Talk:Animals in the Pokémon world

Hasn't anyone ever noticed that...

...the times when a this-world animal is depicted somehow in the Pokémon universe, it is for a good reason? For example, the Dex entries (which are all listed in the game) could be intentional, giving us (as players) a means of reference, as we, for example, can't really compare with the thickness of a Hippowdon's hide (that was only an example). Many of the usages of our animals alongside Pokémon are used because there is no Pokémon equivalent of the animal discovered yet. Some problems might have just been accidental in addition. These are all just ideas that I've been working on. They are not by any means official, just my 2 Pokéyen (?). --TruePikachu 06:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Bird Keeper Sprite

Are we sure that the bird on the Generation I Bird Keeper's arm isn't supposed to be a Pidgey? Because the Pokémon Stadium JP sprite for the Bird Keeper very clearly shows a Pidgey on the Bird Keeper's arm. Phantom♫Junkie 23:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I was just ABOUT to say the same thing. I say we remove that piece of trivia because of what PhantomJunkie says, the sprite looks (loosely) like a Pidgey in the Generation I Bird Keeper. Masatoshi talk ^contribs 01:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Shoal Shell and Sea shells.

Shouldn't there be some mention that Shells, which comes from animals, exist in the Pokémon Universe? One Example is the Shoal Shell, which comes from an unidentified animal source. I also vaguely remember in the Orange League someone mentioning the badges were locally harvested shells. I might be wrong since its been years since I saw the episodes. Yamitora1 14:19, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Old Mandibuzz

An old guy in Lillycove City says "I feel like an old Buzzard" or something like that... Should tis be added to the "games" section? - unsigned comment from Mamutepeq (talk • contribs)

Bear Bag

In BW047 a girl was wearing a bag with bear face! The little girl with her mom TheSeviper ♫ハブネーク♫ 21:12, 25 August 2012 (GMT)

Should Dub edits be allowed to count?

Should Dub Edits be allowed. The article mentions Muskrat Meatballs, but that is a Dub only thing. They were actually Dungo. and Meowth compares his voice to one of the chipmunks after inhaling a gas coming from a tank, which is more of an Americanized pop culture reference than to an actual animal Yamitora1 (talk) 04:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

-I was the one that added that. Perhaps a note that it was only mentioned in the dub would be a good idea, but I think that they should be left in, if only so that someone coming along later that doesn't know that they might not count for this reason doesn't add them back in. Besides, there is a precedent: the article Pokémon world in relation to the real world mentions the fact that the English, Swedish, Danish, and Finnish dubs of Mewtwo Strikes Back all make a reference to real-world places that wasn't in the original Japanese version. Why should that be left in, but muskrat meatballs be taken out? The circumstances are nearly identical. -TBustah (talk) 11:36 PM, March 30, 2015 Pacific

Needing more contribution

What needs more information here? InMooseWeTrust (talk) 15:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, It would help if we know which Pokémon have mention of Real world animals in their dexes. I know Pidgey and Spearow are two examples that I haven't gotten to putting in the article yet (If I remember correctly). Yamitora1 (talk) 20:17, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Real Horse in Pikachu Short

A friend and I recently noticed this depiction of a real horse in the Pikachu and Pichu Bros. short. Would this go in the anime section?[1] --Meepinator (talk) 08:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that would be considered a reference to animals in the Pokémon world in the anime, so it does go in the anime section. ㄱ쉰 G50 09:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Butterflies in battle on Route 21

Ok, so I'm training a Japanese 5IV Charizard on Route 21 so that I can breed it. Anyways, I was fighting Spindas when I noticed in the background a repeating yellow Butterfly. Has anyone else notice this butterfly? Yamitora1 (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Which Route 21? --Wynd Fox 19:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Kalos, Spinda hordes only show up in XY on Kalos' route 21. Yamitora1 (talk) 11:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Seaking card

I believe the pink on the Jungle Seaking is another instance of coral. The yellow could be interpreted as coral or plant life. --GARY-DOS (talk) 04:41, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Real animals

There's apparently a list of things like this. Eridanus (talk) 11:07, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Giraffe?

