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Sky Form Image?

Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --JennyRogue

...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. TTEchidna 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

xD Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --Force Fire 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:44 23 May 2008

Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| Tina^☆♫ 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-lookingPM102 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| Tina^☆♫ 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)PM102 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it's still cute.^__^ PL12 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

oo a girl that's different, that's cool :DPM102 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks like a goat with wings.......C is for Cookie 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! PL12 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

i wish i had a flying goat...Garrison12795

Wow It looks Like Shaymin Bred With Leafeon. I dont get it hows it Sky Form/e. I doesnt look like it can fly, but who knows because Ekans Can swim!!!David Aipom

Well duh snakes can swim. It has wings, but not exactly the aerodymanics to flyPM102 20:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They look like leafs and i didnt expect all snakes to swim.David Aipom

What do you think the wings are supposed to look like for a pure grass-type? and yes all snakes can swimPM102 20:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty obvious that this Shaymin is not pure Grass-type. It's Grass/Flying much like Tropius but Tropius' wings DO look like wings. hfc2X 21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, flyon and giratina have wings and are not of the flying type. If Shaymin does change forme, this will be the first time a Pokémon's type would be changed (excluding Arceus, but the whole point of Arceus's different formes is to have different types)PM102 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

• You forgot that Castform also changes its form and it's type.
• Flygon has Levitate because it can't have 3 types (Dragon/Ground/Flying).
• We don't know if the Origin Forme will have a different ability.

With that in mind it's still possible that Shaymin will be part Flying type, as it's name is "Sky Form(e)". If it ain't Flying type, then it will have Levitate as ability. If not, the name won't be justifying why is it different than the Shaymin we all know. hfc2X 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

You know, it's Sky Forme, not Flying Forme. Just because the sky is up in the air doesn't mean it has anything to do with flying-types. Flygon has wings, and can fly, and it's a part ground type. The type can be completely unpredictablePM102 21:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm just saying that Giratina has wings, not flying type. Flygon too, and it's a ground type, yet it has wings. Castform change is forme is basically because of for the type-change, similar to ArceusPM102 21:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

No Pokémon that live in the sky is not part Flying or has levitate as Ability. I know you think of Giratina, but he lives in the reverse world where there's no sky nor ground. I think it's better to wait what does Platinum tell us (or at least the Giratina's movie). hfc2X 22:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't thinking of Giratina, I'm thinking of Flygon. LOOK, I just think that Shaymin won't change type. Therefore I think it will have Levitate. HEY I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A MAIN SERIES POKéMON GAME IN MY LIFEPM102 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why you try to make me feel stupid, I've never told ya it won't have levitate. I already said that ALL Pokémon, excluding Giratina, that can fly are part Flying-type OR have Levitate as ability. I get your point that Flygon is Ground/Dragon and has wings, but it still flies and has Levitate. I know that maybe Shaymin will have Levitate and I already said that. And finally, if I'm a new user here that doesn't mean that I'm stupid or I know nothing. I did not offend you so you don't offend me, right? hfc2X 22:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Look @ the tail! It could be used as a propeller!--KukiTalk 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

You do all realize that this is fake, right? [1] --☆ケンジガール 01:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

We hadn't seen the news so NO! But who is covering this over @ Bulbanews?--KukiTalk 01:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

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UHM...Am i the only person who sees something a bit WRONG with that image? 0___0 Cos its coming up as porn on my computer... Not that i don't mind porn but still...wtf? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 10:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, wait, let me see. Could be a virus. Does anything else turn up as porn? click on the image that appears when you click the Arceus. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links10:58 25 May 2008

Nothing else is coming up as porn :\ Or coming up as anything it isn't/shouldn't be |: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 11:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Damn. I'm scarred for life. Someone tell me why I keep running into porn on Bulbapedia? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links11:03 25 May 2008

I checked the history and even tried to cut'n'paste on the link...the pic is not coming up as porn for me. Maybe someone switched it back? - Cassius335 12:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

