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[[Image:Toxicroak-anime.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Current Image]][[Image:ToxicroakdarkPulse.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Proposed Image]]
==Head Image?==
[[:a:File:Toxicroak-anime.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Current Image]]<br>[[:a:File:ToxicroakdarkPulse.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Proposed Image]]<br>
All right. Who thinks the image on the article should be changed to something better? This pic has a Toxicroak in a weird pose and the background just makes it all the more creepier. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 06:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
All right. Who thinks the image on the article should be changed to something better? This pic has a Toxicroak in a weird pose and the background just makes it all the more creepier. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 06:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:Change with what? [[User: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#0000ff;">tc</span>''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#2929fb;">2</span>''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''<span style="color:#4b4bf8;">6</span>''']] 06:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:Change with what? [[User: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#0000ff;">tc</span>''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#2929fb;">2</span>''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''<span style="color:#4b4bf8;">6</span>''']] 06:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::These would be the two images in question (I added them to appear beside this topic), I would have to believe due to the history of the article. I believe the proposed image looks much better, as the current image has Toxicroak in a very strange pose. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''Kogoro'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''Talk to me'''</span>]] '''|''' 06:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::These would be the two images in question (I added them to appear beside this topic), I would have to believe due to the history of the article. I believe the proposed image looks much better, as the current image has Toxicroak in a very strange pose. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''Kogoro'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''Talk to me'''</span>]] '''|''' 06:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::The present pic is still not that good. Toxicroak is in shadow and it doesn't take most of the pic. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 06:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::The present pic is still not that good. Toxicroak is in shadow and it doesn't take most of the pic. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 06:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I vote for the proposed image. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 09:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Toxicroak is ''supposed'' to look "creepy". I say no change. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 15:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Why in the world does Toxicroak have to look creepy? [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 16:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
{{Indent}} Because that's how Toxicroak are. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 00:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Toxicroak may appear to be "creepy" but it doesn't need an image that makes it look malformed. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''Kogoro'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''Talk to me'''</span>]] '''|''' 00:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I've put both images on now. Hopefully the problem is now solved. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 00:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Thing is, it doesn't really solve anything. This is a discussion of what picture is better for the '''head image'''. Plus, this article is quite small right now, and having a head image and a second image is possibly too much at this time. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''Kogoro'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''Talk to me'''</span>]] '''|''' 02:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Seriously, what exactly is so bad about using both images? Just because the article is small, it doesn't mean that we can only use one image. There's still more text than images. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 03:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::That matter about the pic has to be really decided. I thought the Dark Pulse pic was already agreed on, but apparently the disagreement is still there. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 22:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I like tc26's (I spelled it in lowercase 'cause that's how how spells it in his signatiure) picture better. It shows Toxicroak's full body. The Dark Pulse picture only shows its arms/hands, head, neck, and the top of its stomach. --[[user:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">Cho</span>]][[user talk:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">col</span>]][[special:contributions/chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">ate</span>]] 20:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
== Gender ==
If Toxicroak is a female in the games, then don't you think it's also female in the anime? I know what you're thinking, "But Toxicroak wasn't shiny in the games either," but, come on, I'm sure the genders are still the same. I just want to get some feed back before I change it.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 01:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:Different cannons, possibly different genders. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 01:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, but the anime DOES NOT always follow the games!!! Why was Ash able to carry [[Hippopotas (anime)|a Hippopotas]] on his head in the anime if it ways 101 pounds in the game??? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">512</span>]]''' 01:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, but this article is about Saturn's Toxicroak, a Pokémon that appears in the animé ''and'' the games. If we have all of [[Brock]]'s animé-only relatives in his infobox, with a disclaimer, I don't get why we shouldn't put this Toxicroak's gender with a disclaimer too, sort of like [[Roark's Rampardos]]'s page does it. In fact, this page used to have that (I know, I put it there), but now I notice it's been taken away... '''[[User:Memo326|<span style="color:#151B8D;">Memo</span>]]'''<i>[[User talk:Memo326|<sup><span style="color:#8D38C9;">326</span></sup>]]</i> 05:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, maybe we could put something like "Female (cofirmed in games only)"--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 13:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
==Image==
I think we need a new image, Because we should have it's full body from the anime. [[User:ReaNintendo|ReaNintendo]] 17:35, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
== Adventures ==
I just wondered about the possibility that Saturn's Toxicroak in the Advantures manga could have evolved from the Croagunk he used earlier. It had the correct gender, and used Poison Jab as well. And we know how usually those manga Pokémon evolved, so could it be sure enough to be added here? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
==Color in Journeys==
Is it worth mentioning that the new artwork styles and colors in Journeys make Saturn's Toxicroak's color much closer to a normal Toxicroak's color in the games? [[User:Arceus101|Arceus101]] ([[User talk:Arceus101|talk]]) 16:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
:Sure. Which artwork do you mean?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 16:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:22, 28 October 2022

