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::: Yup, I've seen the Gastly appear in the Forest in Platinum too (not just the Chateau). I've also encountered Hoothoot, Bidoof and Kricketot in the forest, which is clearly Platinum compensation for the lack of Murkrow and Misdreavus. Gastly seem to be consistent with a 2% rate, Bidoof at 20% and Hoothoot / Kricketot at 10%. Also, this is more of a general question, but should Platinum have its own Item and Trainer section on every Route in Sinnoh? [[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 23:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC) | ::: Yup, I've seen the Gastly appear in the Forest in Platinum too (not just the Chateau). I've also encountered Hoothoot, Bidoof and Kricketot in the forest, which is clearly Platinum compensation for the lack of Murkrow and Misdreavus. Gastly seem to be consistent with a 2% rate, Bidoof at 20% and Hoothoot / Kricketot at 10%. Also, this is more of a general question, but should Platinum have its own Item and Trainer section on every Route in Sinnoh? [[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 23:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::: Yeah, I think it should. You should ask this on the discussion page for project routes. (I would, but I don't have Platinum yet)--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 19:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC) | :::: Yeah, I think it should. You should ask this on the discussion page for project routes. (I would, but I don't have Platinum yet)--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 19:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::: So, should we, like, update the rates on the page? I was kinda confused when I first looked at it (playing Japanese Platinum)... [[User:Micro01|Micro01]] 21:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Has any body else noticed this? == | == Has any body else noticed this? == | ||
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:But, it is impossible to go 7 steps > from either entrance, one will run you into a wall, and the other will take you out of the forest. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | :But, it is impossible to go 7 steps > from either entrance, one will run you into a wall, and the other will take you out of the forest. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Ok, I'm not the best at giving diretions. If you go 3 steps ↓ from the Florama Town side, then about 7 steps →, Then about 17 steps ↑, you'll see two trees that you can cut down, and when you do you'll be able to walk all the way around the Eterna Forest. Should we add this to the page? [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 18:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | ::Ok, I'm not the best at giving diretions. If you go 3 steps ↓ from the Florama Town side, then about 7 steps →, Then about 17 steps ↑, you'll see two trees that you can cut down, and when you do you'll be able to walk all the way around the Eterna Forest. Should we add this to the page? [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 18:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::This article is about the Forest itself. The shortcut you speak of happens outside of it. Either way. It doesn't belong in [[Route 205|either article.]] -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 18:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Maybe as a sentence in the route description. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::Eh, yeah, that would make sense...something along the lines of "a short cut is available later on once the player receives Cut." -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 19:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::::I redid the map, and since that shortcut is considered part of Eterna Forest (it shows your location as being in Eterna Forest), I think I might add an inset at the top left (lots of unused space there), with the shortcut. There is a 4-tile patch of Loamy soil, as well as a girl who gives you something (an accessory I think). This shortcut should be in some article, and I think this article would be the most suitable. <span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,sans-serif;">— [[User:Nuck Chorris|<span style="color:#456;">Nuck Chorris</span>]][[User talk:Nuck Chorris|<span style="vertical-align:super;font-size:80%;color:#abc;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 20:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia == | |||
If this is "the place where time stands still", will Riolu and such (day- and night-based evolution) evolve in Eterna Forest?--[[User:Kevzo8|<sup><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Ke</span></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<sup><span style="color:#000000">vz</span></sup>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<sub><span style="color:#696969">o8</span></sub>]] 08:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Meh, probably. I just picked it up from [[talk:eevee (Pokémon)|here]]. I thought it was interesting, but maybe we need a note about Riolu (if it does evolve, that is). — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 08:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Well, lemme try. :D --[[User:Kevzo8|<sup><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Ke</span></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<sup><span style="color:#000000">vz</span></sup>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<sub><span style="color:#696969">o8</span></sub>]] 09:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Platinum Trainers == | |||
I know it's not much, but I made a start: | |||
===In {{v2|Platinum}}=== | |||
{{trainerheader}} | |||
