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:I'm not sure what you're referring to. I finished my dex today, so I could potentially answer your question but...I don't understand. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC) | :I'm not sure what you're referring to. I finished my dex today, so I could potentially answer your question but...I don't understand. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
:Edit: Oh. Yup. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC) | :Edit: Oh. Yup. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
::So it is clarified for other people, I'm wondering when the game's Pokédex is updated to indicate Pokémon as having been caught. There are only two/three possibilities for when the actual Dex is updated on the save file (save/exit from Bank, save of XY, or load of XY), but if it is Bank which updates the dex, there are a number of possibilities as to how (see old post for list). The thing is, a couple of the possibilities could result in the game's Dex having Pokémon marked as having been caught, without keeping them on the savefile for a period of time. I think I might link this discussion from the Bank talkpage as well, as it seems to be more related to Bank, or even with Bank and 2 GenVI games. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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:::I've heard Hayley's Phione won't go through either. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | :::I've heard Hayley's Phione won't go through either. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
::::Uh oh, I wonder if that means Hayley's Mew won't work either. Ranch is the only legit in-game way to get an English Mew as of now, and if that's blocked then there's only a couple distributed Mews left for us poor English users.[[User:Shugo|Shugo]] ([[User talk:Shugo|talk]]) 10:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC) | ::::Uh oh, I wonder if that means Hayley's Mew won't work either. Ranch is the only legit in-game way to get an English Mew as of now, and if that's blocked then there's only a couple distributed Mews left for us poor English users.[[User:Shugo|Shugo]] ([[User talk:Shugo|talk]]) 10:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::::Personally, if a handful of event PkMn are being blocked, I believe the issue should be brought up with Ninty/GF. If someone can assemble a list of known problems, Nintendo or GameFreak (I don't know who configures etc. the servers, or if it is a client-side block) can work to fix the problem. I might do a event transfer at some point (using the GenV GTS exploit to send the ones I lost to my W2, since my Black's EEPROM died on me along with most of my prized collection), I'll note other events which don't go through. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 00:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC) (note to self: back up Pt/SS/W2 before those chips die too) | |||
::::::I've been told Hayley's Mew is fine. ALso, should have mentioned this earlier, but it has been widely reported that Shiny Jirachi is prohibited. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
(resetting indent) I can't get any variation of shaymin or arceus to transfer. What I've noticed is that some people's banks seem to differ on what they think is hacked. For example, one of my friends was able to transfer 6IV Dittos to Gen 6, and I had the exact same .pkm file for that ditto, and it didn't pass. Sometimes a .pkm on one game will register as hacked, and if you trade it to another bank passes it. I do agree with TruePikachu though, GF needs to fix this.----[[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Big</span>]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:#870735">Bad</span>]][[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Batter</span>]] 03:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I have a Shaymin transferred, though, let me check which one...[[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 03:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::TRU Shaymin, and realised that Bank might be databasing PIDs so that clones aren't let on. No idea if there is a whitelist for events, someone should confirm. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 03:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::And to think that they're letting Shiny Zekroms and Reshirams through. It would seem odd for them to database PIDs, because there's a fairly narrow spectrum of PIDs for event pokemon if I remember correctly, especially those with invariable natures.----[[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Big</span>]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:#870735">Bad</span>]][[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Batter</span>]] 03:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::Which is why there would be a whitelist for events. But now I'm not so sure they are doing so, someone should probably contact Nintendo. I guess I'll see if I'm able to. I don't expect them to share the details about the algorithm, but they might check it to make sure it is actually working as intended. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 03:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::You're probably trying to send non-fateful encounter Shaymin through, which are always illegitimate and known to be prohibited. I highly doubt the game prevents duplicate PIDs going through, and that there is any difference between people's Pokémon Transporter checks. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::Believe it or not, they actually were fateful-encounter ones. I tried a TRU and an Oblivia Shaymin. Neither worked. It' really weird how some legit pokemon can't pass but some really badly done hacks can pass. As I said before though, some banks pass different things for some strange reason. It really ticks me off. While we're at it though, considering this is a pretty prominent issue, should we add some details to the page about it?----[[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Big</span>]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:#870735">Bad</span>]][[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Batter</span>]] 21:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::::You can in the meantime, but I'm waiting for a response from TPCi or someone. I not only mentioned that some events weren't going through, but I also mentioned a case where a hacked PkMn ''did'' go through (I am not elaborating on this here). I also sent a link to this page, but don't expect them to reply here. However, if they do discover that there was indeed a problem, the edits could become incorrect and be removed later. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 22:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
