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If someone could get the maps themselves from the gates in Platinum, HGSS and BW, I'd be very thankful. The maps of the regular gates and of the second floor of two-storey gates from Generation I are also needed. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 19:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | If someone could get the maps themselves from the gates in Platinum, HGSS and BW, I'd be very thankful. The maps of the regular gates and of the second floor of two-storey gates from Generation I are also needed. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 19:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Spelling of "story" and gates being already called as such since Generation I == | |||
About the spelling of "story"/"storey"... | |||
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/story--2 | |||
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/story | |||
I have Oxford Dictionaries claiming that "storey" is British English while Merriam-Webster does not mention "storey" as a British English spelling but rather an alternative. | |||
As to gates being called as such since Generation I, I didn't add it in if I wasn't right. The last {{tc|Lass}} counting from above in the row of four Trainers as well as the {{tc|Super Nerd}} that's included in it on {{rt|8|Kanto}} mention the gates to Saffron City. | |||
===Super Nerd=== | |||
;Japanese | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|たまには そとの くうき すいに|Tamani wa soto no kūki sui ni}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|いこうと おもったのに|ikō to omatta no ni}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|ヤマブキの ゲートの せいで|Yamabuki no gēto no sei de}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|みんな ここで あしどめだ|Minna koko de ashidome da}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
;English | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|We're stuck here}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|because of the}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|gates at SAFFRON.}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
===Lass=== | |||
;Japanese | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|ヤマブキ シティの けいびいん|Yamabuki Shiti no keibīn}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|ゲート とおらせて くれないの|gēto tōrase te kurenai no}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|まじめ だけど⋯⋯ いじわるね|Majime dakedo... ijiwaru ne}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
;English | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|SAFFRON's gate}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|keeper won't let}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|us through.}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|He's so mean!}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
The word "gate" is also used at the [[Indigo Plateau|Pokémon League]]'s entrance at {{rt|22|Kanto}} and to the entrance of [[Victory Road (Kanto)|Victory Road]]. | |||
===Pokémon League's entrance=== | |||
;Japanese | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|ここは ポケモン リーグ|Koko wa Pokémon Rīgu}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|しょうめん ゲート|shōmen gēto}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
;English | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|POKéMON LEAGUE}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|Front Gate}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
===Victory Road's entrance=== | |||
;Japanese | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|ここは チャンピオン ロード|Koko wa Chanpion Rōdo}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|{{tt|ゲート ⋯⋯ ポケモンリーグ|gēto ... Pokémon Rīgu}}}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
;English | |||
{{sign|RBY|header}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|VICTORY ROAD GATE}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|- POKéMON LEAGUE}} | |||
{{sign|RBY|footer}} | |||
So now if you excuse me, I'll undo the revert to my edit to the trivia section. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 12:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Alright then, this should easily be enough proof to say that they were called Gates in Generation I. (Currently, I am wondering why they were called "Lookout stations" until April of last year if this was in Gen I.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Technical gates == | |||
Would technical gates such as the [[Ravaged Path]], [[Oreburgh Gate]], [[Mt. Moon]], and several other caves be considered gates? Even though Jubilfe is a big city, to the west is a gate, to the north is Ravaged Path, to the east is Oreburgh Gate, and to the south is no gate at all. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 16:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:In my opinion, no, because gates as we classify them are man-made buildings whereas caves are naturally built. Even though they technically share the function of serving as junctions between two different locations, '''caves are ''not'' gates'''. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 17:45, 14 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::How about a minor mention in the Practical use section? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't think so. The locations mentioned above are natural landmarks and while they do connect locations, they shouldn't be considered gates. I think the cave like areas are closer to routes than gates IMO. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 20:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Ah, okay then. Sorry for bringing this up. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:48, 14 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::Feel free to continue discussing if you would like to. I was just giving my two cents :p '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 20:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::Is [[Pokémon League Reception Gate|this]] a gate? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::How about the gates connecting [[Hearthome City]] and [[Amity Square]]? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Technically yes, so they should be added in, along a few others. | |||