{{Trainerentry|Spr DP Bug Catcher.png|Bug Catcher|Jack|496|3|265|Wurmple|♂|1|None|267|Beautifly|♂|1|None|266|Silcoon|♂|1|None}} | |||
{{Trainerdiv}} | |||
{{Trainerentry|Spr DP Lass.png|Lass|Briana|496|1|417|Pachirisu|♀|1|None}} | |||
{{Trainerdiv}} | |||
{{Trainerentry|Spr DP Psychic F.png|Psychic|Lindsey|1088|1|063|Abra|♂|17|None}} | |||
{{Trainerdiv}} | |||
{{Trainerentry|Spr DP Psychic F.png|Psychic|Elijah|1088|1|063|Abra|♂|17|None}} | |||
{{Trainerfooter|land}} | |||
I didn't want to add it to the article since it's not a complete list of trainers in the area and it'd make the page look half-done. Plus I've no idea if that's how the winnings work. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:28, 3 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
* Addition: Added the second pair of trainers. Also made a mess of the levels of the first pair - I wrote down their Platinum levels but then accidentally transcribed the DP levels, so they're wrong >.< I also can't figure out how to note that the Abras still know Hidden Power (they're both Fighting too. Given the Chansey you're partnered with, I wonder if that's a coincidence). - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Buneary == | |||
Towards the beginning of the article it states that Eterna forest "is currently the only place in the Pokémon world to catch Buneary." This is incorrect as you can catch Buneary on Route 25 in Kanto in swarms in HeartGold and SoulSilver.--[[User:Ksemanr|Ksemanr]] 01:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
:This was prior to HGSS's release. Go fix it up then. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 01:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I did it...And you know, not everyone who comes here is knowledgeable about editing pages...You don't really have to tell them to go edit it themselves as they may not know how too...--[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#7394D5;">'''Psy'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#705848;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 01:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Image== | |||
On the top screen it states the Pedia needs a new Picture for the Eterna Forest, | |||
Well I was trying to upload one on the Archive but due to BW/W2 we can not upload it. | |||
I think the lock they put on non-admin users is really taking a toll on the edits. They need to take that out.[[User:GoldenSpoink|GoldenSpoink]] ([[User talk:GoldenSpoink|talk]]) 19:12, 23 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Around shortcut? == | |||
Does anyone have an overworld map of the shortcut around the Eterna Forest?--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== {{p|Nincada}} levels in {{ga|Platinum}} version. Suggest a revision. == | |||
For the record, I've encountered a {{p|Nincada}} at level 11 (instead of the noted 12-14 range mentioned). Thinking the levels written in [[Eterna_Forest|this article]] for Platinum need to be revised. If needed, I can change "12" to "11" at least, as that could be the lowest it goes. Thank you. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 05:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Cheryl and "a little problem" == | |||
In the article it states that Cheryl's Chansey can cause a problem: | |||
"However, during battles with wild Pokémon a little problem appears: the player can throw a Poké Ball only when there is one Pokémon left, and thus Chansey's Egg Bomb may accidentally knock out the Pokémon the player wants to catch." | |||
Perhaps the little problem should be that Chansey's egg bomb move supposedly has 75% accuracy and 100 power, but in reality it seems to act like like it has 10% accuracy and 10 power. And Chansey takes up a battle slot that could be used for otherwise useful pokémon... | |||
Sorry, just venting. Lost a pokémon on a nuzlocke run because Chansey is the worst companion ever.[[User:Chrisjfinlay|Chrisjfinlay]] ([[User talk:Chrisjfinlay|talk]]) 10:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:: (Also, having a bug catcher team up with a trainer with a Pachirisu is just cheap! [[User:Chrisjfinlay|Chrisjfinlay]] ([[User talk:Chrisjfinlay|talk]]) 10:33, 5 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Swarm Probability Changes == | |||
Dunno if this is a good place to ask this, but it's the first place I've noticed this happening. Looking for a silcoon in diamond and couldn't seem to find it, and it happened to be the same day slakoth were swarming. Is that a thing? doesn't seem to mention anything about it on the swarming page. [[User:Loumast|Loumast]] ([[User talk:Loumast|talk]]) 03:04, 3 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I believe it is a thing but not a lot of research has been done into it --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
::To answer this specific question: Yes, in Diamond and Pearl, if Slakoth is swarming, Silcoon/Cascoon and Level 10 Wurmple do not appear. Level 11 Wurmple can still appear in the morning and day, but at night Wurmple will not appear at all during the swarm. In Platinum, this is completely different, where Budew and Buneary are replaced instead (normally just making them less common, but possibly making them unavailable if using the Poké Radar at night or using the dongle method with a game other than Sapphire, respectively). | |||
::We do not currently note which Pokémon are replaced by Swarm/Radar/Dongle, despite them being well-known. We don't really have a good way of displaying them, so we just don't. On the [[Great Marsh]] page we do actually note the Pokémon replaced by the special Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:50, 24 November 2021 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 11:50, 24 November 2021
Little help for a newbie?
