Talk:Ash's Larvitar

The Whole Weight Issue

I never thought about that until just now. Interesting point! =] → User:Thomas1652

Ok, About Larvitar and Ash...

Ok, guys, I am very sorry if I am beating on a dead horse, but I still don't really understand how Larvitar isn't considered Ash's Pokemon.

I mean, sure, It wasn't caught in a Poké ball (which many people use as the trump card in regards to capture despite several flaws in it.), but, then again, Misty's Togepi was never placed in a Poké ball either, and that never stopped people from calling it Misty's Pokemon despite the fact that it technically wasn't caught in a Poké ball.

Also, there is the whole thing about Ash having to return it to it's habitat and Mom, But then again, look at Lapras. That pokemon was ALSO supposed to be delivered back to it's family (Didn't Ash say to it that he would return it to it's family as soon as he finds them when he captured it?), and that is STILL counted as Ash's Pokémon (or at least enough to be part of the released section.) despite that.

And besides which, just because it is caught in a trainer's Poké ball doesn't mean that it is that trainer's pokemon, I mean, look at Brock's Vulpix (though this may be a bad example), or even Ash's Lapras, to a certain extent.

Besides, it actually participated in a battle at one point, And it was counted as Ash's Pokemon in Spurt, unlike, Oh, say, Haunter.

Now, if it still isn't enough for you, I'll understand.

Anyways, that's all for now.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

Judging from the spurt oppening the makers of pokemon seem to count Larvitar as Ash's but not Haunter.

I agree. Larviter should be listed as one of Ash's pokemon. Misty-may-dawn rulz

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I'm sorry if this isn't the right way to continue the discussion, I haven't interacted on the forums before.

I think if a Pokemon is seen to be caught/owned in a Pokeball, it can definitely count as a Pokemon owned by that person. Ash's Lapras and Brock's Vulpix were definitely theirs respectively for a bit since we saw them being sent out of Pokeballs, even if they were meant to be temporary team members. Misty's Togepi was never seen in a Pokeball, but Misty was keeping it forever which meant it was definitely hers. Larvitar and Nebby don't fill either of these categories. They were both never in Pokeballs AND both temporary, which I feel eliminated them from being actually considered Ash's official Pokemon, only traveled with.

I feel like the reason Haunter wasn't included in Spurt! or the final flashback scene because it spent too short of a time with Ash compared to Nebby and Larvitar

Harden

Did Larvitar really use Harden? Or was it just used to describe how Larvitar was feeling towards other people and Pokemon that Larvitar didn't trust. I ask because it wasn't the typical harden we normally see, all it did was froze up, I don't think it means it used hardened though. --Dman dustin 14:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

1 episodes

Someone should really fix that. _*tc26_* 01:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't really think it's fixable, I think it just happens that way. .
ShinjiLover 08:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Change name of Ash's Larvitar

Ash did never own Larvitar. It was with him when he was taking care of it. He was planing to deliver back to it's mum the whole time. Reguarding the "Ok,about Ash and Larvitar" discusion. Yes Brock's Vulpix should probably be Suzy's Vulpix. MIsty's Togetic is differant, for she intended to keep it for life. Ash didn't go looking for Lapras' family and if they hadn't ran into them in "Viva Las Lapras", it would probably still be with Ash (or in Oak's Lab) today. With Larvitar, however, Ash was taking a detour to take all the way home (with Lapras it was chance they found its family). For that reason I think the page should be called, "Larvitar (Mount Silver)", "Larvitar (anime)", "Tyranitar's Larvitar" or even "Larvitar (Ash)". Just for the record the page called "Jessie's Lickitung" should be "Benny's Lickitung", and and Ash's Squirtle should be Jenny's Squirtle. From RedandGreen1996

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Also, no. 梅子^❄_❅ 23:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ash's Larvitar