::::::::Abcboy, why did you change the table for the Sevii Islands gates? [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 14:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::More information. Each gate is the port to a separate island (e.g. One Island's port is '''on''' [[Knot Island]]) so I thought it would be somewhat useful. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:47, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::But for six of the nine islands, the ports are on the towns, which are '''on''' the islands, while one is on a route. The gates themselves don't connect areas. The best way is to refer to the islands in which the towns (and their related gates) are located within brackets. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 21:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Gate Location == | |||
Should we make a column on here the gates are? Like which gate is considered part of which location. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Seems to be a good idea. I personally have nothing against it. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 20:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== BW2 Version-exclusive Gates == | |||
So, I've looked through the article and noticed something interesting. Although it says changing the city to White Forest in Black 2 changes the gate name (or vice-versa), it actually doesn't. I can't really say it applies to White 2, but I am for certain BOTH gates at Route 14 and 15 kept their respective color names. Should this be changed? --[[User:Darkrer|Darkrer]] ([[User talk:Darkrer|talk]]) 01:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:If that's the case, then I have corrected the table based on your feedback. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 20:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== The Generation I-III missing gates. == | |||
Can someone list all missing? Because the incomplete template is slightly confusing and I am not sure about some gates (vertical gates? SAFFRON CITY). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:21, 17 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Mom == | |||
:Virbank Gate, and... Gates are pretty much the same anywhere, wouldn't you say? | |||
:A Bridge Gate? All of the gates connected to bridges in the Unova Region are...all...called...Bridge Gates! | |||
:Nacrene Gate is a very gate-y gate! Unless you're super obsessed with gates, you can't really tell the difference, though. | |||
:Accumula Gate is, um, well... Ummm... Does anything make it different from any other gate? | |||
All these quotes are said by the player's mom. They're quite funny. The fact that they made it different for each gate shows how undifferent each gate is! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Nacrene Gate == | |||
Should it be mentioned that inside the Nacrene Gate in B2W2, a Pokèmon Breeder gives the player a Happiny egg? --[[User:AngelicEspeon|AngelicEspeon]] ([[User talk:AngelicEspeon|talk]]) 23:22, 25 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
:I added it, but you could've done that as well. It's a wiki. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:19, 26 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Pokémon Adventures Diamond/Pearl inconsistency == | |||
In the section [[Gate#In the Pokémon Adventures manga|In the Pokémon Adventures manga]], on the second paragraph, it says that: | |||
<blockquote> | |||
In ''[[PS406|Halting Honchkrow]]'', {{adv|Pearl}}, on his way to [[Veilstone City]] to save {{p|Azelf}} from the [[Team Galactic HQ]], faced a heavily guarded gate leading from {{rt|214|Sinnoh}} to Veilstone City. Thankfully, with the help of the {{p|Unown}} he and {{adv|Pearl}} had befriended earlier at the [[Solaceon Ruins]], Diamond was able to break through the masses of {{tc|Galactic Grunt}}s blocking the gate and enter the city. | |||
</blockquote> | |||
However, it says that Diamond and Pearl were both involved in this. In this time frame in Pokémon Adventures, Pearl was on his way to Lake Valor, and Diamond was on his way to Lake Verity, so I feel pretty confident that I can change that last "Diamond" to "Pearl". However, I wanted to ask the other editors first: is it okay? | |||
Thanks in advance, | |||
''<span style="color:#400000">[[Ben|User:Ben79487]]</span><span style="color:#000040">[[User talk:Ben79487]]</span>'' 02:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
'''Note:''' Sorry about that glitchy signature. I'm a little bit rusty. ''[[User:Ben79487|<span style="color:#400000">Ben</span>]][[User talk:Ben79487|<span style="color:#000040">79487</span>]]'' 02:31, 12 September 2019 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 07:00, 12 July 2020
Pictures of a Generation II lookout station
Can someone please upload pictures of a Generation II guardhouse from both Johto and Kanto? Thank You much --Dialgafan1 00:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
Officer
I think the name "Officer" is out of place, as it refers to the Trainer Class. Those are simply "gate guards". And also, I think it should be moved to "Gatehouse". The name "lookout station" is neither official nor popular in fandom. --Maxim 16:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- (Apologies for replying to a comment this old, but since this has somewhat of a relevance...)
