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:::The game art shows a spicy sour poffin and a mild poffin, and within the case, two foul poffins and a dry poffin, while in the anime, they're only seen as pink. Since some things are shown differently in the anime in comparison to the games (poffins do nothing in the anime while in the games, they raise the conditions of a Pokemon), wouldn't it make more sense to show how they are originally seen? The article is mainly about a poffin's depiction in the games anyway. I really don't know if that image makes the page more interesting, since they're just crowding over the bowl. Also, why add Dawn there too? She's just standing there. It's the same with the [[a:File:Meloetta_fever.png|sick Meloetta]] image. Ash wasn't doing anything there at all which is why I replaced it. | :::The game art shows a spicy sour poffin and a mild poffin, and within the case, two foul poffins and a dry poffin, while in the anime, they're only seen as pink. Since some things are shown differently in the anime in comparison to the games (poffins do nothing in the anime while in the games, they raise the conditions of a Pokemon), wouldn't it make more sense to show how they are originally seen? The article is mainly about a poffin's depiction in the games anyway. I really don't know if that image makes the page more interesting, since they're just crowding over the bowl. Also, why add Dawn there too? She's just standing there. It's the same with the [[a:File:Meloetta_fever.png|sick Meloetta]] image. Ash wasn't doing anything there at all which is why I replaced it. | ||
:::If there was an image from a more recent series of the anime that has higher quality than the other, wouldn't you update it? In comparison of the older series to the newer, I'd say that images for certain things are more enticing than before, which is why I wanted to change the [[a:File: Vulpix anime.png|Vulpix]] image in the anime with [[a:File:Samson Vulpix.png|this one]]. In comparison, which looks more appealing?-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 06:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC) | :::If there was an image from a more recent series of the anime that has higher quality than the other, wouldn't you update it? In comparison of the older series to the newer, I'd say that images for certain things are more enticing than before, which is why I wanted to change the [[a:File: Vulpix anime.png|Vulpix]] image in the anime with [[a:File:Samson Vulpix.png|this one]]. In comparison, which looks more appealing?-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 06:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC) | ||
::::You won't find screenshots from episodes prior to ''[[DP121|The Lonely Snover!]]'' in a 16:9 aspect ratio unless they have been cropped. The Swinub image cannot be 1280 × 720 and there's nothing wrong with it. Its dimensions aren't incorrect. Again, the page is about the person who grooms, not the act of grooming. Your image isn't better just because the brush is physically touching Fennekin. I think we can all infer what Dawn is doing with a brush on her hand. | |||
::::I explained why I changed the intro image in the Poffin article in my last message and I was perfectly clear. If you did not understand, try reading it again. The article is about Poffins in general and there are several pages from concepts originally introduced in the games where an anime screenshot is used as the intro image, some of which I mentioned in my last response. You're still insisting that I'm somehow adding Dawn to that image. I'm not. Blame the animators or even better, get over it. You say it's nothing personal but the simple fact you can't cope with the very presence of Dawn in an image says otherwise. It's beyond me why you're still talking about the Poffin article when the Poffin Case artwork has been sitting there for weeks and I'm cool with it (still don't love it, but not going out of my way to change it). I'm cool with the Meloetta image as well and that's why I did not revert your edit. I had that stitch gathering dust here and I just uploaded it. You found a better image and you uploaded it. That's great! My contributions to the Archives are not on trial here, that's beside the point. We're talking about you replacing good images for petty reasons. | |||
::::On Vulpix: To me the old one looks more appealing. Vulpix's facial expression and the shadow on its tail are just better in my opinion. Plus you can see Vulpix's paws. There's an obsession with replacing good images from older series with images from newer series regardless of if the newer version looks good or not, and that's absurd. [[a:File:Delcatty anime.png|This image]] was once in the anime section for Delcatty. All you can see is Delcatty's head and there are people who think it is better than [[a:File:Dr Abby Delcatty.png|this one]]. You must be one of them, since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Buneary_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2425217&oldid=2425171 you did the exact same thing in another article] (which I'm aware you eventually fixed). My point is, people want to put up images from newer series and they rarely stop to consider if the image is indeed better. There is no point in replacing a good image just because it's old. | |||