(resetting indent again) I can confirm that the TRU Mystery Mew (mentioned near the beginning of this comment thread) is indeed blocked. Possibly because its SID is 0. [[User:Rycr|Rycr]] ([[User talk:Rycr|talk]]) 09:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Indeed I can confirm that legitimately obtained (special event) TRU arcues is tansferable. I can also personally confirm the 2006 TRU mew is transferable. I realize people have already confirmed this, but I figure the more confimation from seperate sources is best in this case. [[User:Icestar649|Icestar649]] ([[User talk:Icestar649|talk]]) 13:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Wait so which is it? Mystery Mew blocked or not? I still haven't had the chance to check myself. I do have five legitimate ones actually obtained at the TRU event, currently sitting in my Pokémon Box. (That was fun; I got four friends to wait in line with me.) | |||
::I think what might be going on here is something going wrong with Pokémon obtained via injected PKM. The games keep lots of hidden records, including data on when and how Pokémon are met. Maybe Transporter checks more than just the Pokémon itself; perhaps it checks with the save file to see how that Pokémon arrived in the game. It would make sense of what BigBadBatter said about how his Ditto imported from a PKM file wouldn't work but it did for his friend. It's possible his friend's game created a record of that Ditto arriving "legitimately" through a trade whereas his own game had no such record due to being imported directly. It might also explain why some event Pokémon seem blocked, since those are very commonly imported through hacking. Someone on /vp/ was giving away a TRU Arceus, and he confirmed to me that TRU Arceus is not blocked, contrary to many reports. The reports likely stem from the possible issue I just outlined.[[User:Shugo|Shugo]] ([[User talk:Shugo|talk]]) 07:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::I'm Pokedit's Head Moderater and a .pkm legality specialist, and I can say this, the game keeps no such records. When and how they were met is in the .pkm's memo data, and can be easily edited. I have passed a lot of injected and edited .pkm files, because all the parameters were legal. All the event pokemon I've attempted to get in were completely unedited, and 100% legal (used pokecheck to confirm this, but don't have a link to the .pkm, sorry). I've also recently tested with another friend identical Arceus and Shaymin .pkms. Theirs passed and mine didn't. Remember that really badly hacked pokemon have been able to pass bank, whilst some legit ones can't. I say it's just really bad programming on GF's part. Also Shugo, I am a girl XD----[[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Big</span>]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:#870735">Bad</span>]][[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Batter</span>]] 21:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::I meant the other details that the game apparently keeps regarding Pokémon, unless that's also kept in the PKM. (I don't know much about the PKM format.) I recall there being a guy in Black/White you could talk to who would tell you a bunch of extra details about a Pokémon, like what Pokémon fought it before it was caught or who it was traded from (even if that person isn't the OT). I can't remember where in the game he is, though. That made me think that the game keeps extra hidden data on a Pokémon. Surely there must be ''some'' reason for why the same Pokémon doesn't pass for some people but does for others. It can't just be 'bad programming'; I can't think of how they'd mess up creating a simple set of checks, checks that should be the same for everybody. Something must be tripping the checks for one person but not the other, and I'm thinking it's the person's game. If you have the ability, could you try trading one of these Pokémon that won't pass (but will for your friends) to another of your games and then attempting to transfer? If that doesn't work then my theory weakens. | |||
::::For the record, though, I'm not denying that it could be Transporter actually being terrible. I just find it unlikely. [[User:Shugo|Shugo]] ([[User talk:Shugo|talk]]) 21:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::All of the stuff's kept in the .pkm except base stats, sprites and cry. I have traded between games, and that doesn't work either. However, I asked pokemon support about it and they said that "some pokemon cannot be transferred from certain games, and which pokemon can or cannot be tranferred depends on the settings of each game". Oddly enough though, I tried last night to pass an Arceus and Shaymin I made with the PokEdit app as a last resort and they passed. It's weird to say the least.----[[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Big</span>]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:#870735">Bad</span>]][[User:BigBadBatter|<span style="color:red">Batter</span>]] 21:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Modifications to transferred would-be shiny Pokémon == | |||
Previously a Pokemon would be shiny if the shiny formula would result in a Color ID between 0 and 7 inclusive (Color ID / CID, I refer to it by this name for simplicity sake), but as of X/Y the CID can be a number anywhere from 0 to 15 inclusive for the Pokemon to be shiny. | |||
My question is how would the Poke Transporter deal with Pokemon whose CID is a number between 8 and 15 inclusive, would they become shiny upon transfer or would they be locked into non-shiny ? I personally expect the latter to happens, and if the latter would evolution cancel the non-shininess ? Regards. [[User:Flare drive 2|Flare drive 2]] ([[User talk:Flare drive 2|talk]]) 18:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:By all means, try it and find out. But most likely no one around here knows the answer, and discussing what we "expect" is just pointless speculation. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:33, 20 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Well, that would have been the first thing I would have done if not due to the fact that I got no Pokemon games from Gen V and prior, hence why I asked here. [[User:Flare drive 2|Flare drive 2]] ([[User talk:Flare drive 2|talk]]) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Legit, yet un-tranferrable== | |||
Just curious, but could someone help me figure out why my Entei from Firered can't be transferred? The other beasts transferred just fine, so I'm stumped.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 07:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
== What is meant by this? == | |||
"If it was unnicknamed, and from another language game, it will no longer count as being a foreign-language Pokémon." | |||
As far as I can tell this is wrong. I have tonnes of unnicknamed foreign pokemon that still show up as foreign and unlock the dex entry. Unless it means it doesn't count for masuda? [[User:Jmvb|JMVB - I don't what to put here.]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 12:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:[[Special:Diff/Poké Transporter/2108386|I have no idea what Pikachu Bros. meant]], but if they can clarify it here, we can try to reword it. Obviously as it stood, it didn't make much sense at all. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:37, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Cost == | |||
Does this cost money to use? I know Pokemon bank does, but is this different? | |||
[[User:GavinSlavin|GavinSlavin]] ([[User talk:GavinSlavin|talk]]) 01:28, 18 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It's in the article.... | |||
