Talk:Explosion (move)

Should we add the fact that only two Pokémon can get STAB from this move - Lickilicky and Smeargle? (I think so, anyway.) Tina^☆♥♫δ 03:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• So you're implying that due to STAB, Explosion will do 1000 damage, right? ht14 22:25, April 11, 2008 (GMT)
  • No, the STAB would make it 750, not 1000, as the STAB multiplier is 1.5x not 2x.--Wikifixer 15:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
    • The STAB boosts the Base Power from 250 to 375, Silk Scarf further boosts it to 412.5, and i don't know how that translates into actual battle damage, but 412.5 BP sounds brill to me. Though a Blaze/Overgrowth Fire/Grass Type with Overheat/Leaf Storm and a Charcoal/Miracle Seed does more I think... like 600+ or something. user:494alex 23:19, May 13th, 2009 (GMT)
      • I really think what keeps the record is Sunshine+STAB+Flash Fire+Choice Specs(+Heatran's Sp. Atk)+Overheat keeps the record. BP with all those multipliers is 1.5*1.5*1.5*1.5*140=708.75, and combined with Heatran, it's really terrible.

Focus Sash

Does the Focus Sash save a Pokémon from fainting when it uses Explosion? Zesty Cactus 04:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes of course it does. Stop posting this on every page. —darklordtrom 20:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure he means the user of explosion and that wouldnt make much sense to me. Dexington 22:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Focus Sash does not prevent it from fainting...Forretress killed Abra along with itself...--^Psychic_Rider^☮ 22:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Dexington's right, I meant "does it protect the USER of Explosion", I guess I should have made that clearer. Thanks guys.Zesty Cactus 02:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Both trainers on their last Pokemon

If both trainers are on their last pokemon, and one uses Explosion/Selfdestruct, knocking the other out, who wins? In the following situations:

• In-game, the player's last pokemon uses Explosion/Self destruct and knocks out a wild pokemon.
• In-game, the player's last pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out an NPC trainer's last pokemon.
• In-game, a wild pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out the player's last pokemon.
• In-game, an NPC trainer's last pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out the player's last pokemon.
• Over the GTS/link cable, one player's last pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out the other player's last pokemon.

- unsigned comment from The Void (talk • contribs)

• Both die, no EXP given (unless the EXP share is on a different Pokémon)
• Both die, it counts as the player losing the battle and blacks out
• Both die, the player blacks out
• Both die, it counts as the player losing the battle and blacks out
• I haven't tried this, but I imagine it's a tie game

—darklordtrom 20:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Stunky/Skuntank

Actually, the part about Stunky and Skuntank exploding - which was recently removed - is true. It happened to me, at least. "Skuntank would like to join your team. <No> Skuntank exploded. Skuntank went away." I think it's like that for Pokémon with the Aftermath ability. Needs confirmation, though. FireMeowth 20:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Life Orb

Article states that "This attack can achieve up to 412.5 Base Power if powered up with Lickilicky's STAB and a Silk Scarf." Silk Scarf only boosts by 20% in Generation IV, as I recall. Does Life Orb (30% boost) not affect the power of Explosion because of the inability to remove HP? --Zukiedo (Talk) 05:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I think it does. If not, there's still Choice Band. --PLA 11:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Abilities

If an ability like Pure Power were Skill Swapped onto a Lickilicky holding a Silk Scarf, surely it would do even more damage? And would this be worth adding to the section about the maximum possible damage? Mattachu 15:41:45, 04 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, since that bit is more about move modifiers than ATK modifiers. Explosion would do even more damage with +6 ATK and -6 foe DEF, but that doesn't seem very noteworthy to me. Even in terms of most damage possible for any move (which would be more interesting), I think a calculation on Rollout still has the trophy anyway. --PLA 16:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I think the prize goes to Water Spout under Rain used by a Water-type with Adaptability on a Ground/Rock Pokémon. TTEchidna 06:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Shedinja

If Explosion was hacked onto a Shedinja, would it knock it out? Borg184 04:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Explosion sets the user's HP to 0, then does damage. TTEchidna 06:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Max Damage

I used Pokemon.marriland's calculator with a lv100 golem against a lv100 chansey: That attack will do between 2337 and 2749 damage!- unsigned comment from Ashclaw (talk • contribs)

That's nowhere near the maximum damage this move can do. The maximum is 19476 damage. That's when it's used by a level 100 Lickilicky with an Attack IV of 31, 252 Attack EVs, a nature beneficial to Attack, holding a Silk Scarf uses Explosion on a level 1 Chansey with a Defense IV of 0 and a nature that lowers Defense hits for a critical hit the with the highest random number generated. However, we won't be mentioning it in the article. The maximum damage award goes to Rollout. --SnorlaxMonster 08:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Years late to the party, Alolan Golem with Galvanize on Electric Terrain and a Choice Band must be a pretty powerful combination. 372 max attack stat, 250*2 power * 1.3 for the terrain * 1.5 for STAB * 1.5 for choice band is power 1755 before factoring in type effectiveness, which can change in this setup Anyway the trivia section could do with an update regarding Silvally and Lickilicky being the only users able to get stab Jarrod.makin (talk) 00:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Sturdy

With sturdy allowing the pokemon to survive a potential k-o, does this move fail, allow the user to survive or still faint the user if they have sturdy? Mattrules161 14:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Explosion sets the user's HP to 0, so Sturdy does not work. The user will faint as if it didn't have Sturdy. Dry Paratroopa 19:08, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Strongest move?

I know that under optimal circumstances (abilities, natures, held items, weather, etc.), lots of moves are more powerful. But is it still worth mentioning it has the highest unmodified power of any move, or has that changed? --KingStarscream (talk) 14:43, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

That's like second sentence of this article. How did you miss it? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:45, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Explosion effect order

This is about the sentence "Explosion returns to damaging the target before the user faints." I noticed in Gen 7 that Explosion would "behave" differently based on if animations were on or not. If they were on, Explosion would appear to hit opponents first and then the user would faint. If not, the user's HP would drop to 0, faint, and then opponents would be hit. Is damaging the target what really happens first behind the scenes? --Flametix (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

M23

Has Explosion been explicitly named in closed captions or anywhere else for the move that a wild Nuzleaf and Boldore use in Secrets of the Jungle?