::::And with that explanation I now realize we're going in circles here. It's no use bringing more and more images that have nothing to do with our original discussion. Simply put, please don't make unnecessary image replacements. Try to see the context the image is inserted in (Dawn and two Poké Balls with Seals when the topic at hand is customization and the page has Ash calling out Pokémon, Dawn grooming her Swinub in a section that has a big paragraph about Coordinators) before you replace the image for whatever reason (let's pretend Dawn isn't the reason) Thank you! --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 13:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've already explained why I had a problem with that poffin image, if you choose to ignore it that's fine. I only brought it up again because you did in the last post and I wanted to explain why I liked the game art better. But yes, now that we've said our pieces on it, we'll bury the hatchet on it for good. | |||
:::::Okay? I don't know anything about the situation for the Delcatty image or if there really was one. I like how you feel the need to keep assuming things. Yeah the situations are similar, but like you said, I fixed the image a long time ago. | |||
:::::Alright then.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 17:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC) |
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- A reminder, please only use talk pages to suggest improvements not speculation. If you want to speculate, please use the forums.--ForceFire 03:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Apologies, couldn't help but add my opinion about it.-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 15:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
BTW
The e-mail notice would have shown me reverting and coming here, but that was an error as I thought I'd left a message here. I did put it back and reply, so you can reply again if you need to. =) CycloneGU (talk) 23:11, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Braixen
Looks like another image was uploaded over the other one at "Serena Braixen", so I have gone ahead and restored your image to the article. Of course, if other editors disagree, it may or may not stay there, or may be removed over time (particularly if it evolves to Delphox someday), so we will see. CycloneGU (talk) 00:50, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Its vs It's
Just remember the difference between its and it's. It's is the contraction of it is (e.g. It's a Fire-type) whilst its is the possessive form (e.g. Its Fire-type move was powerful). Hope you remember this for future reference, thank you.--ForceFire 13:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- There's also the matter that we spell it Pokémon and not Pokemon (without the é accent), since while the accent is not on an English keyboard, Pokémon is actually the correct spelling over Pokemon. You spelled it Pokemon on the Serena's Eevee article. - PokémonGamer* 14:21, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention that the é accent is on the character palette below the editing box, so you can just use it from there. - PokémonGamer* 14:23, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for the advice both of you (I always confuse it's and its together, I've always been told that adding ' was appropriate) and yes, I know Pokémon has an accent, I just sometimes forget to add it in, sorry! >x< I always seem to forget whenever I upload pictures with Poké in it because the palette isn't there... I'll have to remember that from now on.☆-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 19:30, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention that the é accent is on the character palette below the editing box, so you can just use it from there. - PokémonGamer* 14:23, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Re:Poke Tv
It's shown in reruns, as the original broadcast didn't show it due to an Ash-Greninja prize promotion thing. That's how I got it. - PokémonGamer* 20:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- It turns out you can find the Poké TV's on the Japanese Hulu service. - PokémonGamer* 22:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it appears that I am unable to watch it. Thanks anyway though!-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 21:02, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Language
Excuse me, Handmaiden 101. Do you speak English and Japan? Just wondering.--JasonL (Talk) 00:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Manga moves
Please be sure that when editing articles related to certain Pokemon manga you do not add a move unless it is explicitly called out by someone. Moves are rarely consistent between uses in Pokespe and it is much preferred that we do not assume, even if the move seems obvious. Ataro (talk) 04:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Images
Hi there! I noticed you have been removing several images of Dawn that perfectly fit a page's content and I want to tell you that you should not be doing that just because you don't like a character. Images are used to illustrate our articles and to help people better understand what we're talking about. There's no point in removing or replacing an image that is doing that job unless you have an image that does it better.