:''As a part of Pokémon Bank, the player must have a valid pass in order to use Poké Transporter.'' | |||
--[[User:PannenkoekenNL|PannenkoekenNL]] ([[User talk:PannenkoekenNL|talk]]) 08:00, 19 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Legality Checking and the Mew Glitch == | |||
I would like to question if Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise are truly banned from being transferred or if a detail had been missed. For example, we know that a Mew without an OT of GF and an ID of 22796 cannot be transferred. However, there are Mew that are checked and can be transferred. Same for the starters, though with less restrictions. In the case of using the Mew Glitch without an attack modifier move, the resulting Pokémon is set to Level 7. While this would work for Pokémon like Mr.Mime that do not evolve, it does not work for the starters as it makes them underleveled. They would need to be at least past Level 35 before they would no longer be considered to be underleveled, something that might be checked to consider if a Pokémon is legal or not. | |||
To get to my point, has anyone tested transferring a Level 100 starter obtained from the Mew Glitch or any other evolved Pokémon that cannot be underleveled in Generation I without use of the Mew Glitch? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Location Data: RSE vs ORAS == | |||
I'm just wondering. Since, after the poké transporter transfer is done, Pokémon from Red, Blue, and Yellow will have the text 'Kanto in the good old days' added to the end (whereas FireRed/LeafGreen will just say 'Kanto') is this the same case for Hoenn games as well ('Hoenn in the good old days' for Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald vs just 'Hoenn' in ORAS)? [[User:Pokemonred200|Pokemonred200]] ([[User talk:Pokemonred200|talk]]) 11:55, 28 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:Nope, they're both just displayed as "Hoenn". You can tell them apart due to the [[blue pentagon]] on ORAS Pokémon though (which is now black). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Alola Forms == | |||
How does evolving Pokémon with Alolan variants work after using this? If you transfer, say, an Exeggcute to Sun or Moon from a Generation VI game and then evolve it, will it evolve into a normal Exeggutor or an Alolan Exeggutor? - [[User:TeridaxXD001|TeridaxXD001]] ([[User talk:TeridaxXD001|talk]]) 09:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
:In Alola, all Exeggcute evolve into Alolan Exeggutor. Kantonian Vulpix still evolve into Kantonian Ninetales though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:09, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
::Sould we add this to the article? - [[User:TeridaxXD001|TeridaxXD001]] ([[User talk:TeridaxXD001|talk]]) 10:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
:::It's not relevant to this article. Even Pokémon withdrawn directly from Pokémon Bank that were deposited by a Generation VI game, or bred in the Alola region, work the same way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Gen VII "modifications made" description error == | |||
"in Generation VII, the level obtained at and date obtained are removed from Pokémon obtained in previous generations." | |||
IMHO I think this is phrased incorrectly. The met date is changed to date transferred, | |||
and met level is changed to level transferred, but while not visible from gaming standpoint, | |||
it still yields the data; technically changed, not removed (I can see the transfer data in PKHeX) | |||
I think the only field that is actually removed, | |||
is this pesky [https://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Pokemon_Save_Structure#Encounter_Types encounter type] field used in Gen 4 (trash bytes past gen 4), | |||
that IIRC is now used to store the "hyper training" data as bitflags. | |||
<b><span style="color:blue">the</span><span style="color:red">SLAYER</span></b> ([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Theslayer talk]) 06:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
:I've reworded this line to something more precisely accurate. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Generation One Pokemon Transfer == | |||
Is there any way of knowing or predicting which Pokemon from Red, Blue, and Yellow will show up as when transfer them, such as what genders they'll be, their abilities, their natures, etc. | |||
I just want a No Guard male Machop with Fissure transferred from Pokemon Red, but I have no way of knowing which one will have No Guard or be male. {{unsigned|Mcheetah}} | |||
:Nice try, but all gen 1 Pokemon have their hidden abilities, so what you want is impossible (which sucks for me; I wanted a Chansey w/ Reflect & Natural Cure).[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
::The details on this are listed in the [[Poké Transporter#From Generation I|From Generation I]] section of this page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
== EVs Changes in Gen V Transfers == | |||
According to [https://pokemondb.net/pokebase/182670/transferred-fully-trained-pokemon-from-would-happen-total this thread], mons transferred from gen V with more than 252 EVs just have the extras removed to be retrained. Does this count as good enough evidence to add it to the gen V section, or do I need to be able to show my own proof (which I will be able to do if needed)? Thanks! | |||
[[User:TransGardevoir|TransGardevoir]] ([[User talk:TransGardevoir|talk]]) 03:13, 10 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Pokerus == | |||
There's currently no mention of Pokerus on the page. I've heard it transfers just fine from Gen V but have no idea about the virtual console games. Does anyone know the if there are any circumstances where it doesn't transfer? -- [[User:Dr Miichael|Dr Miichael]] ([[User talk:Dr Miichael|talk]]) 14:49, 28 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I haven't tested it myself, but apparently it is not transferred from Gen II Virtual Console. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:26, 28 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Gen 2 (friendship evos?) cannot be transferred == | |||
I just evolved my Golbat and Togepi in Crystal, but Poké Transporter blocked Crobat and Togetic while transfering. | |||
It said, some of the Pokémon can't be transferred. | |||
No Dizzy Punch, all legal, original fresh copy of Virtual Console Crystal, worked with the rest of the Pokédex so far. | |||
Not sure if it's about the friendship, they are my first friendship evolutions that I tried to transfer. | |||
If anyone has info, please respond here, I'll keep investigating. {{unsigned|Williamgg}} | |||
EDIT: big news. They were holding an item. Now (latest version), item holding Pokémon cannot be transferred, at least from gen 2. {{unsigned|Williamgg}} | |||
== Legitimate Manaphy unable to transfer to Bank from White 2 == | |||
On July 14th, 2016 I attempted to transfer my 100% legitimate Manaphy to Transporter from White 2. This Manaphy originated on Pokemon Diamond, hatched at Twinleaf Town on July 24, 2014, and came from the Pokemon ranger event. It was never altered or hacked. | |||
Oddly, I actually had a hacked Pokemon in the same load go through, which was a shiny Charizard in a Master Ball. Why didn't the legitimate Manaphy go through? [[User:Mario60866|Mario60866]] ([[User talk:Mario60866|talk]]) 18:50, 28 February 2022 (UTC) | |||
