry02.png image], and "[http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m129962710#enlargeimg in the wild]". I can't trace the Bulbanews image to an official site (perhaps it was updated precisely because of that error). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
:::The Bulbanews image came from [http://www.famitsu.com/news/201501/23070067.html here] (although this image also appeared during the NicoNico livestream). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:04, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
== Hoenn Dex Number in Gen 3 vs. Hoenn Dex Number in OR/AS. ==
I added some Trivia that explains that Gardevoir is the last Pokémon in the Hoenn PokéDex to have the same number in both versions of that Regional Dex, but it got removed for being "too complicated".
How do I say it without making it sound as so? [[User:SquirtleLover1999|SquirtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:SquirtleLover1999|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2017 (UTC)SquirtleLover1999
:Probably best to stop worrying about it. Trying to continually reword trivia to shoehorn it into an acceptable state is usually a waste of time; if it's not notable with one phrasing, it's probably not gonna be notable with any other phrasing, either. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:24, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
::Okay, but I forgot to mention that I added that whole thing because Yanma has Trivia of a similar topic on it, so I decided to do the same with Gardevoir. [[User:SquirtleLover1999|SquirtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:SquirtleLover1999|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2017 (UTC)SquirtleLover1999
== Mega Gardevoir Image ==
Why was it reverted to a lower quality version? [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 06:19, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 06:19, 24 July 2018

Name origins

On name origins, what about from the French "Garder" -- to keep, and "voir" -- to see?
--Slim - unsigned comment from Slim (talkcontribs)

It certainly sounds French in the anime dub. --FabuVinny 11:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
It could also be a play on the Valkyrie Geiravör (spear+vigilant) --Deuxhero 18:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Red fins

Could someone please help me! What does it mean when it says "and the red fins it had as Ralts/Kirlia are now gone." Does it mean the red things? On there head? But, Gardevoir still has them! I'm confused.- unsigned comment from Gardevoir (talkcontribs)

I assume it means those on the head... Sure, Gardevoir's and Gallade's are on their chests now... but Ralts and Kirlia have them on their heads, which is the point. --TTEchidna 23:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I still don't get why they call them "Fins". I don't think there fins. ~Gardevoir - unsigned comment from Gardevoir (talkcontribs)

More "fin-like" then "fins", to be exact. I think I was one who referred to them as Fins... if you can think of a more accurate word for it (maybe "fin-like ridges"?), then by all means, replace it. -- Jioruji Derako.> 02:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll probably do that. Thank you for you're help. - unsigned comment from Gardevoir (talkcontribs)
Right on. Looks just great now. -- Jioruji Derako.> 21:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, theres a much better understanding of what it means now. --Gardevoir - unsigned comment from Gardevoir (talkcontribs)

Alakazam

was gardevoir ever speculated as a counterpart to Alakazam ?? - unsigned comment from Palkie (talkcontribs)

Not... really. Sure, it's kind of a Hoenn counterpart, but Alakazam's there anyway. TTEchidna 23:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Gardevoir's attacking pose

There's something I've noticed about Gardevoir in Pokémon Colosseum/XD/Battle Revolution for quite a while. Whenever Gardevoir attacks, it looks to me as if Gardevoir's holding its arms in a cross formation. It's as if Gardevoir summon power from God to strike their foes or something. Can I make a note of that in the Trivia section?--Pokencyclopedia 05:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Mmmmmh... I'm thinking... that's too fanony. TTEchidna 05:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
It looks more like some sort of unusual dance move to me. That might actually make more sense, since nearly all of Kirlia's animations (even its KO'd animation!) look like dance movements (which makes it hard for me to understand why Miror. B never uses one....). Diachronos 18:02, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Gardevoir - Hypnosis

I noticed that my Gardevoir in Gen IV learned Hypnosis at 60, not 63 like the page says. Was that a typo? Or did I do something to learn moves faster..? ~Desu - unsigned comment from DesuMaiWaifu (talkcontribs)

Nope. It was apparently wrong. Fixing. TTEchidna 06:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Cool, glad I could help. ~Desu - unsigned comment from DesuMaiWaifu (talkcontribs)

Gender ratio

This might be a silly question, but since I created a new account for this soul purpose, I'll ask it anyway: Given the fact that this Pokemon can only evolve from female Kirilia, shouldn't its gender ratio be 100% female? WellyDawn 23:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, male Kirlia can evolve into Gardevoir too. It's just that female Kirlia can only evolve into Gardevoir. —darklordtrom 23:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Even i am a fan of her(i always treat them as female),i know theyre 50/50 gender.See Snorunt's evolutions,theyre just reversed. --Gillstar34 09:38, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Generation V Event Move?