- Actually, I believe this should be moved to Gate, as from what I'm able to tell, that's the official term for these places, as Generation V has apparently introduced to us. Not only do some people within them call them gates, but if one were to bring up the save screen in one (or hatch an egg inside one and bring up the Pokémon's status), the area name will show up as "<something> Gate" (as opposed to one of the connecting areas as was the case in previous generations); examples include "Bridge Gate" for ones surrounding the bridges, "Opelucid Gate" for ones surrounding Opelucid City (similar naming applies for those around other cities/towns and, based on "Black Gate" near Black City, I suspect "White Gate" for White Forest as well), and even "Route Gate" for the one between Routes 1 and 17. (These are only examples; this is not the complete list of Unova gate names.) These location names apparently solidifies the case for "Gate" being the official term.
- Besides, as far as I can tell, "lookout station" wasn't even a popular fanon term; "guardhouse" and "gatehouse" were far more popular fanon terms. ****, only select few gates in Kanto (and even then only in Generations I and III) and no gates in any other country besides Kanto even had equipment that would qualify for the term "lookout station". --Shiningpikablu252 04:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
"edit" near Practical Use
The place where it says "edit" for the Practical Use section is located halfway down the paragraph. I do not know why this is, or how this is, or how to fix it. I have refreshed the page several times, so I don't think it just loaded funny. Someone needs to look into it. Perhaps it has something to do with the pictures?--Lamb(talk) 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Pokemon Pearl/Diamond gate?
Will someone please put a picture of a gate from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl onto this page? This is just a suggestion. I am a talking Scrafty! You can talk to me, and I can reply! 19:31, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
- Done that. Also, in reference to the first section above, since nobody seems to have uploaded a Generation II gate yet, I'll do so, for the Johto gate first, at least. Kanto will have to wait, if it turns out to be different from the Johto gates. Haxorus 03:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Direction variants
Should the article also have the vertical gates? If so, I can get the ones from Generations II and III. SatoMew 19:12, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Generation I, Platinum, HGSS and BW gates
If someone could get the maps themselves from the gates in Platinum, HGSS and BW, I'd be very thankful. The maps of the regular gates and of the second floor of two-storey gates from Generation I are also needed. SatoMew 19:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Spelling of "story" and gates being already called as such since Generation I
About the spelling of "story"/"storey"...
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/story--2 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/story I have Oxford Dictionaries claiming that "storey" is British English while Merriam-Webster does not mention "storey" as a British English spelling but rather an alternative.
As to gates being called as such since Generation I, I didn't add it in if I wasn't right. The last Lass counting from above in the row of four Trainers as well as the Super Nerd that's included in it on Route 8 mention the gates to Saffron City.
Super Nerd
- Japanese
たまには そとの くうき すいに
いこうと おもったのに
ヤマブキの ゲートの せいで
みんな ここで あしどめだ
- English
We're stuck here
because of the
gates at SAFFRON.
Lass
- Japanese
ヤマブキ シティの けいびいん
ゲート とおらせて くれないの
まじめ だけど⋯⋯ いじわるね
- English
SAFFRON's gate
keeper won't let
us through.
He's so mean!
The word "gate" is also used at the Pokémon League's entrance at Route 22 and to the entrance of Victory Road.
Pokémon League's entrance
- Japanese
ここは ポケモン リーグ
しょうめん ゲート
- English
POKéMON LEAGUE
Front Gate
Victory Road's entrance
- Japanese
ここは チャンピオン ロード
ゲート ⋯⋯ ポケモンリーグ
- English
VICTORY ROAD GATE
- POKéMON LEAGUE
So now if you excuse me, I'll undo the revert to my edit to the trivia section. SatoMew 12:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Alright then, this should easily be enough proof to say that they were called Gates in Generation I. (Currently, I am wondering why they were called "Lookout stations" until April of last year if this was in Gen I.) --Super goku (talk) 17:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Technical gates
Would technical gates such as the Ravaged Path, Oreburgh Gate, Mt. Moon, and several other caves be considered gates? Even though Jubilfe is a big city, to the west is a gate, to the north is Ravaged Path, to the east is Oreburgh Gate, and to the south is no gate at all. --Abcboy (talk) 16:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- In my opinion, no, because gates as we classify them are man-made buildings whereas caves are naturally built. Even though they technically share the function of serving as junctions between two different locations, caves are not gates. SatoMew 17:45, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- How about a minor mention in the Practical use section? --Abcboy (talk) 20:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The locations mentioned above are natural landmarks and while they do connect locations, they shouldn't be considered gates. I think the cave like areas are closer to routes than gates IMO. --Pokemaster97 20:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, okay then. Sorry for bringing this up. --Abcboy (talk) 20:48, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Feel free to continue discussing if you would like to. I was just giving my two cents :p --Pokemaster97 20:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Is this a gate? --Abcboy (talk) 01:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- How about the gates connecting Hearthome City and Amity Square? --Abcboy (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Technically yes, so they should be added in, along a few others.
