Talk:Platinum (Adventures)

Renaming

No sources so I`m renaming Berlitz `The Lady` - unsigned comment from Random Dude123 (talk • contribs)

Okay, well, if you open up a character map and check the characters like I did, you can see the characters of her name are 'Be', 'Ru', 'Ri', 'Tu', and 'Tu'. So, um, I think it's assumable there's SOME source on it.

An another note, though, before changing it to something like 'The Lady', you should wait and see, because that's really a terrible and non-specific name for an article.

And on another note, that's NOT how you move articles. --Pie 22:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Were did you find this infomation? User:Random Dude132

Have you ever considered that some of us actually go out to buy and read this stuff? - 振霖_T 07:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

And besides, look at these three pages about the new main cast: 1 2 3

Anyone Think Her First name Will Be Opal?

Since this would work for the third version, with Giritina as the cover pokemon. Not only does Opal actually work for a girl's name, but it also associated with Giritina. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clark Griswald (talk • contribs).

It doesn't matter what we think. If it's not canon, all there can be is baseless speculation. What if they do a third version with a green stone instead, like Jade? That's a girl's name, too. And it's Giratina. Don't worry, we'll know in due time. Plus... you oughta capitalize Pokémon and use the accented e. It's down in the character pallete, or you could hit Alt + 130 to generate it as you type. Tom Temprotran 00:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it's more correct to use the ASCII equivalent, alt+0233 (don't forget the zero) Hangfromthefloor 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I know it's just an assumption, but doesn't it APPEAR to be true? Giratina's association with Girasol and thus a pearl. I mean, I don't see anything related to Jade around. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clark Griswald (talk • contribs).

Well, you never know. It may be a valid assumption, and it may end up true, but we can't risk putting something that's not a concrete fact here. Heck, I think the third could very well be Ivory, as that's an organic stubstance that's considered to be a precious thing, much like pearls are. As for the diamonds, they're grouped with rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the precious gemstones. Plus, if it were Ivory, it would relate to Arseus in its color, and not to mention, that Dialga and Palkia are said to be two halves of it. Nintendo is, as always, trying to screw with us. From all of the GS references in FRLG and DP, many think there'll be a remake of the second gen. But as long as it's unknown, there's no place for it on an encyclopedia of Pokémon. The same goes for the timeline relation between RBYGSC and RSEDP. Many THEORIZE that the three-year gap came into play once again, but there's very little concrete facts until we get an official English translation. The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo's doing a third version. They've done it the past three generations, first time they didn't was FRLG, because some might expect an OceanBlue, and others might expect ThunderYellow. Or at least, that's my theory. I see where yours comes from, and I do think that it could possibly be Opal. But then, we'd risk an edit war over the most trivial unannounced information: What the name of the third version of DP will be. And then... everyone will just throw in random things they thought of on a whim.

Bravo my good sir. I was never saying that it SHOULD be added right away, merely speculation on the matter. Besides, you've done quite well in explaining yourself, and I can't help but admire you for all you have to say. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clark Griswald (talk • contribs).

Hey, I try. I'd probably do the same thing if this was back in Gen III before Emerald, even though I always figured that it was a for sure thing that it would be. Can't say that I didn't doubt that Nintendo would somehow come up with a way-out-there idea for the third version, though, that wouldn't have Rayquaza on it, like a Topaz, to go with Yellow like RS do with RB. That turned into FRLG, though, which was a pretty big upset either way.

fact is, there's nothing stopping Nintendo from making Amethyst Version with Crecelia on it, Amethyst was once up there with diamonds, rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the most precious of the gems. Heck, that'd be a reference back to the GSC mascots much like RSE was back to RGB. We'd have x49, x50, and one of the run-around-the-region guys, whereas last time, we had three totally related ones, just like in RGB.