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It's called Ash's Larvitar by the way. The trivia is actually referencing to his Larvitar but if you wanted to figure out a way of wording it you could say,"Ash is the only main character in the anime to own two different members of a pseudo-legendary family." or something along those lines. –MasterKenobi 20:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Gonna step in here quick and bring up that I think the reason why Gible is said to be Ash's only pseudo-legendary was because Larvitar was never technically his, he was just temporarily taking care of it or whatnot. Its article is named as such for the sake of simplicity. 梅子^❀_✿ 20:41, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

If that is the case then why does its article call it Ash's? Are we going to need to move the article if it wasn't Ash's? felinoel 03:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

From my previous comment on the matter:

Its article is named as such [ie. "Ash's Larvitar"] for the sake of simplicity

We can't very well call the article "the Larvitar that Ash took care of for about eight episodes but was never technically owned by him" or something. :P 梅子^❀_✿ 15:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

That may be true but it apparently isn't his, the page at least should not have that, Ash's current pokemon thing at the bottom or something felinoel 20:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Basically, it is Elm's Larvitar if it is anyone's at all, this is like stating a package your purchased to be delivered actually belongs to the mailman. felinoel 20:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Egg

It's life in the egg was revealed in the first episode it was in, Ash shared a dream from when he was in the egg, getting kicked and stuff. Gliscorguy54 01:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Move to "Larvitar (anime)"

I am suggesting this page be moved to Larvitar (anime). Ash never technically owned Larvitar at any point that we know of, but the title I am proposing neither confirms nor denies that he ever owned it. This move does not say that Ash never owned Larvitar. It just acknowledges the controversy of it's ownership.--Alex726_(TALK) 03:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

It was in Ash's care and that is enough for me really. I oppose. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 06:58, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I oppose as well, for the same reason Toon Ganondorf gave. Hell, Ash even used it in battle once. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 01:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Oppose. This situation is diffrent from Ash/Sabrina's Haunter. --Pokemaster97 01:48, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

It was given to Ash from Elm to take home so it should stay Ash's. AquaMaster 00:16, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Oppose. As I had stated near the top of the page, Larvitar spent a lot of time being cared for by Ash, it was counted in Spurt, Togepi, in spite of never being supplied with a Pokéball, was still counted as Misty's pokemon, and likewise Vulpix wasn't counted as Brock's Pokémon despite being placed in his ball, and if we're going to claim that its not Ash's since he was to return it to Larvitar's mom anyway, then we might as well state that Ash's Lapras doesn't belong to Ash, either, since he had to return it under similar circumstances. Weedle Mchairybug 00:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

I think it's best to use the same strategy that was used on the Ash/Sabrina's Hunter thing- a poll. But if we chose to do so, as from my previous experience with ownership dispute, we would have to have a few more users invlolved. Satoshi101 04:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. There are twice as many people on this page who believe it should stay as is than who believe it should be moved, and I'm sure, just like Haunter, many would oppose. I don't see the point. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 04:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Harden and Larvitar

I know there is a message about it already but I got in trouble in past for replying to the old messages. I too wonder if it was literally using harden, or if it was just hardening around them. I.e. a baby can harden around people it is unfamiliar with, go shy and retreat into itself. So yeah, was it a literal case of using the movie Harden, or was it an emotional case of hardening? RobbieNewton (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Larvitar was never Ash's

Ash never caught Larvitar at all. I'm not sure if he even commanded it. He was just given the egg to give it back to its mother, Tyranitar. Same situation with Haunter, but it won Ash a Marsh Badge and Sabrina probably caught in a Poké Ball after it decided to stay with her so I'll let it slide. PLMMJ (talk) 16:26, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Welp. He did command it and use it in battle once but I don't think that's enough. PLMMJ (talk) 16:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Larvitar and Haunter are titled with the trainer they are most well known to be owned or commanded by. Another Pokemon in a similar boat is Jessie's Lickitung, it is still titled under its original trainer's name and not its new one.--ForceFire 06:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)