Talk:Gary Oak

Game data

Should Gary's game data be here or under "Blue_(game)"? --Meowth346

Dub only line

"Gary has an attitude of catch first, ask questions later, as seen in It's Mr. Mime Time."

I recall hearing this in the dub; is it a dub only line? --Paperfairy

Gary's Electabuzz?

How do we know that his Electivire evolved from Electabuzz? Where's the proof? --☆ケンジガール 05:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

well the only way to get an electrivire is to evolve a electabbuzz by tradin with electrizer but im not sure if it applies to the anime Ritchie

Old comment!--KukiTalk 22:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

And obviously, Evolving in the anime is WAY different that in games. Slopoke -> Slowbro for example.--Tavisource 22:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Also misty getting her Politoed→→→ Shiny Rayquaza 13:31, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

about his pokemon...

Look, I know the Jr. novelizations of pokemon aren't exactly canon with the pokemon series and all that, but didn't they mention Gary also having a Charizard and a Venusaur in addition to his Blastoise in the book "Stage fight"? I mean, sure, that book might not have been canon (It mentioned Ash's Pidgeot still being under his command despite his releasing it right after it evolved and defeated Fearow), but shouldn't it at least be worth noting in at least the Trivia section? just wondering.

~~Weedle Mchairybug~~

If we note that, then we'd also have to note the Charizard he toted in the Robot Chicken sketch "Pikachu Secret", from the episode Cracked China. --Shiningpikablu252 21:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Those books were basically authorized fanfiction. It's non-canon, so it shouldn't be mentioned. --PAK Man ^Talk 23:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Gary's Status

I remember that Gary used to be a trainer, but he stop to be a pokemon researcher, I'm not sure which region, but here was even in Pokemon Housou/ Chronicles as such, shouldn't his status change from trainer to professor or something? - Gaiden 03:24, 07 October 2007 (UTC)

Technically now he's not yet Professor Oak the younger, because he hasn't been seen to get whatever one needs... and has no labcoat. He's on his way... but I don't think he's a professor yet. TTEchidna 20:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't that he is a Rivel of Ash anymore , I think that Paul is more of Rivel than Gary.

Pokemon157 5:34, 08 October 2007

Paul's more of an asshat than Gary now, yes, but Gary and Ash are still rivals, though on more friendly terms. TTEchidna 19:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Temporary

Do we really need the temporary section in the page? This is Gary we're talking about, not Max. JmathTalk 17:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

He didn't keep the Hoothoot, Aerodactyl, or Shieldon. Thus, we need that Temporary section. --Shiningpikablu252 18:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Its just like Max. He just befriended them and he never caught them. Hoothoot was just rented. That doesn't mean you own it. JmathTalk 18:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Gary's Appearance

I'm not sure if this is valid but, aside from the fact that he has the same voice actor, but he also wears the same clothing as the video game, in the Kanto series of Pokemon he wore the same thing or at least a strong look-a-like of his game counterpart, in the rest of the series (from the point of Pokemon: FireRed and LeafGreen) Gary changes to a black shirt and purple pants, I believe that ever since that time and the fact that his character was not designed to wear new clothing, that he still looks the way he is in Diamond and Pearl Series

Also, Ash, Brock and Misty changes their clothing during each arc, this is just something i felt i need to being to notice, if you already know this sorry. - Gaiden 07:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Gary's design during the Gen I/II era of the anime (AKA, the original series in its entirety) was based off of Blue's Red/Blue art. During the Gen III/IV era (the Advance Generation and Diamond & Pearl series), his design's based off of Blue's FireRed/LeafGreen art. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 04:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

When did Gary wear a kimono? Mooites 17:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

When the original trio was looking for a place to stay in Season 1 but... I 4get wich eppy!--KukiTalk 17:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Riddle Me This if I remember correctly. Let me just check. ^Moldy_Orange 18:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

yep ^Moldy_Orange 18:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Where'd u find it?--KukiTalk 18:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I just pulled the episode out of storage and watched it to see if it was correct. ^Moldy_Orange 18:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Houndoom?