:If you are able to extract your White 2 save file, you might be able to show it to someone at projectpokemon.org who might know more. It will be almost impossible to answer this without the entirety of the Manaphy's data itself. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 04:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Transferring from Japanese games doesn't seem to be affected by the filtered word list at all == | |||
I found an English word that is filtered in Gen 6 but not Gen 5, as well as a Japanese word. (On a Japanese Gen 6 game, I made sure neither could be entered as nicknames.) | |||
I then tested all four of these: | |||
* Japanese Gen 5 physical cart, name a Pokemon the Japanese filtered word from Gen 6. | |||
* Japanese Gen 5 physical cart, name a Pokemon the English filtered word from Gen 6. | |||
* Japanese Gen 5 physical cart, get traded a Pokemon from an English Gen 5 game whose name is the English filtered word from Gen 6. | |||
* Japanese Virtual Console game, name a Pokemon the Japanese filtered word from Gen 6. | |||
All four tests went through Poke Transporter, with no filtering. (I also did tests with OT vs. nickname, and hiragana vs. katakana. Nothing was filtered.) | |||
By contrast, I also tested English Virtual Console game -> name a Pokemon the English filtered word from Gen 6. This was filtered. | |||
I should be able to obtain an English Gen 5 physical cart in about 3-4 weeks, and then I'll do some tests on that before this goes into the article. | |||
Side notes: | |||
* [[User:SnorlaxMonster]] has reported encountering this on Japanese Virtual Console before: [https://twitter.com/SnorlaxMonster/status/826808898816323584][https://twitter.com/SnorlaxMonster/status/827005974196019200] | |||
* The filter does apply to Hangul: [https://imgur.com/x5t5Kmq] | |||
[[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 05:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
:On Discord, [[User:Abcboy]] provided [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087669163356586034/1097440850063138897/IMG_6099.png an example] of the filter in Japanese previously working before Gen 7. Specifically, in December 2013 a Japanese player reported that [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Trade_for_Evolution.21_Pok.C3.A9mon|an event Pokemon's OT]], せいしゃ (Seisha), was blocked due to matching the 3DS regex <code>.*セイシ[^ロ].*</code>, which (according to a Japanese dictionary) was probably intended to match "sperm" but (obviously) the character sequence occurs in too many other words. (According to a 3DS datamine, this particular regex was removed from the filter list <s>in version 10.2.0 (October 2015)</s>.) [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 08:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Edit: Wait wtf, I misinterpreted the 3DS's internal version numbers and this word was apparently removed from the filter list in version 4.0.0 (April 2012), predating Poke Transporter. Now I don't know what to make of this. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 09:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::I obtained a French Gen 5 physical cart to test with, and the results are super weird: | |||
::* French Gen 5, name a Pokemon a filtered word in Gen 6. This '''does not''' get filtered by Poke Transporter. | |||
::* French Gen 5, get traded a Pokemon from Japanese Gen 5 whose name is a filtered word (in Japanese). This '''does not''' get filtered by Poke Transporter. | |||
::So does the swear filter just no longer apply to all languages of Gen 5? [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 05:05, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Word filter tests == | |||
Notes: | |||
* All seventeen of the 3DS's region + language filter lists have a test word unique to that one list only. It is always a six-letter word of the form "bbw{x}{yz}", where {x} is the region (e.g. "j" for Japan, for some reason "e" for the Americas, "p" for Europe) and {yz} is the language (e.g. "en" for English and "es" for Spanish). For example, "bbwefr" is the test word that only trips for Canadian French. | |||
* For some reason, all seventeen of the 3DS's region + language filter lists also have ワルモシ in kana as an apparent test word. | |||
From Gen 5: | |||
* "omfg" is allowed in Gen 5 but blocked in 3DS Japanese, US English, and UK English (at least). When I transfer "omfg" from a Japanese 3DS running a Japanese Gen 5 game, it's '''allowed'''. User:SnorlaxMonster found the same with a European/Australian 3DS running an English Gen 5 game. | |||
* "adhd" is blocked in Gen 5 but allowed in 3DS. Gen 5 doesn't detect spaces though. When I transfer "ad hd", it's '''blocked'''. When I transfer "xadhd", it's '''allowed'''. | |||
* "xbastard" is allowed in Gen 5. On the 3DS, it is (for some reason) blocked only in Taiwan + Traditional Chinese and Taiwan + English. (Note that Taiwan region 3DSes can't be set to English, so the latter is an internal-only list.) When I transfer "xbastard", it's '''blocked'''. | |||
* When I transfer "bbwtzh" and "bbwten" as tests, both are '''allowed'''. (These are the test words for the only two lists to block "xbastard".) | |||
* When I transfer ワルモシ, it's '''blocked'''. | |||
Conclusion: (3) and (4) together imply that no 3DS list is used directly. It could be applying a substring version of the 3DS lists, but this is contradicted by (1). It could be applying a substring version of the Gen 5 lists, but this is contradicted by (2). Finally, it can't be ignoring all the 3DS lists, because of (5). So the list must be something inconsistent server-side. | |||
From Virtual Console: | |||
* I tested transferring "bbwjjp", "bbween", "bbwefr", "bbwees", "bbwpen", "bbwpfr", "bbwpes", "bbwkko", "bbwtzh", and "bbwten" from a U region 3DS. Of these, only "bbween" (the US English filter) was '''blocked''' and the rest were all '''allowed''', even when all four of the 3DS system language, Bank's language, Transporter's language, and the Virtual Console game's language were not English. | |||
* User:SnorlaxMonster tested transferring from a K region 3DS. Some words in Hangul were '''blocked'''. | |||
* When I transfer various swears from a J region 3DS, including a word that appears on both the Gen 5 list and the 3DS Japanese list, all of them were '''allowed'''. | |||
* When I transfer ワルモシ from a J region 3DS, it's '''blocked'''. | |||
* "con" is blocked in Gen 5 and 3DS Canadian French, European French, Taiwan + Traditional Chinese, and Taiwan + English. When I transfer "con" from a U region 3DS, with the 3DS system language/Bank's language/Transporter's language/Virtual Console game's language as English, it's '''blocked'''. | |||
* When I transfer "adhd" from a U region 3DS under the same conditions, it's '''allowed'''. | |||
Conclusion: (1) implies that U region 3DSes use only the 3DS US English list regardless of language settings, but this is contradicted by (5). It could be applying the Gen 5 lists for some reason, but this is contradicted by (6). So the list must be something inconsistent server-side. | |||
[[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 08:25, 29 May 2023 (UTC) |
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B/W?