About the Pokémon appearance rates: I can confirm that Gastly shows up here in the day in Platinum, but I don't know the catch rate (and don't know how I would figure that out). Should I add it anyway? --La Diable 03:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- In Eterna Forest, and not in the Old Chateau? TTEchidna 03:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's right. Oh, of course I meant appearance rate, not catch rate. -_-; It's a very low rate, but they're there. 1 --La Diable 01:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, I've seen the Gastly appear in the Forest in Platinum too (not just the Chateau). I've also encountered Hoothoot, Bidoof and Kricketot in the forest, which is clearly Platinum compensation for the lack of Murkrow and Misdreavus. Gastly seem to be consistent with a 2% rate, Bidoof at 20% and Hoothoot / Kricketot at 10%. Also, this is more of a general question, but should Platinum have its own Item and Trainer section on every Route in Sinnoh? H4r8z0r 23:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it should. You should ask this on the discussion page for project routes. (I would, but I don't have Platinum yet)--Cadellin 19:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- So, should we, like, update the rates on the page? I was kinda confused when I first looked at it (playing Japanese Platinum)... Micro01 21:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it should. You should ask this on the discussion page for project routes. (I would, but I don't have Platinum yet)--Cadellin 19:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, I've seen the Gastly appear in the Forest in Platinum too (not just the Chateau). I've also encountered Hoothoot, Bidoof and Kricketot in the forest, which is clearly Platinum compensation for the lack of Murkrow and Misdreavus. Gastly seem to be consistent with a 2% rate, Bidoof at 20% and Hoothoot / Kricketot at 10%. Also, this is more of a general question, but should Platinum have its own Item and Trainer section on every Route in Sinnoh? H4r8z0r 23:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's right. Oh, of course I meant appearance rate, not catch rate. -_-; It's a very low rate, but they're there. 1 --La Diable 01:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Has any body else noticed this?
There's a shortcut around he Eterna forest. If you go about 7 steps → of the entrance, and then about 17 steps↑ there are two short trees that can be cut down. If you do that, then you can walk all the way around the Eterna Forest! Should sombody add this the page? Dolphins_are_awesome! 17:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- But, it is impossible to go 7 steps > from either entrance, one will run you into a wall, and the other will take you out of the forest. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 17:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm not the best at giving diretions. If you go 3 steps ↓ from the Florama Town side, then about 7 steps →, Then about 17 steps ↑, you'll see two trees that you can cut down, and when you do you'll be able to walk all the way around the Eterna Forest. Should we add this to the page? Dolphins_are_awesome! 18:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- This article is about the Forest itself. The shortcut you speak of happens outside of it. Either way. It doesn't belong in either article. -Sketch 18:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe as a sentence in the route description. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 19:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Eh, yeah, that would make sense...something along the lines of "a short cut is available later on once the player receives Cut." -Sketch 19:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- I redid the map, and since that shortcut is considered part of Eterna Forest (it shows your location as being in Eterna Forest), I think I might add an inset at the top left (lots of unused space there), with the shortcut. There is a 4-tile patch of Loamy soil, as well as a girl who gives you something (an accessory I think). This shortcut should be in some article, and I think this article would be the most suitable. — Nuck Chorris(talk) 20:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Eh, yeah, that would make sense...something along the lines of "a short cut is available later on once the player receives Cut." -Sketch 19:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe as a sentence in the route description. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 19:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- This article is about the Forest itself. The shortcut you speak of happens outside of it. Either way. It doesn't belong in either article. -Sketch 18:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm not the best at giving diretions. If you go 3 steps ↓ from the Florama Town side, then about 7 steps →, Then about 17 steps ↑, you'll see two trees that you can cut down, and when you do you'll be able to walk all the way around the Eterna Forest. Should we add this to the page? Dolphins_are_awesome! 18:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Trivia
