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During the planning and development stages of '''{{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}''', [[CoroCoro]] magazine released some information about the upcoming games, including game sprites and locations. Everything in the article was found in the final games with a few modifications and cleanups. Other discoveries are related to unused elements in the localized releases of the games.
{{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, as remakes of {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, implemented redone elements of the original games. Nonetheless, as individual games, they have gone through similar stages of development as all the other [[Version|main series]] games.


==Universal development leftovers==
==Universal development leftovers==
===Sprites===
===Sprites===
Before the games' release, there were pictures from [[CoroCoro]] magazine that depicted {{ga|Silver}}'s, {{p|Chikorita}}'s, {{p|Pikachu}}'s and [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon with in-game effects#Pikachu-colored Pichu|Pikachu-colored]] {{p|Pichu}}'s beta sprites. These were changed later on. An early back sprite of {{ga|Ethan}} was also shown. His hair is slightly different and there is a symbol on his hat. There is also a prototype sprite for {{p|Lugia}}.
[[CoroCoro]]'s editions containing pre-release information of the games depicted earlier sprites for {{ga|Silver}}, {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Pikachu}} and {{DL|List of Nintendo event Pokémon with in-game effects|Pikachu-colored Pichu}}. Chikorita's leaf was darker.


There are initial screenshots as well. One depicts the [[Slowpoke Well]] where a {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}} is standing where [[Proton]] is in the final version, as was the case with the original {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. Another screenshot shows the Mystri Stage in the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] that shows the three circles being identically colored instead of the three different colors specific to each one in the final version.
An earlier back sprite for {{ga|Ethan}} was also shown. His hair was slightly different and there was a symbol on his hat. There is also a prototype sprite for {{p|Lugia}}.


Also, {{p|Cyndaquil}}'s front sprite in the introductory opening is different from its front sprite used during normal gameplay.
Earlier screenshots also depict the [[Slowpoke Well]] with a {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}} standing where [[Proton]] is in the final release, as was the case with the original {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. Another screenshot depicts the Mystri Stage in the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] with the three circles being identically colored. In the final release, they have three different colors specific to each circle.
 
{{p|Cyndaquil}}'s front sprite in the opening of the games is different from its front sprite used during regular gameplay.


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| Beta back sprite of Ethan
| {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}'s prototype back sprite
| Silver's beta front sprite
| {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}'s prototype front sprite
| Chikorita's beta front sprite (leaf coloring is darker)
| {{color2|000|Chikorita (Pokémon)|Chikorita}}'s prototype front sprite
| Pikachu's beta front sprite
| {{color2|000|Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu}}'s prototype front sprite
| Pikachu-colored Pichu's beta sprite
| {{color2|000|List of Nintendo event Pokémon with in-game effects#Pikachu-colored Pichu|Pikachu-colored Pichu}}'s prototype front sprite
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[[File:HGSS Prerelease Cynthia Arceus.jpg]]
[[File:HGSS Prerelease Cynthia Arceus.jpg]]
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| Beta battle screen, showing Ethan and Silver's aforementioned sprites
| Prototype {{color2|000|Pokémon battle|battle}} screen, showing {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}'s and {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}'s aforementioned sprites
| Unfinished Slowpoke Well, lacking Proton
| Slowpoke Well, lacking Proton
| Early version of the Mystri Stage, a platform in the Sinjoh Ruins used for summoning one of the Sinnoh game mascots.
| Earlier version of the Mystri Stage, a platform in the {{color2|000|Sinjoh Ruins}} used for summoning one of the {{color2|000|Sinnoh}} {{color2|000|Legendary trio|game mascots}}.
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===Items===
===Items===
[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl beta#Hidden items|All]] [[Pokémon Platinum beta#Items|items]] present in the internal files of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} and {{game|Platinum}} are found in the coding of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, in addition to the latter's exclusive items. Unused items within HeartGold and SoulSilver's programming include:
[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl beta#Hidden items|All]] [[Pokémon Platinum beta#Items|items]] present in the programming code of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} and {{game|Platinum}} are found in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, in addition to the latter's exclusive items. Unused items within HeartGold and SoulSilver's programming code include:
* [[List of dummied out items#Photo Album|Photo Album]], a [[key item]] for storing photos; was replaced with photo storage integration in the [[PC]];
* {{DL|List of dummied out items|Photo Album}}, a [[key item]] for storing photos. It was replaced with photo storage integration in the [[PC]];
* [[Valuable item#SlowpokeTail|SlowpokeTail]], an expensive but useless item; makes a comeback from the original games and can be obtained through hacking but has no function. Interestingly, it was made a key item (it was a regular item in [[Generation II]]).
* {{DL|Valuable item|SlowpokeTail}}, an expensive but useless item. It makes a comeback from the original games and can be obtained through modification of the saved game but it has no function. Interestingly, it was made a key item (it was a regular item in the [[Generation II]] games).