Does anyone know if this will be exclusive to B2/W2 or will it include original B/W? Tacopill (talk) 01:58, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Stardom
Does anyone know if pokemon that achieve 'cult star' status at Pokestar Studios will keep their entrance sparkle in X/Y? Legionaireb (talk) 18:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- I am not sure that is related to the Poké Transporter. Tacopill (talk) 15:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've heard reports that the Pokéstar Studios and N's Pokémon entry animations no longer occur. I don't have a Japanese game though, so I haven't tested this myself. --SnorlaxMonster 16:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry if this is old news, but I can confirm that the Pokéstar Studios entry animation is gone. Tested this by sending out my Wynaut against a wild Flabébé. In Black 2, my Wynaut had the animation. In Y, nothing. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 12:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've heard reports that the Pokéstar Studios and N's Pokémon entry animations no longer occur. I don't have a Japanese game though, so I haven't tested this myself. --SnorlaxMonster 16:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Names of transferred Pokémon
Something that the article doesn't seem to note yet: Transporter fixes the all-uppercase names of unnicknamed Pokémon from Gen III and IV to proper case. Not sure where to put that without it looking like a random statement, though, so I'll let someone else decide. Soulweaver (talk · edits) 19:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Pokédex trivia
after using Poké Transporter, I discovered that the symbol that marks a completed Pokédex entry, instead of being the Kalos symbol, will be a the National Pokédex symbol (a Pokéball) if, and only if, using Poké Transporter got you the Pokémon species in question, or evolving a Pokémon that was transferred gets you the entry. This symbol can be upgraded to the Kalos symbol by catching or evolving a native-to-Kalos Pokémon of the species, as well as hatching one. I tested this with Aron. I initially got the entry by transfering, then I hatched one that was laid by a Lairon I had. --KinCryos (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Makes sense, and I confirm. The logo for the National Dex is the red/white Poké Ball, so entries exclusive to it would be marked as such...wait, I just went over to Pokédex, someone stated that the National Dex icon is the combo of the three regional Dex icons... --TruePikachu (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Pokédex Completion
Does anyone happen to know how the Pokédex in XY is marked with regard to imports from Bank? Specifically, I know the somewhere in the line, the Dex gets marked as Caught, but I don't know if the game or if Bank does it, and if Bank does, what conditions need to be met (transferred to XY by save, was in an XY box during the "transaction" (could be removed later in the same transaction), was in full Bank system, etc). Hopefully (for Ninty and our game carts) it is one of the two latter possibilities, because then one could do mass Dex filling in a single transaction, reducing both server load and flash writes (to either SD, cart, or NAND(?)). --TruePikachu (talk) 23:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're referring to. I finished my dex today, so I could potentially answer your question but...I don't understand. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 23:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Edit: Oh. Yup. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 23:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- So it is clarified for other people, I'm wondering when the game's Pokédex is updated to indicate Pokémon as having been caught. There are only two/three possibilities for when the actual Dex is updated on the save file (save/exit from Bank, save of XY, or load of XY), but if it is Bank which updates the dex, there are a number of possibilities as to how (see old post for list). The thing is, a couple of the possibilities could result in the game's Dex having Pokémon marked as having been caught, without keeping them on the savefile for a period of time. I think I might link this discussion from the Bank talkpage as well, as it seems to be more related to Bank, or even with Bank and 2 GenVI games. --TruePikachu (talk) 01:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Arceus
In my own experience, which is backed up by the experiences of those on external forums, the TRU Arceus cannot be transferred. Me, Hurray! (talk) 15:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'd actually like to see a list started on the Transporter page for 'legit' Pokémon that can't be transferred. I can already confirm that any Shaymin or Darkrai caught from Japanese Diamond/Pearl (via the surf-into-the-void bug) won't go through since they aren't tagged with "fateful encounter". I've read that Azure Flute Arceus won't go either. I know all those are technically 'cheated' but it'd be good to know. One non-cheated that I'm yet to confirm myself but that I've heard is blocked is the Gen3 Mystery Mew that they handed out at TRU back in 2006. I'm gonna test the Journey Across America Celebi and all of the event ticket Pokémon from Gen3 soon for myself, since I have access to them. They're all still in my Gen3 games, though, so I need to set aside some time to do a lot of transferring. There's plenty of others I'd like to get confirmed, too, like pretty much all event handouts (since TRU Arceus won't transfer, which is a BIG disappointment).Shugo (talk) 08:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I just checked both the Arceus I have in my X version. One of them was actually from my Diamond version which I got through use of the Azure Flute. My other was obtained in White through the PGL promotion. I honestly haven't had any issues transferring Pokémon at all. My Azure Flute Arceus is the only "hacked" Pokémon that I've ever transferred. The rest are banished to my Diamond version, never to be removed. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 08:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've heard Hayley's Phione won't go through either. --SnorlaxMonster 10:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Uh oh, I wonder if that means Hayley's Mew won't work either. Ranch is the only legit in-game way to get an English Mew as of now, and if that's blocked then there's only a couple distributed Mews left for us poor English users.Shugo (talk) 10:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Personally, if a handful of event PkMn are being blocked, I believe the issue should be brought up with Ninty/GF. If someone can assemble a list of known problems, Nintendo or GameFreak (I don't know who configures etc. the servers, or if it is a client-side block) can work to fix the problem. I might do a event transfer at some point (using the GenV GTS exploit to send the ones I lost to my W2, since my Black's EEPROM died on me along with most of my prized collection), I'll note other events which don't go through. --TruePikachu (talk) 00:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC) (note to self: back up Pt/SS/W2 before those chips die too)
- Uh oh, I wonder if that means Hayley's Mew won't work either. Ranch is the only legit in-game way to get an English Mew as of now, and if that's blocked then there's only a couple distributed Mews left for us poor English users.Shugo (talk) 10:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've heard Hayley's Phione won't go through either. --SnorlaxMonster 10:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I just checked both the Arceus I have in my X version. One of them was actually from my Diamond version which I got through use of the Azure Flute. My other was obtained in White through the PGL promotion. I honestly haven't had any issues transferring Pokémon at all. My Azure Flute Arceus is the only "hacked" Pokémon that I've ever transferred. The rest are banished to my Diamond version, never to be removed. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 08:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I can't get any variation of shaymin or arceus to transfer. What I've noticed is that some people's banks seem to differ on what they think is hacked. For example, one of my friends was able to transfer 6IV Dittos to Gen 6, and I had the exact same .pkm file for that ditto, and it didn't pass. Sometimes a .pkm on one game will register as hacked, and if you trade it to another bank passes it. I do agree with TruePikachu though, GF needs to fix this.----BigBadBatter 03:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- I have a Shaymin transferred, though, let me check which one...--TruePikachu (talk) 03:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- TRU Shaymin, and realised that Bank might be databasing PIDs so that clones aren't let on. No idea if there is a whitelist for events, someone should confirm. --TruePikachu (talk) 03:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- And to think that they're letting Shiny Zekroms and Reshirams through. It would seem odd for them to database PIDs, because there's a fairly narrow spectrum of PIDs for event pokemon if I remember correctly, especially those with invariable natures.