PK Does It Again

Its Fake. Read This:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml David aipom♫

that just says that particular image is fake, and a sky form(e) could still be in existance (or beta) OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 10:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I no, I hope its real and that it looks like this picture because i love its tail. David aipom♫

OMG David aipom are you that dumb. PK made it it is fake. It is not real. ~Crystal~Lucario~

I NO ITS FAKE. I meant the Sky Forme. I just hope it looks like that! David aipom♫

You spelled know wrong. And I hope that it looks like a slightly altered version of that abovePM102 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't like having a fool made out of me we have all been had--lord mada 16:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. PK's fakes are annoyingly good. Hope the real Sky Form(e) looks that good. - Cassius335 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. And the dude responsible congratulated Bulbanews on not jumping on this story... doesn't that make you guys feel warm and fuzzy? --Martonimos_((Talk)) 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this is funny LOL xD hfc2X 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I knew it. (A 'flying' Regigigas form was also reported. I BET it's fake!) I mean, hedgehogs can't change shape, right? Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links08:03 25 May 2008

Nope. Of course, neither can ghost-dragons. OH, WAIT. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 09:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Dragons were based on Serpents. Origine Forme lookse like ae serpente. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links10:02 25 May 2008

shaymin's alternate form??

well hello i'm new but i found this link that someone made an alternate form of shaymin to fool people so take a look at this

plus some news from serebii & from the forums in serebii

however this shaymin sky forme thing could be a massive hoax as serebii said so if you know it, you might as well a look at this also Harith.DS 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Harith.DS

Debated above. It already has been considered fake. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links10:19 25 May 2008

The picture was a fake, but the fact that a sky form exists is true. Shiny Noctowl 12:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Is likely to be truePM102 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why you love to assume, Shiny Noctowl. For now, as no OFFICIAL evidence is provided, we have to consider it fake. Although the Flying Regigigas idea was terrible too. It's Da Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links05:49 26 May 2008 05:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that Shaymin has a Sky Form, though I fear what Regigigas may look like in its alternate form... BlueJirachi 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Another possible form for Shaymin

this is an image of what look like some kind of Shaymin form. it was originally a small image so it is pixelated it looks like it has marijuana on its head? found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is that really Shaymin's alternate form? O_o BlueJirachi 15:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

We don't know yet but it looks abit like an Eevee evolution crossed with a Snover.Davidaipom 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)♂

Chances are that I'm jumping to conclusions, but could that be a Fifth Gen? (Because it looks nothing like Shaymin unless there's a better picture of that Pokémon, and if it has green eyes, THEN it's Shaymin.) BlueJirachi 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't look like a Shymin to me...--Taviource 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

looks angry, whatever he, she, or it is. OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 15:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I repeat the question: Could that be a new Pokémon? BlueJirachi 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It possibly is. It looks NOTHING like any Shaymin.--Taviource 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Not "nothing". --Johans 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And now, question two: if that really is a new Pokémon, does it mean Game Freak still has a few ideas up its sleeve? BlueJirachi 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh! Not just a few. They have a lot! They still have many, many game version titles in their trademark!--Taviource 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible they'll reach 1000? BlueJirachi 16:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

This is NOT a New Pokémon! They have not even revealed the entire Generation IV, what would make them to start the fifth Generation? There's not even a scheduled successor for the DS. Like it or not, IT'S SHAYMIN. - D-Wheel 16:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The Pokemon company is more than likely to keep on going. They are getting so much money, why would they stop? Am I right?--Taviource 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-__- I'm not going to go there... Let's hope an administrator comes by and see what he (or she) says about this. BlueJirachi 16:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Just because they are admins, that doesn't mean they'll know what it is...THey'll just give their own opinion which is no different than our's.--Taviource 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we're sitting Psyduck... -__- BlueJirachi 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

At the unpredicatability rate we're going, that "thing" (if real) will probably be on Brock's team by the 11th movie. Granted, odds are better for the current teams of all of the main characters save Pikachu and Meowth having reached their final evolutionary forms by that point in time than that mystery creature ending up on Brock's team...--Shiningpikablu252 16:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

