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This article was merged with "Champion (Trainer class)" on 25 Nov., 2010. Further pre-merge discussion may be found here. —darklordtrom 10:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Title defence

"It is assumed that the Champion must defend their title against challengers, although this is never explicitly stated."

What about when you fight Blue in R/B. They say he's the champion, then you have to fight him to become champion, you beat him and oh noes he is no longer the top-dog. That looks to me like a title defence. - Ferret 03:39, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

As someone else noted in another article - the problem with that is FireRed and LeafGreen alone - where when you fight the Elite Four the second time (and in terms of the story - they recognize it's the second time, too) and Blue is the champion agian. - Zeta

That is a problem. But to me that would say that in the game, that it's possible to have more than one champion at the same time, no? Or maybe Game Freak just screwed up. Maybe the translators screwed up, does the original Japanese version share the same not-champion, now-chamption mixup? - Ferret 03:56, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What I don't understand is why, in the games, the main goals are: catch all Pokémon, and BECOME THE CHAMPION. Yet when you beat the Elite Four/Champion, you can go back and re-chalenge the Champion, even though the game says you are the Champ, and the Champion has the same speech and is called "Champion *blank*". It is a HUGE loophole in the games. Why not retire the old Champ or have them say that you are the Champ now in their pre-battle speech? GuyNamedSean 02:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Sometimes things that should happen don't, because it's a game. It's better if there's a always high-level opponent that you can challenge at any time. Because of that, they're not going to retire the game champ. But not changing the speech? Yeah, that's laziness. Apparently you're supposed to make the assumption that the game champion immediately sweeps the Elite Four again once you leave?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Obvious rename

Let's rename this to "Pokémon League Champion"; "Pokémon champion" sounds like it is describing someone who is a champion at something else, like contests or Battle Tower. In other words, Pokémon League Champion=moreo specifico. PH1RESTRIKE 02:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Oak

Didn't proffesser oak win the first pokemon league in the pokespe manga?- unsigned comment from Lunick v sonela (talk • contribs)

Sorry.Lunick v sonela 17:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sprite

Should we have a section regarding the sprites of the Champions? ^ht14^★ 23:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

That's on the article for the Champion trainer class. —darklordtrom 23:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Right... ^ht14^★ 23:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

to merge

I vote for merging--Branfili 04:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone actually opose the merge? And if so why? These pages are about the same thing. --SnorlaxMonster 13:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I also vote for merging, and that the Trainer Class page should be removed. The new page should be named "Pokémon Champion". 'Coz I dun see a "Boss (Trainer class)" page. The sprites in the Trainer class should be moved to the "In the games" section. -- Ruixiang95 13:19, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

OK then. Due to absolutely no objection on either talk page, and absolutely no clear reason to have the pages separate, I'm going to combine these pages like Gym Leader was. While the page will be here, it should really be at "Pokémon Champion"—I have checked the games and it is a proper noun. --SnorlaxMonster 08:01, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Red

Wasn't he explicitly stated as a champion? He took Blue out of his role and became champion for a period. Shouldn't he be stated, for the games? Lovely Rose 17:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

True, but he is already covered by "* The player of Pallet Town, New Bark Town, Littleroot Town, or Twinleaf Town (depending) - All games, once defeating the previous Champion". --SnorlaxMonster 10:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

N?

Isn't N technically the champion for a short time? He beat Alder, and then is defeated by the player. Sennen Goroshi 01:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Picture?

I uploaded a picture of the six main series Champions' official art arranged to have them standing in a group. The revision of this page that included the picture was almost instantaneously undone and the uploaded file was subsequently deleted (due to not being currently in use on any page). So, tempted though I am, before I take matters back into my own hands: Would such a picture be a good addition to the page? Alderryeguy 01:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)