I was looking at the moves Gardevoir can learn and noticed Hypnosis was in the Event Moves section for Gardevoir even though it learns it naturally. Aside from gaining the move 15 levels early, I don't understand why it is an event move in this case. Frozen Fennec 03:41, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Good catch, I've removed it, just hope I'm not mistaken too. --Spriteit (talk) 14:29, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Type

Someone change its type to Psychic/Fairy. ★~Darklight~★ 15:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC) 15:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC) 15:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

That's good! Add it! ~☆I'm TheShinyMew!☆~ 15:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Guys and girls, we are updating pages as we can, this has just been announced. We aren't super computers, and no, we won't unprotect the pages for user help currently as not all the supporting templates have not been updated to allow them to display correctly as of yet. --Spriteit (talk) 15:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


It says prior to Generation IV (4) it was a pure Psychic type. This error is also on Marill and Jigglypuff pages. It should be VI (6) Zond (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Notable?

[|In the demo] of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Gardevoir was an assist trophy instead of a Pokémon coming from a Poké Ball. Would this be worth noting in the Super Smash Bros. Brawl segment of the article? Frozen Fennec 02:09, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Can a staff member add the BW118 Pokédex entry, I have it already finished below.

Episode Pokémon Source Entry
BW118 Gardevoir Ash's Pokédex Gardevoir, the Embrace Pokémon. If Gardevoir's trainer needs protecting, Gardevoir creates a small black hole by using all of its psychic power.

cheers Yamitora1 (talk) 14:28, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Added. --Pokemaster97 15:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
thank you Yamitora1 (talk) 16:35, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

BW122

Could a staff member kindly add the dub title of BW122: What Lies Beyond Truth and Ideals, to the anime section? Thank you! ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 17:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Just a thought

Maybe we can add spill casters to there possible inspiration? They seam to were robes or gowns, they are the types that analog magic, and they have stats like a spill casterRandom Chaos (talk) 00:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)♥

You mean a spellcaster? I suppose that's sort of plausible, though equating Special Attack with magic is a bit assumptive and might get reverted as speculation/fanon. Please work on your spelling and grammar, though. You're barely comprehensible. (I still can't figure out what you mean by "analog magic".) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:45, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

Could a staff member kindly add the title of BW125, Cilan and the Case of the Purrloin Witness! to the anime section? Thanks! ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 14:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Done. --Pokemaster97 16:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Unnecessary Trivia

Despite its human-like appearance, it isn't in the Human-Like Egg Group.

Could this trivia point be removed? I don't have editing permission so I can't remove it myself. This piece of trivia seems dangerously close to the "Despite its Pokédex entries mentioning this Pokémon has... (ability), it cannot learn (move)/have (ability)." trivia which isn't allowed on pages, also several Pokémon are human-like yet aren't in the Human-Like group (such as Gallade, Mawile etc.) so this trivia piece is irrelevant. --Reliジーランス? 09:55, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I dissagre, it should be put back because it is good triva. For gallade, you can put the same thing and mawile is not that much human-like. can someone back me up. FOR GARDEVOIR. HoennRemake (talk) 17:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Nope. I already won. Trivia point can't be added back in.-The Truth aka Relicant 18:08, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Type Matchup Chart

Should Gardevoir have 2 Type effectiveness charts: One for Gen VI and one prior to Gen VI? - unsigned comment from Dark Rust (talkcontribs)

Nope. Our current one is fine. It has parameters to mark the changes that were made. Someone just needs to update it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 12:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Mega Gardevoir = Fairy Princess?

Could Mga Gardevoir's design be based on the idea of a fairy princess? It's a Faory type and is wearing what looks like a princess gown Vienna Waltz (talk) 15:48, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Gardevoir itself looks more like a bishonen (guy with feminine features, common in anime, manga etc.) of the magical knight variety than a fairy princess, so no. --The Truth aka Relicant 15:59, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Mega Evolution/Branch Evolution Trivia

I would think that it is worth noting in the Trivia section that Gardevoir is the only Pokémon capable of Mega Evolving that is also part of a branched evolution tree. - unsigned comment from MutantGerbil00 (talkcontribs)