----BigBadBatter 03:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Which is why there would be a whitelist for events. But now I'm not so sure they are doing so, someone should probably contact Nintendo. I guess I'll see if I'm able to. I don't expect them to share the details about the algorithm, but they might check it to make sure it is actually working as intended. --TruePikachu (talk) 03:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- You're probably trying to send non-fateful encounter Shaymin through, which are always illegitimate and known to be prohibited. I highly doubt the game prevents duplicate PIDs going through, and that there is any difference between people's Pokémon Transporter checks. --SnorlaxMonster 03:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Believe it or not, they actually were fateful-encounter ones. I tried a TRU and an Oblivia Shaymin. Neither worked. It' really weird how some legit pokemon can't pass but some really badly done hacks can pass. As I said before though, some banks pass different things for some strange reason. It really ticks me off. While we're at it though, considering this is a pretty prominent issue, should we add some details to the page about it?----BigBadBatter 21:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- You can in the meantime, but I'm waiting for a response from TPCi or someone. I not only mentioned that some events weren't going through, but I also mentioned a case where a hacked PkMn did go through (I am not elaborating on this here). I also sent a link to this page, but don't expect them to reply here. However, if they do discover that there was indeed a problem, the edits could become incorrect and be removed later. --TruePikachu (talk) 22:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Believe it or not, they actually were fateful-encounter ones. I tried a TRU and an Oblivia Shaymin. Neither worked. It' really weird how some legit pokemon can't pass but some really badly done hacks can pass. As I said before though, some banks pass different things for some strange reason. It really ticks me off. While we're at it though, considering this is a pretty prominent issue, should we add some details to the page about it?----BigBadBatter 21:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- You're probably trying to send non-fateful encounter Shaymin through, which are always illegitimate and known to be prohibited. I highly doubt the game prevents duplicate PIDs going through, and that there is any difference between people's Pokémon Transporter checks. --SnorlaxMonster 03:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Which is why there would be a whitelist for events. But now I'm not so sure they are doing so, someone should probably contact Nintendo. I guess I'll see if I'm able to. I don't expect them to share the details about the algorithm, but they might check it to make sure it is actually working as intended. --TruePikachu (talk) 03:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- And to think that they're letting Shiny Zekroms and Reshirams through. It would seem odd for them to database PIDs, because there's a fairly narrow spectrum of PIDs for event pokemon if I remember correctly, especially those with invariable natures.----BigBadBatter 03:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- TRU Shaymin, and realised that Bank might be databasing PIDs so that clones aren't let on. No idea if there is a whitelist for events, someone should confirm. --TruePikachu (talk) 03:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
(resetting indent again) I can confirm that the TRU Mystery Mew (mentioned near the beginning of this comment thread) is indeed blocked. Possibly because its SID is 0. Rycr (talk) 09:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed I can confirm that legitimately obtained (special event) TRU arcues is tansferable. I can also personally confirm the 2006 TRU mew is transferable. I realize people have already confirmed this, but I figure the more confimation from seperate sources is best in this case. Icestar649 (talk) 13:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Wait so which is it? Mystery Mew blocked or not? I still haven't had the chance to check myself. I do have five legitimate ones actually obtained at the TRU event, currently sitting in my Pokémon Box. (That was fun; I got four friends to wait in line with me.)
- I think what might be going on here is something going wrong with Pokémon obtained via injected PKM. The games keep lots of hidden records, including data on when and how Pokémon are met. Maybe Transporter checks more than just the Pokémon itself; perhaps it checks with the save file to see how that Pokémon arrived in the game. It would make sense of what BigBadBatter said about how his Ditto imported from a PKM file wouldn't work but it did for his friend. It's possible his friend's game created a record of that Ditto arriving "legitimately" through a trade whereas his own game had no such record due to being imported directly. It might also explain why some event Pokémon seem blocked, since those are very commonly imported through hacking. Someone on /vp/ was giving away a TRU Arceus, and he confirmed to me that TRU Arceus is not blocked, contrary to many reports. The reports likely stem from the possible issue I just outlined.Shugo (talk) 07:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm Pokedit's Head Moderater and a .pkm legality specialist, and I can say this, the game keeps no such records. When and how they were met is in the .pkm's memo data, and can be easily edited. I have passed a lot of injected and edited .pkm files, because all the parameters were legal. All the event pokemon I've attempted to get in were completely unedited, and 100% legal (used pokecheck to confirm this, but don't have a link to the .pkm, sorry). I've also recently tested with another friend identical Arceus and Shaymin .pkms. Theirs passed and mine didn't. Remember that really badly hacked pokemon have been able to pass bank, whilst some legit ones can't. I say it's just really bad programming on GF's part. Also Shugo, I am a girl XD----BigBadBatter 21:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- I meant the other details that the game apparently keeps regarding Pokémon, unless that's also kept in the PKM. (I don't know much about the PKM format.) I recall there being a guy in Black/White you could talk to who would tell you a bunch of extra details about a Pokémon, like what Pokémon fought it before it was caught or who it was traded from (even if that person isn't the OT). I can't remember where in the game he is, though. That made me think that the game keeps extra hidden data on a Pokémon. Surely there must be some reason for why the same Pokémon doesn't pass for some people but does for others. It can't just be 'bad programming'; I can't think of how they'd mess up creating a simple set of checks, checks that should be the same for everybody. Something must be tripping the checks for one person but not the other, and I'm thinking it's the person's game. If you have the ability, could you try trading one of these Pokémon that won't pass (but will for your friends) to another of your games and then attempting to transfer? If that doesn't work then my theory weakens.
- For the record, though, I'm not denying that it could be Transporter actually being terrible. I just find it unlikely. Shugo (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- All of the stuff's kept in the .pkm except base stats, sprites and cry. I have traded between games, and that doesn't work either. However, I asked pokemon support about it and they said that "some pokemon cannot be transferred from certain games, and which pokemon can or cannot be tranferred depends on the settings of each game". Oddly enough though, I tried last night to pass an Arceus and Shaymin I made with the PokEdit app as a last resort and they passed. It's weird to say the least.----BigBadBatter 21:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm Pokedit's Head Moderater and a .pkm legality specialist, and I can say this, the game keeps no such records. When and how they were met is in the .pkm's memo data, and can be easily edited. I have passed a lot of injected and edited .pkm files, because all the parameters were legal. All the event pokemon I've attempted to get in were completely unedited, and 100% legal (used pokecheck to confirm this, but don't have a link to the .pkm, sorry). I've also recently tested with another friend identical Arceus and Shaymin .pkms. Theirs passed and mine didn't. Remember that really badly hacked pokemon have been able to pass bank, whilst some legit ones can't. I say it's just really bad programming on GF's part. Also Shugo, I am a girl XD----BigBadBatter 21:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Modifications to transferred would-be shiny Pokémon
Previously a Pokemon would be shiny if the shiny formula would result in a Color ID between 0 and 7 inclusive (Color ID / CID, I refer to it by this name for simplicity sake), but as of X/Y the CID can be a number anywhere from 0 to 15 inclusive for the Pokemon to be shiny. My question is how would the Poke Transporter deal with Pokemon whose CID is a number between 8 and 15 inclusive, would they become shiny upon transfer or would they be locked into non-shiny ? I personally expect the latter to happens, and if the latter would evolution cancel the non-shininess ? Regards. Flare drive 2 (talk) 18:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- By all means, try it and find out. But most likely no one around here knows the answer, and discussing what we "expect" is just pointless speculation. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:33, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, that would have been the first thing I would have done if not due to the fact that I got no Pokemon games from Gen V and prior, hence why I asked here. Flare drive 2 (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Legit, yet un-tranferrable
Just curious, but could someone help me figure out why my Entei from Firered can't be transferred? The other beasts transferred just fine, so I'm stumped.CraftyWeavile (talk) 07:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
What is meant by this?