It would be okay if the images you add were better, but they're actually worse. The Poké Ball page for instance, I added this image to the anime section along with a few details about how Seals can be used to customize a Poké Ball's appearance. It's a 1280 × 720 image of Dawn calling out her Pokémon that shows two different Seals (which exemplifies the customization aspect mentioned in the article and matches the image of Ash calling out his Pokémon) and you replaced it with a small 320 × 240 image showing only one Seal and the reason you provided to make that change was "I think this works", as if to say the previous image did not work, which isn't true at all.
You also removed that one image of Ash and Dawn from the Triple Battle article with a not-so-good excuse and recently you removed an image of Dawn grooming her Swinub from the Pokémon groomer page for no reason. In a section in which the longest paragraph is about Coordinators grooming their Pokémon, you removed the one image showing a Coordinator doing that. For no reason.
Please I'm kindly asking you, don't let your bias against a character get in the way of contributing to Bulbapedia. If the image is of high quality and if it fits the content of the page, there's no reason to replace it with one showing a character that you prefer. In doing that you're making several images in the Archives go unused, and that's not the goal of the Archives. This renders your edits bad not only for Bulbapedia, but for the Archives as well. --Mikuri 15:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've never said that I didn't like Dawn, but there just seemed to be pictures only from Diamond and Pearl everywhere. The Poke Ball image though, I just felt that a single Poke Ball with a seal in focus instead of two off to the side was better, but I now understand what you were trying to do. It also wasn't the full proper size of 1280x720. About the image for Pokemon groomers, once I found the episode with the image, I was going to replace Brock's image with a better one since it wasn't in the proper size. The Swinub image size is also like that as well. It just showed Dawn hovering over Swinub while Fennekin was physically being groomed. I only took off that image from the triple battle because it was just training they were doing, not an official battle. I wasn't really sure that counted, but never mind I guess.
- If you're saying that I put up "terrible" images, then what about this one? There was absolutely no reason to put this image up, the poffins were barely in focus and for some reason you though it was necessary to include Dawn, who just stood there adding nothing to it. There was already game art for the page that had no problems at all. Also if you're going to talk about "high quality" then unless it can't be helped (e.g. The header image of the groomer page is Suzie, who is the closest thing to being a groomer and because I'm not sure if Brock or any other groomer had been shown recently grooming a Pokemon), then wouldn't images from more recent anime (BW, XY, SM) be better?-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 18:02, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- The article is about Pokémon groomers, i.e. a person who grooms Pokémon. I think an image showing a person grooming a Pokémon is more fitting than one with the Pokémon all alone. About Dawn hovering over Swinub, you can see Swinub's whole body in that image, it's not like Dawn is preventing us to see the Pokémon being groomed. I really don't understand what's your problem with that image other than your bias against Dawn.
- I agree that Poffins aren't front and center in the image you brought up, but that image isn't meant to show how Poffins are depicted in the anime. This one is. And as you can see in the file history I replaced an image of Dawn holding a bowl of Poffins for one with the Poffins alone. I'm not going out of my way to include Dawn in each and every image as you're suggesting.
- I'm not fond of using item artwork in the intro of a page unless it's a page for an item. I think we could always use more visually enticing images than game art of an item against a transparent background so as to avoid boring our readers. I moved the Poffin Case art to the games section so we weren't missing out on anything. I uploaded a stitch of Dawn's Pokémon happily eating Poffins together because I think it's more interesting. But I wasn't trying to shoehorn Dawn in the intro of a page. There are several pages where the intro image is an image that was uploaded by me and they do not feature Dawn. See Ash and Alain in Pokémon battle, Brock in baby Pokémon and Pokémon food, Valerie in type expert, Zoey in fishing...
- About images from more recent series being preferred, that depends. It's difficult to find high quality screenshots from the original series, and if they can be replaced to screenshots from, say, Best Wishes, they should. But there are so many beautiful images from the Advanced Generation and the Diamond & Pearl series scattered around the wiki that don't need replacement. See Pokémon League Conference and the anime section of Pokémon Egg for reference. These images are fine and there's no need to replace them. --Mikuri 23:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Like I said, I thought the image of a Pokemon (Fennekin) being physically groomed was better than the other one where it wasn't (Swinub). The only problem I have with Dawn there is because she is just hovering over Swinub with the brush, that's it. Please stop implying that I don't like her, it's nothing personal or anything. Plus, there's the issue with replacing an image with the correct dimensions (1280X720) and its quality in comparison.