When did Gary get a Houndoom?C Is for Cookie

Well according to here, he never batteled with it, but it was seen on a computer with his profile in The Ties that Bind. --Theryguy512 20:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit

Could a mod please change the EP001 in trivia to Pokémon, I Choose You!? Porygon-Z 17:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Trivia question

Seeing as May's Eevee has evolved, should it really be mentioned as a counterpart to Gary's Umbreon? If a Pokémon is really needed for the sake of comparison, might I suggest adding her Wartortle to the part mentioning Gary's Blastoise and Ash's Squirtle? Eeveeman133 18:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

It might have been a counterpart, but May hasn't actually ever met Gary...so, I don't think it would be. ^Moldy_Orange 19:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Dodrio

How do we know Dodrio is in storage or not on hand? SinceIts last appearance it hasnt been comented on so we dont know where it is, maybe status unknown?--David Aipom (Speaks To Me):] Sonic Electronic 20:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Badges

According to EP063, Gary says that he has 10 badges. He shows his badge case to Ash, and it clearly shows 10 badges. Change the number? Forretress205 21:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

That means he got 4 more badges after EP025. Not 4 in total! Jmath 21:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

EP013

EP013 shows the images of all of Gary's caught Pokémon on the background screen. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post. ^ht14 20:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can remember only Gary's Krabby was shown. Jmath 20:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

See here: a:File:Bill.jpg More than JUST Krabby... ^ht14 20:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Those aren't Gary's Pokémon. That's just Bill describing the known Pokémon. Gary wasn't even mentioned in this part. --ケンジのガール 20:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

As you can see, the are in Pokédex order. --ケンジのガール 20:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm REALLY sure that there was a time where he was talking about the amount Gary had in comparison to the amount Ash had (7)... ^ht14 20:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, when he was talking to Professor Oak. I remember this seen. A list of all 150 (though I don't know how its possible because no one knew about Dragonite or Mewtwo) flashed on the screen when Bill was talking about how there could be many more. --ケンジのガール 21:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh... ^ht14 21:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, they DID know about Dragonite, that scene with the giant Dragonite was just because it was enormous, not because they didn't know what it was. If they didn't know about Dragonite, then how could the guy in the Orange League have one?(Moot point, but still.)Kiryu 20:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

It's called a retcon or inconsistency. And if they had known about Dragonite as a species, why didn't Bill mention that the mystery Pokémon was one? And don't tell me that Bill didn't realize the Pokémon's species due to never getting to fully see it, he had recorded the Pokémon's cry. He SHOULD have realized the Pokémon was a Dragonite by listening to its cry. Spideym 04:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Gary's pokemon

Of course we can't add pages of ALL of Gary's pokemon, as he has literally millions XD

Anyways, I believe we should make pages of the ones he's battled with, such as his Scizor and Golem he used in Can't beat the heat. I mean we have a page for his Nidoqueen, who only appeared in two episodes, so why not them? -- 050294 02:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Apparently, one cannot count...look at moveset. It appeared the ep afterwards. ^ht14 02:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

However, see here. Vote and decide for self. ^ht14 02:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Removal of unsatisfactory tag !!!

I have replaced "Gary's collection of Kanto badges" image because it was in unsatisfactory. This is my kind request to administrators, please check out the new image and if you like it then remove the unsatisfactory tag over it. Along with that i have replaced another image in "Pokédex" article (1st image of the article) because the previous image was also in unsatisfactory. I want to remove that unsatisfactory template myself but i don't no whether we are allowed to remove that template or an administrator can do this job only. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 05:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone can remove a bad picture template... --ケンジのガール 05:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh thank you very much. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 06:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Confused

In the article, it said that in "A Tents Situation", Gary came to Pallet, and challenged Ash to a battle (Eevee vs. Pikachu) and won. Didn't the battle happen in "A Rivalry Revival?" * (I'm now using star to refer to my old thingy.) Garyplusash 20:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

According to the "Main events" scetion in the episode pages, Gary challenged Ash (or vice versa) in A Tents Situation, but the battle didn't happen untill A Rivalry Revival. Both you and the article are right. User:Werdnae (talk) 21:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Current Pic