So yeah, could be anything in the world, especially with 14 legendaries that could be on the cover. Whatever it is, though, it'll be a surprise. And psssssst. Don't forget to put four tildes (~) in a row to sign your comments. Tom Temprotran 01:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It might possibly be Quartz, from the tz in Berlitz. I haven't heard much or followed a lot of Generation IV news, so I probably wouldn't be the one to figure this out. Hangfromthefloor 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

So, I'm running some polls about this topic out of boredom, and you'd be surprised to see just how many people are convinced that the next version will be Opal/Girasol. A lot of them are even jerks about other versions existing. And I mean, Amethyst is believable, but it's just that Giritina is like Rayquaza in a lot of ways, and also relates to the dragons. Now ivory? They wouldn't release a version about an event pokemon. And Crescelia? I'm just not convinced, because that would deal with another event one. Clark Griswald 23:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Who says they won't release one about an event Pokémon? Before Crystal, you'd've thought they'd never release one with one of a legendary trio on the box without the other two on the other two versions, right? And Crecelia's not as much event as it is like Latios and Latias. Heck, Yellow was an odd choice for a third version of Red/Blue. Pikachu barely relates to Charizard and Blastoise. The only third version we've seen so far whose mascot relates to the first two completely was Emerald. And... that's not counting Red/Green and Blue, since that got a fourth version, which became everyone else's third. Or something like that.

It goes a little something like this, in my vision Tom Temprotran 06:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC):

---

First/Second versions		Third version
Red	Blue	Yellow
Final form, Fire starter	Final form, Water starter	Special starter
Gold	Silver	Crystal
Tin Tower	Brass Tower	Legendary beast
Ruby	Sapphire	Emerald
Master of Sunlight	Master of Rain	Master of Weather
		?
Diamond	Pearl	Version 3
Master of Time	Master of Space	??????????

---

I can guess the third may be Arceus, Master of Universe; it's possible. Also, Pearl and Diamond are gemstones, Berlitz are only last names of people. ROMaster2

Your list and thinking that Pikachu is an odd choice to complement the first two versions is kinda wrong. Yellow is not the third version of Generation 1, it was a fourth, anime-based iteration. The original two versions and the third version all feature the fully evolved forms of the starters. Yellow then has Pikachu because that its version's starter (and, as I said, it's based on the anime). Just because the non-Japanese versions didn't have 4 doesn't mean that's how they were created. Green as a character shouldn't even exist in the manga if you discount the original Japanese versions, and there's a reason the remakes of the original two are Fire Red and Leaf Green, not a Blue. As for the third version of Generation 4 being Opal (and thus Berlitz's given name)... I kinda doubt it. That name is extremely similar to Pearl in Japanese, the only difference being an "o" at the beginning. Capsule Computer 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Though I suppose if they did go with Opal, they could make jokes like Berlitz being an honourable version of Pearl. lol Capsule Computer 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Note also that Ho-oh is related to the more gold-coloured Brass Tower, and Lugia to the Tin Tower. Just because Ho-oh is called to the Tin Tower by the Rainbow Wing doesn't make it Ho-oh's domain. Originally Lugia sat atop Tin, and Ho-oh atop Brass. There were two real towers on either side of a lake in Kyoto as well - and the Gold-leaved tower burnt down, like the Brass Tower. It also had a statue of the Houou bird atop it. The reason the anime get confused about two Tin Towers is because Ho-oh originally atop Brass Tower, and then moved to the Tin Tower ONLY when it was summoned there by the Rainbow Wing held by the GSC player. The Legendary Beasts were ultimately tied to the fate of the Twin Towers and the Silver and Gold Birds who sat upon those respective towers. Suicune happens to be the beast that is the most connected with purification, like Celebi, who was also the focus of Crystal (at least in the Japanese version), so it gets the place on the box.

That being said, I highly believe that Giratina will be the fourth version and Opal Berlitz be the full name of the new Special protagonist. However, that a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon will be the star of the version seems quite strange. But Giratina is most likely the version mascot. Cresselia and Amethyst fit as well with Dialga and Palkia, and regardless, it's still a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon. Arceus... I just can't see an event Pokémon as the mascot, because then the event would have to be built into the game, making the event in Diamond and Pearl lose meaning because you can just trade Arceus to your Diamond or Pearl versions after getting to that point in the third game. Plus, if the movies are any indication, Girantina will be fighting a huge war of gods in the 11th Movie, against Dialga and Palkia (and perhaps Regigigas as well), which seems to indicate his connection with the other two Dimensional Dragon Gods of Sinnoh. I just wonder how his story will be elaborated on. But I digress. As long as Giratina is the mascot of the third game, it will get a name like Opal or Girasol, and thus Berlitz will be Opal Berlitz. I doubt the use of Girasol Version, because it sounds ridiculous, and no kid will know what a Girasol is unless they are like my kid brother who's intensely into rocks and minerals. Satosuke 01:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

In responce to the above query about Cresselia being an event pokemon, it's Cresselia's conection with Darkrai that get's rid of it's chances to be the third version mascot. Although never explicidly stated, Cresselia's conection with Darkrai has been greatly implied and it is further delved into in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2. Cresselia on it's own has not enough personality to carry it's own game without darkrai and as stated above, having an event pokemon in the third game would be like a kick in the face to all those who got it the hard way. Noname If you use the process of elimination, the only pokemon who has a serious chance of rivaling Giratina for the tital of the third game is Mesprit.