Head Image?

thumb|right|150px|Current Image
thumb|right|150px|Proposed Image
All right. Who thinks the image on the article should be changed to something better? This pic has a Toxicroak in a weird pose and the background just makes it all the more creepier. Jmath 06:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Change with what? tc26 06:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
There was another pic that was there in the page awhile back. I think it was much better than this. Jmath 06:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
These would be the two images in question (I added them to appear beside this topic), I would have to believe due to the history of the article. I believe the proposed image looks much better, as the current image has Toxicroak in a very strange pose. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 06:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
The present pic is still not that good. Toxicroak is in shadow and it doesn't take most of the pic. Jmath 06:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I vote for the proposed image. --Kyoufu Kawa 09:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Toxicroak is supposed to look "creepy". I say no change. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 15:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Why in the world does Toxicroak have to look creepy? Jmath 16:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Because that's how Toxicroak are. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 00:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Toxicroak may appear to be "creepy" but it doesn't need an image that makes it look malformed. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 00:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I've put both images on now. Hopefully the problem is now solved. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 00:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Thing is, it doesn't really solve anything. This is a discussion of what picture is better for the head image. Plus, this article is quite small right now, and having a head image and a second image is possibly too much at this time. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 02:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, what exactly is so bad about using both images? Just because the article is small, it doesn't mean that we can only use one image. There's still more text than images. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 03:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
That matter about the pic has to be really decided. I thought the Dark Pulse pic was already agreed on, but apparently the disagreement is still there. Jmath 22:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I like tc26's (I spelled it in lowercase 'cause that's how how spells it in his signatiure) picture better. It shows Toxicroak's full body. The Dark Pulse picture only shows its arms/hands, head, neck, and the top of its stomach. --Chocolate 20:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Gender

If Toxicroak is a female in the games, then don't you think it's also female in the anime? I know what you're thinking, "But Toxicroak wasn't shiny in the games either," but, come on, I'm sure the genders are still the same. I just want to get some feed back before I change it.--Starlight the ampharos 01:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Different cannons, possibly different genders. The Dark Fiddler - 10% Satisfaction Guaranteed! 01:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Ah, but the anime DOES NOT always follow the games!!! Why was Ash able to carry a Hippopotas on his head in the anime if it ways 101 pounds in the game??? --Theryguy512 01:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but this article is about Saturn's Toxicroak, a Pokémon that appears in the animé and the games. If we have all of Brock's animé-only relatives in his infobox, with a disclaimer, I don't get why we shouldn't put this Toxicroak's gender with a disclaimer too, sort of like Roark's Rampardos's page does it. In fact, this page used to have that (I know, I put it there), but now I notice it's been taken away... Memo326 05:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, maybe we could put something like "Female (cofirmed in games only)"--Starlight the ampharos 13:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Image

I think we need a new image, Because we should have it's full body from the anime. ReaNintendo 17:35, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Adventures

I just wondered about the possibility that Saturn's Toxicroak in the Advantures manga could have evolved from the Croagunk he used earlier. It had the correct gender, and used Poison Jab as well. And we know how usually those manga Pokémon evolved, so could it be sure enough to be added here? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Color in Journeys

Is it worth mentioning that the new artwork styles and colors in Journeys make Saturn's Toxicroak's color much closer to a normal Toxicroak's color in the games? Arceus101 (talk) 16:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Sure. Which artwork do you mean?--Rocket Grunt 16:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)