That still doesn't explain what it is.--Taviource 16:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's Shaymin somewhat, since Shaymin's head is connected to it's body without a neck to seperate. Gywall 16:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but if it is a Shaymin, it is a different form of it, which would explain why it has a neck. And is that a rose on its back?--Taviource 16:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you might be on to something. If only they had a better picture! BlueJirachi 17:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

DOes anyone have a program where they can blow up the picture without losing any resolution?--Taviource 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I was Zooming into the picture and pixelating the picture as I went to take a closer look. Now I KNOW 90% that it is NOT a Shaymin! It has Yellow years and two huge antlers. Could it be the pre-evolutional form of Stantler?--Taviource 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! A new Pokémon?! BlueJirachi 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And the thing that looks like a rose appears to be its TAIL. IT HAS CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!It all makes sense!--Taviource 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Platinum is coming out this fall in Japan. (The successor to Diamond and Pearl.)BlueJirachi 17:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, not surprising. I knew about it even before CoroCoro released it. THis Pokemon MUST be a Gen V!--Taviource 17:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Platinum is not Gen V. Besides, it looks like Leafeon with a way wrong color scheme. It's clear another artist drew those Pokémon. Pikacku even looks off... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mother of Palkia! I can't believe this! BlueJirachi 17:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

We know Platinum is not Gen V. BlueJirachi was just mentioning it...And BlueJirachi, You gotta believe it, cause this is reality!--Taviource 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

(Jaw hangs open) This is just like Munchlax in Destiny Deoxys! BlueJirachi 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Since this isn't Shaymin, we're moving this Pokemon's talk page to mine.--Taviource 18:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's this sticker that was found. This is looking a lot more legit than the other disaster. Toastypk 07:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

And no, it is not the Munchlax. Please, people. Deoxys was known far and wide in that exact movie. Arceus? He's too busy killing whatever you idiots made up. For the last time, IT IS NOT REAL SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT THIS 'CUP'. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links08:03 7 Jun 2008

more yet evidence.however unconfirmed source for this image of Shaymin found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 11:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The CUP is not fake, but I think this sticker is. hfc2X 15:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

OK we can't deny it now. The first image was posted On a Japanese Blog blue skY obtained images of some badges set for release at the end of the month to promote the 11th movie. The second image is a reconstruction done by PoKeSaFaRi who I'm sure we all thank very much. --lord mada 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

• frowns* Why does it have wings on only one side? - Cassius335 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure will see when the film is released and we see it in flight --lord mada 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

So can we finally add this to Shaymin's page? I'd do it myself, but of course the article is locked preventing info from being added to it, except by a few people. Also someone on deviantart made a really neat sky form sprite, I'm going to see what he thinks of bulbapedia using it. Toastypk 17:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

well it was confirmed on serebii that this is a confirmed sky forme of shaymin and it is grass/flying

Sky Forme is a fake

Not sure if any of you guys have seen this page, but it was all a hoax. Sky Forme and all.

Hoax History NSFW. Well, one image is, but the rest of the site you might not enjoy.

Good news is that that might be a new Poke'mon on the cup.

That version of the Sky Forme is fake, yes, but as far as the cup goes, no, I don't think it's some Gen V Pokémon. TTEchidna 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

New Generation=New console. We don't even have a new console (DS LITE IS NOT COUNTED. IT FUNCTIONS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGNAL DS) It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links07:58 7 Jun 2008

The unknown Pokémon shown on the cup is Sky Forme Shaymin. The cup image was posted on an official web site and subsequently removed. There is a trademark registered for both "Sky Forme" and "Land Forme", and as of now, the original Shaymin is officially known as Land Forme. Sky Forme's announcement is imminent, but due to an error, we've already seen a glimpse of it on said cup.