Anime Debut

It says that Gardevoir made its debut anime appearance in AG109, but wouldn't its appearance in Destiny Deoxys count as an anime appearance? And that's not a rhetorical question; I actually want to know. Mangaman13 (talk) 21:57, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Lower body

The biology section's comment on Gardevoir's lower body seems to imply that it doesn't have legs. However, Pokédex 3D Pro shows that this is obviously not the case. Mangaman13 (talk) 22:06, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

"It has long, slender, white legs underneath the gown, and green hair that curls down the sides of its head."--Cold (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Well, that's embarrassing.Mangaman13 (talk) 17:05, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


Added origin content

The page says that Gardevoir seems to be based off of a ballroom dancer. I would like to argue that Gardevoir, like Kirlia, is based off of a principle ballet dancer. If you look at Gardevoir's legs in 3D models, you can see that they ended in a tapered point. This suggested that Gardevoir--again like Kirlia--is raised 'en pointe' in their stance. Gardevoir's 'dress' is very similar to the dresses that the older and more traditional ballet dancers wore back in the 1800's. This style of dress is still seen today in The Nutcracker, Swan Lake, and many lyrical dances. Gardevoir's shoulders are also noticeably lowered; a technical aspect that is drilled into all ballet dancers very early on. Noah★ (talk) 03:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

  • Wait, wasn't Gardevoir also supposed to have been based off of a magical knight in a way? ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 22:30, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
seeing as Gardevoir's japanese name is Sirknight, addin in that its possibly based on a knight mage/magical knoght makes sense. --The Truth aka Relicant 23:25, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

Can I point out that at level 17 the move learnt is 'lucky chant', not 'wish' as stated. - unsigned comment from Cidare (talkcontribs)

Although Ralts and Kirlia learn the move at that level, this is the page for Gardevoir, where (if it was possible), at level 17 Gardevoir would learn Wish. --Abcboy (talk) 04:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

the main picture?

Okay,I don't know what that picture is normally called,but in that picture,gardevoir's fin/horn thingy and eyes are black,instead of red.. Shouldn't it be replaced with more correct one? Fiky f (talk) 22:16, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. I'm not sure what you're seeing. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:37, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
I don't know,it's just that it has always been depicted with the color red,and the top picture has its eye and fin colored black/grey... Right? I actually asked people to see what color it is to make sure I'm not colorblind.. I'm sorry if I'm being troublesome.Fiky f (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
It's red on my display. Perhaps there is an issue with your monitor? I assure you the picture on the page is the official art and Gardevoir's fins and eyes are quite red. Crystal Talian 06:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
oh yeah.. I switched to another device and it's red.. .It's still kind of odd though that it could appear black on some device. again,sorry for the trouble.Fiky f (talk) 11:43, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Japanese romanization

I observed that the romanization of the japanese name has been changed following the Pokken Tournament news, and since there were two versions of the romanized name (Sirnight and Surnight) in two different pictures of the same article, I decided to add both of them. However, my edit was undid because Surnight "isn't official". How can it be determined which one is the "official" one? --Caciulacdlac (talk) 23:00, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Could you show me the pictures (or links)? --Yen01 (talk) 14:14, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Caciulacdlac was referring to a Bulbanews image. I believe it was some sort of error, though: see the current Pokken site/image, and "in the wild". I can't trace the Bulbanews image to an official site (perhaps it was updated precisely because of that error). Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:16, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
The Bulbanews image came from here (although this image also appeared during the NicoNico livestream). --SnorlaxMonster 18:04, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Hoenn Dex Number in Gen 3 vs. Hoenn Dex Number in OR/AS.

I added some Trivia that explains that Gardevoir is the last Pokémon in the Hoenn PokéDex to have the same number in both versions of that Regional Dex, but it got removed for being "too complicated". How do I say it without making it sound as so? SquirtleLover1999 (talk) 06:39, 21 October 2017 (UTC)SquirtleLover1999

Probably best to stop worrying about it. Trying to continually reword trivia to shoehorn it into an acceptable state is usually a waste of time; if it's not notable with one phrasing, it's probably not gonna be notable with any other phrasing, either. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:24, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Okay, but I forgot to mention that I added that whole thing because Yanma has Trivia of a similar topic on it, so I decided to do the same with Gardevoir. SquirtleLover1999 (talk) 06:39, 21 October 2017 (UTC)SquirtleLover1999

Mega Gardevoir Image

Why was it reverted to a lower quality version? ArtistKyurem (talk) 06:19, 24 July 2018 (UTC)