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Is this saying with Loaded Dice, one accuracy check is performed and if this fails, the move hits 4 times. If it passes, the move hits between 1-6 more times (at random, like most multi-strike moves such as Fury Attack/Swipes)? It would be nice to know how the number of strikes between four and ten is determined with Loaded Dice, if this is known at this time. | Is this saying with Loaded Dice, one accuracy check is performed and if this fails, the move hits 4 times. If it passes, the move hits between 1-6 more times (at random, like most multi-strike moves such as Fury Attack/Swipes)? It would be nice to know how the number of strikes between four and ten is determined with Loaded Dice, if this is known at this time. | ||
One accuracy check is preformed to determine if the attack hits or misses, if the attack is a hit then the move will decide to hit either 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 times.[[User:HenryWong122|HenryWong122]] ([[User talk:HenryWong122|talk]]) 02:38, 27 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Why is the translated name “Proliferation?” == | |||
As stated in the Trivia section, the Japanese name of this move (nezumizan) translates to either Mouse Mathematics or Mouse Cut. So why is the translated version of the name in the info box “Proliferation”? It may mean a similar-ish thing, but it removes the meaningfulness of the phrase. Since the phrase is explained in Trivia, I don’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to use it. [[User:HopHoppipHarvest|HopHoppipHarvest]] ([[User talk:HopHoppipHarvest|talk]]) 22:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Wrong math == | |||
I think that the math used to calculate the accuracy is wrong. For 1 to 9 hits, the math used doesn't assume every hit is consecutive. It takes into consideration that misses can be within the combo, which can't happen. The math should be to multiply 90% by the number of hits. Hitting 7 times in a row would be 0.9^7 or about 47.83%. This is how 10 hits in a row is calculated, too, giving it its accurate 34.87% chance. [[User:Zecke|Zecke]] ([[User talk:Zecke|talk]]) 02:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I may be wrong on some things but the numbers just don't make sense to me. [[User:Zecke|Zecke]] ([[User talk:Zecke|talk]]) 02:24, 19 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
:A friend of mine discovered [https://trevorsquires.com/assets/content/pop_bomb_calculations.pdf a paper by Trevor Squires] concerning the probabilities of PB. After going over this with friends who are much better at math that I am, this does check out as a ~31% chance for all 10 hits with the average amount of hits being 5-6. [[User:Helix.OS|helix.OS]] ([[User talk:Helix.OS|talk]]) 22:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 22:03, 11 April 2024
If the target uses Endure it will survive all 10 hits with 1 HP.HenryWong122 (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Clarification for Population Bomb + Loaded Dice
Currently: "Each of Population Bomb's strikes has a separate accuracy check. If any strike fails, the move ends. If the user is holding Loaded Dice, only one accuracy check is performed, and it will hit between four and ten times."
Is this saying with Loaded Dice, one accuracy check is performed and if this fails, the move hits 4 times. If it passes, the move hits between 1-6 more times (at random, like most multi-strike moves such as Fury Attack/Swipes)? It would be nice to know how the number of strikes between four and ten is determined with Loaded Dice, if this is known at this time.
One accuracy check is preformed to determine if the attack hits or misses, if the attack is a hit then the move will decide to hit either 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 times.HenryWong122 (talk) 02:38, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Why is the translated name “Proliferation?”
As stated in the Trivia section, the Japanese name of this move (nezumizan) translates to either Mouse Mathematics or Mouse Cut. So why is the translated version of the name in the info box “Proliferation”? It may mean a similar-ish thing, but it removes the meaningfulness of the phrase. Since the phrase is explained in Trivia, I don’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to use it. HopHoppipHarvest (talk) 22:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Wrong math
I think that the math used to calculate the accuracy is wrong. For 1 to 9 hits, the math used doesn't assume every hit is consecutive. It takes into consideration that misses can be within the combo, which can't happen. The math should be to multiply 90% by the number of hits. Hitting 7 times in a row would be 0.9^7 or about 47.83%. This is how 10 hits in a row is calculated, too, giving it its accurate 34.87% chance. Zecke (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I may be wrong on some things but the numbers just don't make sense to me. Zecke (talk) 02:24, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- A friend of mine discovered a paper by Trevor Squires concerning the probabilities of PB. After going over this with friends who are much better at math that I am, this does check out as a ~31% chance for all 10 hits with the average amount of hits being 5-6. helix.OS (talk) 22:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