"If it was unnicknamed, and from another language game, it will no longer count as being a foreign-language Pokémon."
As far as I can tell this is wrong. I have tonnes of unnicknamed foreign pokemon that still show up as foreign and unlock the dex entry. Unless it means it doesn't count for masuda? JMVB - I don't what to put here. (talk) 12:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have no idea what Pikachu Bros. meant, but if they can clarify it here, we can try to reword it. Obviously as it stood, it didn't make much sense at all. --Abcboy (talk) 13:37, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Cost
Does this cost money to use? I know Pokemon bank does, but is this different?
GavinSlavin (talk) 01:28, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's in the article....
- As a part of Pokémon Bank, the player must have a valid pass in order to use Poké Transporter.
--PannenkoekenNL (talk) 08:00, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Legality Checking and the Mew Glitch
I would like to question if Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise are truly banned from being transferred or if a detail had been missed. For example, we know that a Mew without an OT of GF and an ID of 22796 cannot be transferred. However, there are Mew that are checked and can be transferred. Same for the starters, though with less restrictions. In the case of using the Mew Glitch without an attack modifier move, the resulting Pokémon is set to Level 7. While this would work for Pokémon like Mr.Mime that do not evolve, it does not work for the starters as it makes them underleveled. They would need to be at least past Level 35 before they would no longer be considered to be underleveled, something that might be checked to consider if a Pokémon is legal or not.
To get to my point, has anyone tested transferring a Level 100 starter obtained from the Mew Glitch or any other evolved Pokémon that cannot be underleveled in Generation I without use of the Mew Glitch? --Super goku (talk) 06:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Location Data: RSE vs ORAS
I'm just wondering. Since, after the poké transporter transfer is done, Pokémon from Red, Blue, and Yellow will have the text 'Kanto in the good old days' added to the end (whereas FireRed/LeafGreen will just say 'Kanto') is this the same case for Hoenn games as well ('Hoenn in the good old days' for Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald vs just 'Hoenn' in ORAS)? Pokemonred200 (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, they're both just displayed as "Hoenn". You can tell them apart due to the blue pentagon on ORAS Pokémon though (which is now black). --SnorlaxMonster 12:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Alola Forms
How does evolving Pokémon with Alolan variants work after using this? If you transfer, say, an Exeggcute to Sun or Moon from a Generation VI game and then evolve it, will it evolve into a normal Exeggutor or an Alolan Exeggutor? - TeridaxXD001 (talk) 09:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- In Alola, all Exeggcute evolve into Alolan Exeggutor. Kantonian Vulpix still evolve into Kantonian Ninetales though. --SnorlaxMonster 10:09, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Sould we add this to the article? - TeridaxXD001 (talk) 10:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Gen VII "modifications made" description error
"in Generation VII, the level obtained at and date obtained are removed from Pokémon obtained in previous generations."
IMHO I think this is phrased incorrectly. The met date is changed to date transferred, and met level is changed to level transferred, but while not visible from gaming standpoint, it still yields the data; technically changed, not removed (I can see the transfer data in PKHeX)
I think the only field that is actually removed, is this pesky encounter type field used in Gen 4 (trash bytes past gen 4), that IIRC is now used to store the "hyper training" data as bitflags. theSLAYER (talk) 06:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've reworded this line to something more precisely accurate. --SnorlaxMonster 15:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Generation One Pokemon Transfer
Is there any way of knowing or predicting which Pokemon from Red, Blue, and Yellow will show up as when transfer them, such as what genders they'll be, their abilities, their natures, etc.
I just want a No Guard male Machop with Fissure transferred from Pokemon Red, but I have no way of knowing which one will have No Guard or be male. - unsigned comment from Mcheetah (talk • contribs)
- Nice try, but all gen 1 Pokemon have their hidden abilities, so what you want is impossible (which sucks for me; I wanted a Chansey w/ Reflect & Natural Cure).¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- The details on this are listed in the From Generation I section of this page. --SnorlaxMonster 03:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
EVs Changes in Gen V Transfers
According to this thread, mons transferred from gen V with more than 252 EVs just have the extras removed to be retrained. Does this count as good enough evidence to add it to the gen V section, or do I need to be able to show my own proof (which I will be able to do if needed)? Thanks!
TransGardevoir (talk) 03:13, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Pokerus
There's currently no mention of Pokerus on the page. I've heard it transfers just fine from Gen V but have no idea about the virtual console games. Does anyone know the if there are any circumstances where it doesn't transfer? -- Dr Miichael (talk) 14:49, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- I haven't tested it myself, but apparently it is not transferred from Gen II Virtual Console. --SnorlaxMonster 15:26, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Gen 2 (friendship evos?) cannot be transferred
I just evolved my Golbat and Togepi in Crystal, but Poké Transporter blocked Crobat and Togetic while transfering. It said, some of the Pokémon can't be transferred. No Dizzy Punch, all legal, original fresh copy of Virtual Console Crystal, worked with the rest of the Pokédex so far. Not sure if it's about the friendship, they are my first friendship evolutions that I tried to transfer.
If anyone has info, please respond here, I'll keep investigating. - unsigned comment from Williamgg (talk • contribs)
EDIT: big news. They were holding an item. Now (latest version), item holding Pokémon cannot be transferred, at least from gen 2. - unsigned comment from Williamgg (talk • contribs)
Legitimate Manaphy unable to transfer to Bank from White 2
On July 14th, 2016 I attempted to transfer my 100% legitimate Manaphy to Transporter from White 2. This Manaphy originated on Pokemon Diamond, hatched at Twinleaf Town on July 24, 2014, and came from the Pokemon ranger event. It was never altered or hacked.
