Talk:Contest condition

Name

Yeah, I think it's "condition".

Yeah. Pretty sure on that one.

Maybe we ought move all five of the Contest types to X Condition or X (condition). Just sayin'. TTEchidna 08:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

We could probably even move them to just X. Cool and Cute share their names with Musical categories, but those just redirect to their current pages anyway, with redirect notes (not to mention how minor Musical categories are). --SnorlaxMonster 08:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Seems I somehow missed Beauty. I guess "Beauty (condition)" would be a good idea. --SnorlaxMonster 09:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I think just "Condition" would work. In the games they just mention "condition", but if you think people will be confused with the weather conditions, so "Contest condition" will be better. --Mikuri 23:37, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Error?

According to the Smart Contest article, it's easy raise the Smart condition in Pokémon with natures that boost Special Depfense (Calm, Gentle, Sassy, and Careful), however, this article says that is hard raise Smart condition in Calm Pokémon. --Mikuri 14:47, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. --SnorlaxMonster 13:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Missing some table lines?

The table "Contest categories" is missing a separator line between "Flavor" and "Color". Was this done on purpose or it's just me? The table for "Nature" is also missing a line between "Hardy" and "Lonely". If it is needed to be fixed, please help because I can't understand to make tables yet. ^^; Thank you. Oh and I agree on changing it to "contest condition"; the Pokéblock section uses "condition". --Totodilette (talk) 03:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't see the issue you mention, and there is no difference in the code that would make one divider appear and another not. --SnorlaxMonster 03:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I think it's already fixed just now. Thanks again. :) --Totodilette (talk) 04:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Luster?

"Luster" pops up on pages like Pokéblocks and Pokémon Contests. This is something that should be explained on this page, I think. I'd be happy enough to do it myself, but I don't even know where "luster" comes from, so I'm not really sure that it's the right word or what the right word would be, nor can I check what the games say about it (at most, I'm pretty sure it's got to do with Feel, but that's a far cry from a solid understanding). Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:08, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Luster seems like a fan made term, according to the feel page - it should probably be changed to Feel. And therefore as it makes it the total condition of a Pokémon, it makes sense as the judging section includes a proportion of "lustre", attribute conditions and held items. Xolotl (talk) 00:30, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Contest Stats maintained

I noticed that when transferring Pokemon to ORAS, Pokemon still have any modifications to their contest condition that was made in RSE or DPPt. Should this be mentioned on the page, possibly in a Trivia section? ShermTank7272 (talk) 17:28, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

That's just because there's contest stats internally in Generation V. You can technically still evolve Feebas the old way in Gen V by transferring a max beauty Feebas to Gen V and levelling it up. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Move

Can we please move this? It's always referred to as just "condition" in the games. Besides, it's not like we have "Pokéathlon performance". --Mikuri 22:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Calling it "Condition" could get it confused with status conditions. Litwick96 (talk) 22:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Nothing a note at the top of the page can't fix. We could use Template:Samename. --Mikuri 23:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Very true, that would most likely solve any confusion. Perhaps moving it would be a good idea. Litwick96 (talk) 17:54, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Not really sure if this means anything when the move nomination has already been rejected years ago, but I do agree (to what also appears to be consensus here btw). The reason given at that time ("With status conditions and Special Conditions, Contests shouldn't overtake the general title") would indicate (to me) that the page title "condition" should not redirect here, but in fact it does (and always did).

I also have an argument that I believe hasn't been brought up before, namely that the individual conditions' pages are in the form "Cool (condition)", not "Cool (contest condition)".

So, is it possible (for me or for staff) to re-open this move discussion? Nescientist (talk) 22:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Contest conditions in Join Avenue

There's an NPC in Join Avenue that is asking about people's "Charming feature". She lists: "Coolness", "Beauty", "Cuteness", "Cleverness", and "Toughness". It seems like an allusion to the contest conditions and seems to be the first time the "Smart" is referred to "Cleverness" before ORAS, but not the first time used in the context of a contest. Argentarus (talk) 21:40, 28 April 2019 (UTC)