The latest image is most likely real, as well. If nothing more, it gives us a better idea of what Sky Forme looks like in the previous image. Anyone who thinks this is a new Pokémon is fooling themselves. Unown Lord 08:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

So there is a Sky Forme...Hmm, I never thought it was an official site. Is it? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:02 7 Jun 2008

It is. Here is a screenshot of the page that was available to be viewed yesterday, only to be brought down since then. Unown Lord 09:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. Now...put it on Shaymin's page? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:19 7 Jun 2008

I have added a trivia paragraph explaining the meaning of "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme". The images should be dealt by Bulbanews for the time being. Unown Lord 10:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

You may wish to reword that paragraph. It reads like speculation. - Cassius335 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't see how it does. The facts are stated without confusing the present with the future. --Unown Lord 07:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Have another look at the 'it seems evident' bit. It just screams 'this is an opinion'. - Cassius335 11:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It has green eyes. Shaymin has green eyes. BlueJirachi 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I see you gave in --lord mada 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean that. I just pointed it out. But is that really a rose on its back, because now I'm all screwed up. BlueJirachi 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I meant Unown Lord gave in not you. I'm not really sure if it is a rose or wings or whatever it is but we will see one the film comes out won't we. --lord mada 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. If it is wings, then those are the oddest-looking wings I've ever seen.BlueJirachi 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

tropius --lord mada 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make Shaymin a Grass-Flying Pokémon? BlueJirachi 15:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

No what I'm saying is tropius' wings are odd-looking too --lord mada 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It might, but that'd be very unusual. It might be Grass-type with Levitate ability, which would be more reasonable. Gywall 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it will just be a grass type with a different forme, same ability and a slightly different move set and the forme will return to land forme when traded with d/p but if they change the ability it could cause problems for D/P but changing the move set wont be a problem for the previous games to handle --lord mada 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you had Deoxys battles in Gen III? They're totally safe despite Deoxys has totally different base stats in every game (only the sprites are a bit annoying). I think this won't be the exception. How do you know? Maybe the game engine has been developed to ensure compatibility even if the same Pokémon has a different ability in another version of the game (or even different type combination). hfc2X 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If there was a sprite for sky forme in D/P we would know. Like we know about Arceus' ??? forme it would be in D/P game data in the game data. OK I think I'm possibly wrong about the ability --lord mada 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you ever considered it is just like Deoxys? There are different forms depending on which version the Pokémon is in. Giritina will probably go through this. As will the "supposed" Sky Forme of Shaymin.GJ 23:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've considered it now and I agree --lord mada 23:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

So can we finally unlock this?

There is so much confirmed information I (and I'm sure others) want to add, but the article is locked. This isn't a rumor anymore.

-Pictures of Sky form (scan, sprite)
-Height and Weight

Among other bits of info. Toastypk 17:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Also Sugimori art and anime art. tc26 23:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin Sky Form: File:ShayminSky.png

Do you have a cleaned-up version of Sky Form Shaymin's sprite? --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

We probably won't have that until someone gets their hands on the game. - Cassius335 21:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

We have Giratina's Platinum sprite, and it was also just extracted from a CoroCoro page. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 23:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I have a cleaned up sprite. - GanLnkZld 7:42, 17 June 2008(UTC)

upload it then call it "Spr 4p 492.png" --lord mada 14:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I did that, but it didn't show up on the Shaymin page. And you can't edit anything on that page which totally sucks. Also, I'm pretty new here; is there an administrator that can help put it up? - GanLnkZld 16:23, 17 June 2008(UTC)

Nothing you can edit on this page can solve that problem. Check the page again tomorrow. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Now wait, is it the real sprite or is it a custom sprite? I just saw what you uploaded to the archives. That is a terrible quality and it is unacceptable. -Sketchies 16:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

source of sprite

It may not be a brilliant extract from the image we have but it is real and we aren't getting the sprite properly until the game comes out. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Then we shouldn't have it at all. Period. -Sketchies 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

We need it, it's just temporary for now and once the game comes out we'll get its crisp, beautifully-rendered form, but until then this crappy screenshot which isn't full size is all we're gonna get. TTEchidna 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree. it's nicer looking than a broken link anyway --lord mada 17:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Is this the picture you saw, because I uploaded two. One of them was very crappy. This is the better one. - GanLnkZld 19:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)File:Shaymin Sky Sprite 2.png