===Debugging features===
===Debugging features===
The [[Pokémon Platinum beta#Debugging features|same debugging tools]] found in the programming of {{v2|Platinum}} are also present in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.
The [[Pokémon Platinum beta#Debugging features|same debugging tools]] found in the programming code of {{game|Platinum}} are also present in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.


==Localization-specific findings==
==Localization-specific findings==
Due to [[Pokémon controversy#Gambling|legal issues]] related with gambling, the interior design of both [[Goldenrod Game Corner|Goldenrod]] and [[Celadon Game Corner]]s was completely overhauled in all non-Japanese releases of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. However, the original design is still present within the coding of the localized releases, despite being severely limited, since most dialogue scripts were removed (with the exception of the [[Coin]] purchase interface, which is still completely functional and translated) and the [[slot machine]] interface pointers are redirected to the [[Voltorb Flip]] interface instead.
Due to [[Pokémon controversy#Gambling|legal issues]] related with {{wp|gambling}}, the interior design of both [[Goldenrod Game Corner|Goldenrod]] and [[Celadon Game Corner]]s was completely overhauled in all non-Japanese releases of {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. However, the original design is still present within the programming code of the localized releases, despite being severely limited, since most dialogue scripts were removed (with the exception of the [[Coin]] purchase interface, which is still completely functional and translated) and the [[slot machine]] interface pointers are redirected to the [[Voltorb Flip]] interface instead.
 
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Revision as of 00:18, 7 January 2013

Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, as remakes of Pokémon Gold and Silver, implemented redone elements of the original games. Nonetheless, as individual games, they have gone through similar stages of development as all the other main series games.

Universal development leftovers

Sprites

CoroCoro's editions containing pre-release information of the games depicted earlier sprites for Silver, Chikorita, Pikachu and Pikachu-colored Pichu. Chikorita's leaf was darker.

An earlier back sprite for Ethan was also shown. His hair was slightly different and there was a symbol on his hat. There is also a prototype sprite for Lugia.

Earlier screenshots also depict the Slowpoke Well with a Team Rocket Grunt standing where Proton is in the final release, as was the case with the original Pokémon Gold and Silver. Another screenshot depicts the Mystri Stage in the Sinjoh Ruins with the three circles being identically colored. In the final release, they have three different colors specific to each circle.

Cyndaquil's front sprite in the opening of the games is different from its front sprite used during regular gameplay.

GoldHGSS beta back.png

Spr HGSS Silver Beta.png

Spr 4h 152b.png

Spr 4h 025b.png

Spr 4h 172b s.png

Ethan's prototype back sprite Silver's prototype front sprite Chikorita's prototype front sprite Pikachu's prototype front sprite Pikachu-colored Pichu's prototype front sprite


HGSS Prerelease Ethan vs Silver.png

HGSS Prerelease Slowpoke Well.png

HGSS Prerelease Cynthia Arceus.jpg

Prototype battle screen, showing Ethan's and Silver's aforementioned sprites Slowpoke Well, lacking Proton Earlier version of the Mystri Stage, a platform in the Sinjoh Ruins used for summoning one of the Sinnoh game mascots.


Items

All items present in the programming code of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl and Pokémon Platinum are found in Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, in addition to the latter's exclusive items. Unused items within HeartGold and SoulSilver's programming code include:

  • Photo Album, a key item for storing photos. It was replaced with photo storage integration in the PC;
  • SlowpokeTail, an expensive but useless item. It makes a comeback from the original games and can be obtained through modification of the saved game but it has no function. Interestingly, it was made a key item (it was a regular item in the Generation II games).

Debugging features

The same debugging tools found in the programming code of Pokémon Platinum are also present in Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Localization-specific findings

Due to legal issues related with gambling, the interior design of both Goldenrod and Celadon Game Corners was completely overhauled in all non-Japanese releases of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver. However, the original design is still present within the programming code of the localized releases, despite being severely limited, since most dialogue scripts were removed (with the exception of the Coin purchase interface, which is still completely functional and translated) and the slot machine interface pointers are redirected to the Voltorb Flip interface instead.

Beta versions of Pokémon games
Generation I
Red and GreenYellow
Generation II
Gold and Silver (Spaceworld '97 demo) • Crystal
Generation III
Ruby and SapphireFireRed and LeafGreenEmeraldColosseumXD
Generation IV
Diamond and PearlPlatinumHeartGold and SoulSilver
Generation V
Black and WhiteBlack 2 and White 2
Generation VI
X and YOmega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
Generation VII
Sun and MoonUltra Sun and Ultra Moon
Generation VIII
Sword and Shield
Unreleased
Pokémon Picross


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