So with recent announcements, her name will probably be Platinum. But let's wait until this is actually stated in the manga before adding it to the article. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 16:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Dawn/Berlitz

Anyone else thing it should be mentioned somewhere that Berlitz has resemblance to Dawn from the anime? (Constant 16:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC))

Dawn from the anime, however, has a resemblance to Dawn from the games. From what I've seen, I think Special is closer to the games than anime, so.. yeah. Tina ^δ♫ 16:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Either way, Dawn from the anime resembles Berlitz from the Special and Dawn/Female PC from the games. You can switch that around however you choose, but still, anyone who has eyes and can see can probably see the resemblance. Not to sound sour, because I probably do. (Constant)

Cross-canon counterparts they are. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 22:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

So is that a yes or no? o.O - Constant 10:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a yes, but not worth adding to the article in this way as they are both based on the same character. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 16:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

So Then!

When's the next Special come out and WHAT IS HER NAME! TTEchidna 01:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I dont know when the next one comes out, but its obvious (to me) that her names gonna be Platinum. or they could nickname her like Crys, but whats a nickname for Platinum? Platty? :P Hatsumi 02:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)Hatsumi

But remember, in Japanese, Platinum is Platina. They could just call her Tina. TTEchidna 03:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Which is pretty ironic, eh? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links08:52 16 May 2008

Woot I might be a character in Special instead of a random Picnicker in Erika's servergym with a Bulbasaur. Tina^☆♫ 15:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Either way, anyone got any clue when the next Special comes out? TTEchidna 03:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It won't be in the next Special. The reveal will wait until the best time in the plot. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

So protection until the game comes out is good? TTEchidna 07:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Can it be unprotected for an hour so i can fix some mistakes I found. User:Agent008

Drop a line to a sysop about those mistakes. If these mistakes can be fixed without lifting the protection, then we don't have to lift the protection. Keep in mind that any report on such mistakes will be scanned for accuracy. --Shiningpikablu252 21:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

A what?Maybe I should buy Bulbapedia instead.And after that I'll purchase Wikipedia! User:Agent008

Changes Please

The character templte should be at the bottem, not the top. The line about her speculated first name should probably be changed to state her speculated name is Platina/Platinum - unsigned comment from Lego3400 (talk • contribs)

Wait, what? How did that happen? It's in all the older revisions, too, so I'm inclined to think it's a problem with the template, but at the same time, it doesn't seem to be affecting any of the other characters' pages...

That's the reason it was protected in the first place, to prevent people from speculating all over it.

Sign your comments with ~~~~, please. Like this: Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 02:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I changed the template the Special bios would look neater and then relocated the template on the other bios, but I couldn't change this one because it was proteced. Whoever changed it, let me just say a big thank you! It was driving me nuts, not being able to relocate the template. --JennyRogue

Name

When was Platina's name revealed? User:ShinyPikachu

Yeah? Rucario64 20:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

CoroCoro magazine's manga section. Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links 10:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Shipping

Is there not a name for Diamond and Platina? Aura-Knight 13:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Commonershipping. ArcToraphim 20:55, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, linking Dia and Platina to it once I make the page. Aura-Knight 01:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Picture??

I have this picture from the special manga, but i dont know if it will work for the characters. Hows this? src=" --JayEl 09:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it would go better on this page than any one character's. Also, I'm not sure if you know this already, but remember to upload it to the Archives before putting it on the article (click on the "upload file" link on the left toolbar). --((Marton imos)) 09:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

yea sorry, i just joined, and i was trying to do my best to do everything right--JayEl 09:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You're fine, for now at least. Linking to an external image on a talk page or your userpage is OK. But you should upload it to the archives and link to it there once you add it to the article. --((Marton imos)) 09:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You can't use that. It's a render by someone on DeviantArt. -Sketch 11:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Was gonna say thatDCM_{((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))}

Eyes

Should it be mentioned that she is the first main character whose eyes were recolored after the release of a new game for the generation? ~RR~ 02:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

They were? TTEchidna 03:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Practically every Special character's eyes have changed at some point. I'm more surprised that the GSDS people haven't jumped on this yet. Aura-Knight 16:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

...but but but....