Ok, this is quite minor/random, but if you zoom into the centre-right near where the paths and shrubbery are, there appears to be a statue of a giraffe. Maybe it's not clear enough to be sure, but it looks like a giraffe in my eyes. :S Even if it was, would it be notable enough to add? :) --Wowy_(토크) 07:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Honestly I don't see it... maybe try saving an offsite version with it circled Wowy? --Spriteit (talk) 09:35, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Haha, maybe it's just my eyes. :P I was just putting it out there in case someone agreed but it's probably too blurry to be notable/too speculative. But if you're interested, it's due north of the Poké Ball tiles on the pavement..--Wowy_(토크) 09:58, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

If you're talking about the set of orange-ish flowers by the palm tress and pack of people on the top center-right-ish of the building, then no. It's just a bunch of flowers, the only reason it would look like it's standing up is because of the perspective of the view.--ForceFire 10:02, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Butterflies in XY

Can someone put an image of the butterflies that appear in background? Trainer Yusuf (talk) 20:27, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Animals in the Pokemon world originally going to have a major role

According to this: http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/pm_lord_unknown_tower_entei/lord_unknown_tower_entei_mythical_third_movie.html the third movie was going to involve a t-rex that came to life from a fossil. Why isn't this information added here?--ThePokeDigiFan (talk) 01:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Mosquito in Old Amber

Old Amber artwork from Pokémon Red and Green

Isn't figure that fact here? --HoopsterJohn (talk) 03:51, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Confusion status animation

The little chicks/birds that appear during the confusion status over the Pokémon's head couldn't be considered as real world animals? Brlarini (talk) 01:18, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Safe to say that animals were retconned.

The official product approval manual states they don't exist in the Pokemon world. --Master Lucario (talk) 20:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Get along, little Pokemon

Real animals get mentioned in the episode "Get along, little Pokemon"

Ethan calls Number 6 his "black sheep" and later, Jessie call Ethan a "cowpoke".

--Squirtle Gardevoir (talk) 12:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

"Convergent Evolution" of Categories/Colloquialisms

I used to consider instances of words like "cat" and "dog" to be examples of the implication of real-world animals, but most of these do not actually refer to a single species (and in the case of "crab" for example, may not even refer to a single group of related species) - rather, they are qualitative groupings, even in our world including mythical creatures of non-earthly origin alongside real ones, so it's not intrinsically a statement that the animal described is real/biological either. Who's to say that in the Pokémon world, these terms didn't arise to describe qualitative groupings of Pokémon species instead?
What I mean is - Pikachu is not "the electric Mus musculus pokemon", the existence of a term applied generally to many species of small rodents does not necessitate the existence of Mus musculus or other actual, real mouse species in the Pokémon world if the simpler explanation is that groupings of Pikachu with similar species originated the term instead. Unless someone says Canis lupus familiaris, they're using a term that includes bush dogs, raccoon dogs, African wild dogs, prairie dogs (not a canid), Cerberus (birthed by two non-canine monsters), hellhounds (of varying origin and biology, some depicted as spirits that were never necessarily alive/corporeal), and so on. I don't see what makes the word so specific to our world, our, real "dogs", when it just qualitatively including Arcanine and Fidough - arising to describe them and similar-looking species instead - seems simpler.
I think references of this scale should not automatically be placed on the list, though I'm not sure what criterion I'd propose as specific/intrinsic enough to warrant inclusion ("Indian elephant" certainly is, though, hence it being amended/retconned where instances of words like "cat" and "mouse" have not been purged from canon or corrected) so perhaps a distinct section for inferred examples would work? Anomalie (talk) 08:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

While I get what you're saying, I do think that the most straightforward assumption is that these words do not have a separate meaning/origin than they do in the real world. As you said, when talking about "mice" or "dogs", it is instantly clear to us what we're talking about, even without explicitly being aware of "we're not talking about a species but a grouping" etc.; I would assume that's the common implicit knowledge that the Pokédex presumes its reader to know, too.

Saying that it's "hinting" (but not definitely confirming) that real mice exist, for example, seems to be reasonable to me. Nescientist (talk) 11:10, 15 April 2023 (UTC)