If this is "the place where time stands still", will Riolu and such (day- and night-based evolution) evolve in Eterna Forest?--Kevzo8 08:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Meh, probably. I just picked it up from here. I thought it was interesting, but maybe we need a note about Riolu (if it does evolve, that is). — THE TROM — 08:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Platinum Trainers
I know it's not much, but I made a start:
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Trainers with a Vs. Seeker by their names, when alerted for a rematch using the item, may use higher-level Pokémon. |
I didn't want to add it to the article since it's not a complete list of trainers in the area and it'd make the page look half-done. Plus I've no idea if that's how the winnings work. - Miraglyth 18:28, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Addition: Added the second pair of trainers. Also made a mess of the levels of the first pair - I wrote down their Platinum levels but then accidentally transcribed the DP levels, so they're wrong >.< I also can't figure out how to note that the Abras still know Hidden Power (they're both Fighting too. Given the Chansey you're partnered with, I wonder if that's a coincidence). - Miraglyth 18:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Buneary
Towards the beginning of the article it states that Eterna forest "is currently the only place in the Pokémon world to catch Buneary." This is incorrect as you can catch Buneary on Route 25 in Kanto in swarms in HeartGold and SoulSilver.--Ksemanr 01:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Image
On the top screen it states the Pedia needs a new Picture for the Eterna Forest, Well I was trying to upload one on the Archive but due to BW/W2 we can not upload it. I think the lock they put on non-admin users is really taking a toll on the edits. They need to take that out.GoldenSpoink (talk) 19:12, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Around shortcut?
Does anyone have an overworld map of the shortcut around the Eterna Forest?--Abcboy (talk) 17:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Nincada levels in Platinum version. Suggest a revision.
For the record, I've encountered a Nincada at level 11 (instead of the noted 12-14 range mentioned). Thinking the levels written in this article for Platinum need to be revised. If needed, I can change "12" to "11" at least, as that could be the lowest it goes. Thank you. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 05:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Cheryl and "a little problem"
In the article it states that Cheryl's Chansey can cause a problem:
"However, during battles with wild Pokémon a little problem appears: the player can throw a Poké Ball only when there is one Pokémon left, and thus Chansey's Egg Bomb may accidentally knock out the Pokémon the player wants to catch."
Perhaps the little problem should be that Chansey's egg bomb move supposedly has 75% accuracy and 100 power, but in reality it seems to act like like it has 10% accuracy and 10 power. And Chansey takes up a battle slot that could be used for otherwise useful pokémon...
Sorry, just venting. Lost a pokémon on a nuzlocke run because Chansey is the worst companion ever.Chrisjfinlay (talk) 10:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- (Also, having a bug catcher team up with a trainer with a Pachirisu is just cheap! Chrisjfinlay (talk) 10:33, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Swarm Probability Changes
Dunno if this is a good place to ask this, but it's the first place I've noticed this happening. Looking for a silcoon in diamond and couldn't seem to find it, and it happened to be the same day slakoth were swarming. Is that a thing? doesn't seem to mention anything about it on the swarming page. Loumast (talk) 03:04, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- I believe it is a thing but not a lot of research has been done into it --Spriteit (talk) 00:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- To answer this specific question: Yes, in Diamond and Pearl, if Slakoth is swarming, Silcoon/Cascoon and Level 10 Wurmple do not appear. Level 11 Wurmple can still appear in the morning and day, but at night Wurmple will not appear at all during the swarm. In Platinum, this is completely different, where Budew and Buneary are replaced instead (normally just making them less common, but possibly making them unavailable if using the Poké Radar at night or using the dongle method with a game other than Sapphire, respectively).
- We do not currently note which Pokémon are replaced by Swarm/Radar/Dongle, despite them being well-known. We don't really have a good way of displaying them, so we just don't. On the Great Marsh page we do actually note the Pokémon replaced by the special Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 11:50, 24 November 2021 (UTC)