Is that what his hair looks like now, or is that a bad angle? Because he looks completely different than he used to... so i was wondering if that was just a bad pic (and if so, can we get a better one?) or if he really just changed THAT much CherryParanoia 07:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with the image. But still, i will try to search a better image (if possible). --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 09:26, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with the image. Don't change it at all unless you find a pan shot. As for his appearance, he's looked like that since AG192. They gave him the appearance of Blue in FRLG. --ケンジのガール 17:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 06:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, so he DID just change a lot. Because his hair is completely different in that picture, and i've seen some shots online in which his hair has the original style (but the new color). If i find them again, should i upload them here? CherryParanoia 20:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with his hairs. It is just a shady look. Checkout gary's old picture and new one, there is a slight (a little) difference and that is because of shade (i think). --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 03:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

It's nothing about the shade. It's the fact his hair looks more like Brock's in the picture. Like, it's not long enough in the front and everything. Thats why i thought it was just a bad shot. If his hair is still long in the front, then we need a new pic. If he's gotten a complete renovation... then it's fine. CherryParanoia 16:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's fine. If we want more info about it then we have to wait for Gary's next appearance. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 06:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Latest trivia

"Gary is the only main rival not to have at least one Grass-type Pokémon."

What exactly qualifies as a "main rival"? I would consider both Ritchie and Zoey as main rivals and they don't have Grass-types. Or was this person just talking about Ash's regular rivals? Gary, Paul, and Barry. Cause if that's it, then it's not really notable. I think it should be removed on the of either it's not notable due to Ash's lack of regular rivals or that it isn't true as Zoey is very much a regular rival and does not have a Grass-type. --ケンジのガール 20:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, Paul, Barry and Gary are the rivals to appear the most but Ritchie also appears a lot. I wouldn't say that there is any main rivals, except Gary, and he isn't even really a rival any more. Solar Dragon 20:10, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Recently added Trivia

Gary is the only main rival not to have at least one Grass-type Pokémon.

Who counts as a "main rival"? If we are just counting Ash's rivals, then there are only two "main" rivals - Gary and Paul. If we count Barry then we should probably count Richie, who doesn't have any grass types. If we are counting Contest rivals then Zoey doesn't have any grass types. If we really are just counting Gary, Paul and Barry, then is it really notable, especially given that the following are also true: Gary doesn't have a fighting type, Barry doesn't have a ground type, rock type, fire type or Dark type, while Paul is the only one with an Ice type and Gary is the only one with a dragon type. Werdnae (talk) 20:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

We were just talking about this. See above. Solar Dragon 20:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I removed it already. It's untrue. --ケンジのガール 20:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Or at least a very bad piece of trivia as we could go through them all, as Werdnae said, and place them all up. It is just pointless so it was best to remove it. Solar Dragon 20:25, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)(edit conflict) I saw that just after I hit "Save Page". I guess that's what happens when I try to do two things at once :P Werdnae (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Birthday?

Didn't he and Ash both start their journey on there 10th birthday? If so, it should be put in the trivia that he and Ash both have the same birthday. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 22:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC) Kimori-Hinoarashi

I think the anime said that Oak gives out his Pokémon once a year. I also think the "starting at 10" thing comes from the games, while in the anime trainers can get their license to be a trainer at 10. I think... The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 23:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Dodrio

Are we sure that the Dodrio that Gary has is the same Doduo he had at Oak's lab? I mean, in that episode, Gary was revealed to have over 200 Pokémon, implying most if not ALL non-legendaries known at the time, as well as multiples of some of them. Therefore, it is possible, nay, likely, that this Dodrio and that Doduo are not the same Pokémon. Unless I missed something, of course. Gary never identified this Dodrio as the Doduo from Showdown at the Po-Ke Corral, did he? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 20:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Gary's eye color

For future reference, because I have seen people reverting it back to black, it IS green and there is proof on Puds' talk page [1]

Hopefully this will resolve the little edit wars we seem to be getting in.—♥ Jello 22:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Gary's badge case

I was wondering if his badge case was the first badge case shown by a main character and brought the possibility of having badge cases in future seasons?--Pokemon26 19:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Surname?