Oddly, I actually had a hacked Pokemon in the same load go through, which was a shiny Charizard in a Master Ball. Why didn't the legitimate Manaphy go through? Mario60866 (talk) 18:50, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you are able to extract your White 2 save file, you might be able to show it to someone at projectpokemon.org who might know more. It will be almost impossible to answer this without the entirety of the Manaphy's data itself. Blueapple128 (talk) 04:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Transferring from Japanese games doesn't seem to be affected by the filtered word list at all
I found an English word that is filtered in Gen 6 but not Gen 5, as well as a Japanese word. (On a Japanese Gen 6 game, I made sure neither could be entered as nicknames.)
I then tested all four of these:
- Japanese Gen 5 physical cart, name a Pokemon the Japanese filtered word from Gen 6.
- Japanese Gen 5 physical cart, name a Pokemon the English filtered word from Gen 6.
- Japanese Gen 5 physical cart, get traded a Pokemon from an English Gen 5 game whose name is the English filtered word from Gen 6.
- Japanese Virtual Console game, name a Pokemon the Japanese filtered word from Gen 6.
All four tests went through Poke Transporter, with no filtering. (I also did tests with OT vs. nickname, and hiragana vs. katakana. Nothing was filtered.)
By contrast, I also tested English Virtual Console game -> name a Pokemon the English filtered word from Gen 6. This was filtered.
I should be able to obtain an English Gen 5 physical cart in about 3-4 weeks, and then I'll do some tests on that before this goes into the article.
Side notes:
- User:SnorlaxMonster has reported encountering this on Japanese Virtual Console before: [1][2]
- The filter does apply to Hangul: [3]
Blueapple128 (talk) 05:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- On Discord, User:Abcboy provided an example of the filter in Japanese previously working before Gen 7. Specifically, in December 2013 a Japanese player reported that an event Pokemon's OT, せいしゃ (Seisha), was blocked due to matching the 3DS regex
.*セイシ[^ロ].*
, which (according to a Japanese dictionary) was probably intended to match "sperm" but (obviously) the character sequence occurs in too many other words. (According to a 3DS datamine, this particular regex was removed from the filter listin version 10.2.0 (October 2015).) Blueapple128 (talk) 08:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC) - Edit: Wait wtf, I misinterpreted the 3DS's internal version numbers and this word was apparently removed from the filter list in version 4.0.0 (April 2012), predating Poke Transporter. Now I don't know what to make of this. Blueapple128 (talk) 09:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I obtained a French Gen 5 physical cart to test with, and the results are super weird:
- French Gen 5, name a Pokemon a filtered word in Gen 6. This does not get filtered by Poke Transporter.
- French Gen 5, get traded a Pokemon from Japanese Gen 5 whose name is a filtered word (in Japanese). This does not get filtered by Poke Transporter.
- So does the swear filter just no longer apply to all languages of Gen 5? Blueapple128 (talk) 05:05, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I obtained a French Gen 5 physical cart to test with, and the results are super weird:
Word filter tests
Notes:
- All seventeen of the 3DS's region + language filter lists have a test word unique to that one list only. It is always a six-letter word of the form "bbw{x}{yz}", where {x} is the region (e.g. "j" for Japan, for some reason "e" for the Americas, "p" for Europe) and {yz} is the language (e.g. "en" for English and "es" for Spanish). For example, "bbwefr" is the test word that only trips for Canadian French.
- For some reason, all seventeen of the 3DS's region + language filter lists also have ワルモシ in kana as an apparent test word.
From Gen 5:
- "omfg" is allowed in Gen 5 but blocked in 3DS Japanese, US English, and UK English (at least). When I transfer "omfg" from a Japanese 3DS running a Japanese Gen 5 game, it's allowed. User:SnorlaxMonster found the same with a European/Australian 3DS running an English Gen 5 game.
- "adhd" is blocked in Gen 5 but allowed in 3DS. Gen 5 doesn't detect spaces though. When I transfer "ad hd", it's blocked. When I transfer "xadhd", it's allowed.
- "xbastard" is allowed in Gen 5. On the 3DS, it is (for some reason) blocked only in Taiwan + Traditional Chinese and Taiwan + English. (Note that Taiwan region 3DSes can't be set to English, so the latter is an internal-only list.) When I transfer "xbastard", it's blocked.
- When I transfer "bbwtzh" and "bbwten" as tests, both are allowed. (These are the test words for the only two lists to block "xbastard".)
- When I transfer ワルモシ, it's blocked.
Conclusion: (3) and (4) together imply that no 3DS list is used directly. It could be applying a substring version of the 3DS lists, but this is contradicted by (1). It could be applying a substring version of the Gen 5 lists, but this is contradicted by (2). Finally, it can't be ignoring all the 3DS lists, because of (5). So the list must be something inconsistent server-side.
From Virtual Console:
- I tested transferring "bbwjjp", "bbween", "bbwefr", "bbwees", "bbwpen", "bbwpfr", "bbwpes", "bbwkko", "bbwtzh", and "bbwten" from a U region 3DS. Of these, only "bbween" (the US English filter) was blocked and the rest were all allowed, even when all four of the 3DS system language, Bank's language, Transporter's language, and the Virtual Console game's language were not English.
- User:SnorlaxMonster tested transferring from a K region 3DS. Some words in Hangul were blocked.
- When I transfer various swears from a J region 3DS, including a word that appears on both the Gen 5 list and the 3DS Japanese list, all of them were allowed.
- When I transfer ワルモシ from a J region 3DS, it's blocked.
- "con" is blocked in Gen 5 and 3DS Canadian French, European French, Taiwan + Traditional Chinese, and Taiwan + English. When I transfer "con" from a U region 3DS, with the 3DS system language/Bank's language/Transporter's language/Virtual Console game's language as English, it's blocked.
- When I transfer "adhd" from a U region 3DS under the same conditions, it's allowed.
Conclusion: (1) implies that U region 3DSes use only the 3DS US English list regardless of language settings, but this is contradicted by (5). It could be applying the Gen 5 lists for some reason, but this is contradicted by (6). So the list must be something inconsistent server-side.
Blueapple128 (talk) 08:25, 29 May 2023 (UTC)