- The game art shows a spicy sour poffin and a mild poffin, and within the case, two foul poffins and a dry poffin, while in the anime, they're only seen as pink. Since some things are shown differently in the anime in comparison to the games (poffins do nothing in the anime while in the games, they raise the conditions of a Pokemon), wouldn't it make more sense to show how they are originally seen? The article is mainly about a poffin's depiction in the games anyway. I really don't know if that image makes the page more interesting, since they're just crowding over the bowl. Also, why add Dawn there too? She's just standing there. It's the same with the sick Meloetta image. Ash wasn't doing anything there at all which is why I replaced it.
- If there was an image from a more recent series of the anime that has higher quality than the other, wouldn't you update it? In comparison of the older series to the newer, I'd say that images for certain things are more enticing than before, which is why I wanted to change the Vulpix image in the anime with this one. In comparison, which looks more appealing?-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 06:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- You won't find screenshots from episodes prior to The Lonely Snover! in a 16:9 aspect ratio unless they have been cropped. The Swinub image cannot be 1280 × 720 and there's nothing wrong with it. Its dimensions aren't incorrect. Again, the page is about the person who grooms, not the act of grooming. Your image isn't better just because the brush is physically touching Fennekin. I think we can all infer what Dawn is doing with a brush on her hand.
- I explained why I changed the intro image in the Poffin article in my last message and I was perfectly clear. If you did not understand, try reading it again. The article is about Poffins in general and there are several pages from concepts originally introduced in the games where an anime screenshot is used as the intro image, some of which I mentioned in my last response. You're still insisting that I'm somehow adding Dawn to that image. I'm not. Blame the animators or even better, get over it. You say it's nothing personal but the simple fact you can't cope with the very presence of Dawn in an image says otherwise. It's beyond me why you're still talking about the Poffin article when the Poffin Case artwork has been sitting there for weeks and I'm cool with it (still don't love it, but not going out of my way to change it). I'm cool with the Meloetta image as well and that's why I did not revert your edit. I had that stitch gathering dust here and I just uploaded it. You found a better image and you uploaded it. That's great! My contributions to the Archives are not on trial here, that's beside the point. We're talking about you replacing good images for petty reasons.
- On Vulpix: To me the old one looks more appealing. Vulpix's facial expression and the shadow on its tail are just better in my opinion. Plus you can see Vulpix's paws. There's an obsession with replacing good images from older series with images from newer series regardless of if the newer version looks good or not, and that's absurd. This image was once in the anime section for Delcatty. All you can see is Delcatty's head and there are people who think it is better than this one. You must be one of them, since you did the exact same thing in another article (which I'm aware you eventually fixed). My point is, people want to put up images from newer series and they rarely stop to consider if the image is indeed better. There is no point in replacing a good image just because it's old.
- And with that explanation I now realize we're going in circles here. It's no use bringing more and more images that have nothing to do with our original discussion. Simply put, please don't make unnecessary image replacements. Try to see the context the image is inserted in (Dawn and two Poké Balls with Seals when the topic at hand is customization and the page has Ash calling out Pokémon, Dawn grooming her Swinub in a section that has a big paragraph about Coordinators) before you replace the image for whatever reason (let's pretend Dawn isn't the reason) Thank you! --Mikuri 13:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've already explained why I had a problem with that poffin image, if you choose to ignore it that's fine. I only brought it up again because you did in the last post and I wanted to explain why I liked the game art better. But yes, now that we've said our pieces on it, we'll bury the hatchet on it for good.
- Okay? I don't know anything about the situation for the Delcatty image or if there really was one. I like how you feel the need to keep assuming things. Yeah the situations are similar, but like you said, I fixed the image a long time ago.
- Alright then.-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 17:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)