Just being curious, does anybody ever say that Gary's surname is Oak? Krisi 10:52, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. I can't give you an exact episode number, but yes. They've said his full name before. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 11:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay then. Just because I couldn't remember a single instance, and I was assuming that people ony say his surname is Oak, because, you know, Prof. Oak is his grandfather... But you know, if the professor was his mother's father, Gary's surname would probably be something else. Except is somehow both ot his parents are called Oak. Krisi 02:23, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

eye color again

The picture above shows it to be green, so why is it listed as black?--Elveonora (talk) 21:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

flashback confusion

Sometime during the Advanced Generation series (or so at least I think, I might be wrong), I recall Ash having a flashback about his meeting with Gary in some snowy area. I'm almost positive to had seen all episodes, movies and side story episodes up to that point, but I don't recall that particular scene in any of them. Did that happen in one of the Pikachu short stories or not at all and I'm just imagining things? I hope someone knows what I'm talking about. EDIT: could be from AG187--Elveonora (talk) 22:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Bump--Elveonora (talk) 12:02, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Return of Gary Oak

Anybody can confirm me that Gary is going to make an appearance in XY series, I have heard recently many times he is going to make an appearance as he also attended the summer camp.......is there any official info ??!--Viv (talk) 04:53, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• There is none. The forum has a thread about it though, so feel free to discuss it there :) Mooites (talk) 04:54, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Gary Oak's Mother

We've seen Gary's mom a few times driving around their convertible that Gary is in with his cheerleaders/fans/girlfriends. But I see no page or mention of her. Why not? I think it's important to know who Samuel Oak's daughter is, either in the games (canon) or anime/mangas.

- unsigned comment from Mcheetah (talk • contribs)

Also, does his cheerleader group of six fans from seasons one and two have names?

- unsigned comment from Mcheetah (talk • contribs)

Do you have any proof that that's Gary's mother? Just because she's driving doesn't mean she his mother. It could just be one of the cheerleaders who is old enough to drive. And the cheerleaders were never given names.--ForceFire 04:02, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

That Ash & Gary history trivia with AG086 and the first episode

I can’t help but feel that the placement should be reversed. And also it disregards the flashbacks during the Silver Conference of the split Poké Ball, which already indicated they’d known each other beforehand--KnightGalarie (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Umbreon

Why is Umbreon "status unknown"? Was there said something about it, or we just always assume a Pokemon disappears if it doesn't show up?--Rocket Grunt 17:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't know, I think it was easier to put him on Pokemon that are with Professor Oak. I mean, it's not the first time he's left Umbreon in his grandfather's care.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 17:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

If a pokémon appears with its trainer and is then missing in said trainer's next appearance with no explanation whatsoever, we simply say that we just don't know what happened to the pokémon. It could've been stored somewhere, been traded away, died, been given away, been abandoned, etc.. The point is that we have no idea and have no reason to assume any explanation over any other. Pale Prism (talk) 23:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Don't reply if you don't know the answer and pretend you do.--Rocket Grunt 11:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Pale Prism's response is the general gist of it. If a Trainer doesn't use a Pokemon it had in their party from the last time they appeared, then that Pokémon status is unknown. Umbreon could still be with Gary, or it could be at Oak's lab. It could also be released, but that's on the extreme end of speculation. We will not guess where Umbreon currently is.--ForceFire 11:54, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

But given what we've seen in Pokémon Journeys, doesn't that set a complicated precedent? I mean, Iris hasn't mentioned at any point what situation Excadrill and Gible are in, Brock hasn't even shown half of his Pokémon in the Alola episodes(Croagnuk, for example, his last appearance was in Best Wishes) Misty too, and I don't think we're going to get a glimpse of what the Dawn's current team is doing either. If we go this way, a lot will have to be done in this style. I'm not disagreeing, I just want to understand.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 14:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Why's that complicated, exactly? It's an accurate description of all of the information that we have. A pokémon's there in one episode and isn't there in a future episode, with no explanation as to why. Ergo, "status unknown". Also, Team Rocket Grunt, buddy, I wasn't "pretending" to know the answer. I was simply going off of the precedent set by other anime character articles. Pale Prism (talk) 22:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)