...but but but...

Why move it? In all honesty, if we're going with Platinum over Platina, why not move it to Platinum (Adventures) and complete the anglification? Derp-derp-pa-derp. Let's not forget Netkun also spells it as "Pockemon" like in EP025. Guess we've been spelling it wrong the whole time. TTEchidna 08:37, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Ask Maxim. He moved it at the beginning of this month, as apparently Netkun spells her as "Platinum". TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 14:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

'Swhat the talk page is for. Sure, "プラチナ" is literally "Platinum" as in, the element, but... it's Platina! Giratina's not Giratinum. TTEchidna 08:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Google Translate seems to indicate that it can translate to both Platinum and Platina. I guess it's just a case of which sounds better, unless someone wants to go e-mail Hidenori and ask him what her name actually would be translated... TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 13:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

DOO IIIITTTTT TTEchidna 22:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

So, Netkun's got Diamond's name as "Daiamond". Should we thusly move it? Duh no. I think we all like the Platina name better, plus the fact that it sounds more like a girl's name (much like the last even generation's girl), so... yeah let's go for it. Agreeable? TTEchidna 06:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

English name

I've been... reliably informed of the blurb for Chuang Yi's translation of Volume 30 by my usual seller:

Diamond and Pearl are aspiring stand-up comedians, while Missy Berlitz is a girl of distinguished heritage who is heading for Mt. Coronet. While these two should have had nothing to do with each other, an unfortunate misunderstanding leads to them heading on a journey together – each assuming the other to be someone they are not – and it just gets worse along the way! Despite all that, the trio forms a bond of friendship and reliance, as they traverse the region of Sinnoh and explore never-before-seen places!

Is the "Missy Berlitz" worthy of any mention? TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 18:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't trust Chuang Yi, but it sounds OK. I'd wait for an admin to give his/her approval though. --☆AT♂ 19:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Do keep in mind that the Chuang Yi volume releases are not to the point where we'd get a first name. As far as I can tell, "Missy Berlitz" is probably their translation of the formal title and the last name. (For the record, can anyone track down the round where the first name was actually revealed? Then we might get a vague estimate on when Chuang Yi might reveal its translation...) --Shiningpikablu252 22:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I know it's the translation of her formal name, I was just wondering whether it'd be worth putting it in somewhere. Also, whether they will refer to her as Missy or not remains to be seen. I'll have to check that when I get my copy. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 03:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Frosslass

ok since everyone keeps adding it

I have to ask

is the frosslass that candice used against platinum in Vs. Frosslass the same one that Platinum uses to search for looker and buck?

or is it a different one? was it said? if not then it cant be the same pokemon...it's highly unlikely she just gave platinum her sig pokemon (Ataro 19:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC))

hello? (Ataro 02:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC))

....I need an answer here guys... (Ataro 02:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC))

I'm sorry, I haven't even read that far into the manga, so I can't really answer your question. Perhaps someone else more experienced could answer? —♥ Jello 18:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Move

Her name should be written as the direct roumaji (i.e. "Platina") until Chuang Yi gives her English name. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 19:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, not really. Netkun Website spells her name as Platinum, so it's like official Romaji. And I also would prefer Platina. But official website says Platinum, so I'm sorry. --Maxim 19:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, except that the Japanese publishers have officially romanized her name as "Platinum." inb4 someone brings up DAIAMOND." 梅子^❀_✿ 19:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

You pointed out exactly why Netkun doesn't count; they romanized Diamond as Daiamond. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 02:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Daiamond, was only used once. Netkun is official, despite all its mistakes and Platinum stays at Platinum. --☆CoolPikachu! 02:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Birthdate

When is Platinum's Birthdate?--KayKay|Chat to me! 10:55, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Wait does Platinum even have a birthdate?--KayKay|Chat to me! 01:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

No, the official site doesn't list one and the volumes don't tell us anything Ataro 02:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

platina's age?

is her age actually mentioned, or any of them for that matter? arrchecArrchec 05:36, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes. The official website lists them. Ataro 06:36, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

ahh, thank you. Arrchec 04:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)