- Abcboy, why did you change the table for the Sevii Islands gates? SatoMew 14:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- More information. Each gate is the port to a separate island (e.g. One Island's port is on Knot Island) so I thought it would be somewhat useful. --Abcboy (talk) 20:47, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- But for six of the nine islands, the ports are on the towns, which are on the islands, while one is on a route. The gates themselves don't connect areas. The best way is to refer to the islands in which the towns (and their related gates) are located within brackets. SatoMew 21:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- More information. Each gate is the port to a separate island (e.g. One Island's port is on Knot Island) so I thought it would be somewhat useful. --Abcboy (talk) 20:47, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- How about the gates connecting Hearthome City and Amity Square? --Abcboy (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Is this a gate? --Abcboy (talk) 01:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Feel free to continue discussing if you would like to. I was just giving my two cents :p --Pokemaster97 20:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, okay then. Sorry for bringing this up. --Abcboy (talk) 20:48, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The locations mentioned above are natural landmarks and while they do connect locations, they shouldn't be considered gates. I think the cave like areas are closer to routes than gates IMO. --Pokemaster97 20:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- How about a minor mention in the Practical use section? --Abcboy (talk) 20:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Gate Location
Should we make a column on here the gates are? Like which gate is considered part of which location. --Abcboy (talk) 01:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
BW2 Version-exclusive Gates
So, I've looked through the article and noticed something interesting. Although it says changing the city to White Forest in Black 2 changes the gate name (or vice-versa), it actually doesn't. I can't really say it applies to White 2, but I am for certain BOTH gates at Route 14 and 15 kept their respective color names. Should this be changed? --Darkrer (talk) 01:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then I have corrected the table based on your feedback. SatoMew 20:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
The Generation I-III missing gates.
Can someone list all missing? Because the incomplete template is slightly confusing and I am not sure about some gates (vertical gates? SAFFRON CITY). Marked +-+-+ (talk) 12:21, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Mom
- Virbank Gate, and... Gates are pretty much the same anywhere, wouldn't you say?
- A Bridge Gate? All of the gates connected to bridges in the Unova Region are...all...called...Bridge Gates!
- Nacrene Gate is a very gate-y gate! Unless you're super obsessed with gates, you can't really tell the difference, though.
- Accumula Gate is, um, well... Ummm... Does anything make it different from any other gate?
All these quotes are said by the player's mom. They're quite funny. The fact that they made it different for each gate shows how undifferent each gate is! --Abcboy (talk) 19:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Nacrene Gate
Should it be mentioned that inside the Nacrene Gate in B2W2, a Pokèmon Breeder gives the player a Happiny egg? --AngelicEspeon (talk) 23:22, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- I added it, but you could've done that as well. It's a wiki. Nescientist (talk) 15:19, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Pokémon Adventures Diamond/Pearl inconsistency
In the section In the Pokémon Adventures manga, on the second paragraph, it says that:
In Halting Honchkrow, Pearl, on his way to Veilstone City to save Azelf from the Team Galactic HQ, faced a heavily guarded gate leading from Route 214 to Veilstone City. Thankfully, with the help of the Unown he and Pearl had befriended earlier at the Solaceon Ruins, Diamond was able to break through the masses of Galactic Grunts blocking the gate and enter the city.
However, it says that Diamond and Pearl were both involved in this. In this time frame in Pokémon Adventures, Pearl was on his way to Lake Valor, and Diamond was on his way to Lake Verity, so I feel pretty confident that I can change that last "Diamond" to "Pearl". However, I wanted to ask the other editors first: is it okay?
Thanks in advance, User:Ben79487User talk:Ben79487 02:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Note: Sorry about that glitchy signature. I'm a little bit rusty. Ben79487 02:31, 12 September 2019 (UTC)