Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 5

ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!

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Ash's Gible...

Look, I tried to insert it in because it's fact that he's getting one. If it was just people talking on the forum, then I could let it stay off. However, we have had a Yahoo Japanese Shopping Catalogue AND Amazon.com explicitly refer to a Gible Toy that's being released as being "Ash's Gible". THAT'S why it needs to be in this article's trivia section, if anywhere. Don't believe me? Check these out:

1. http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/mizota/100700793.html 2. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=10540887&postcount=1 3. http://www.amazon.co.jp/バンダイ-ポケットモンスター-キメわざポケモンキッズDP4-BOX-食玩/dp/B002QQ7C4I

Ok, so technically, number two was a forum post, but it supplied the translation of what #1 said. For number 3, here's the Japanese Text:

商品紹介 ポケモンがわざを繰り出す瞬間を立�� �化した『キメわざポケモンキッズ』D Pシリーズ第4弾。幻のポケモンの「ア ルセウス」「ジラーチ」を中心にル�� �ー・サファイヤの初期ポケモンであ� ��「キモリ」「アチャモ」「ミズゴロ ウ」もラインナップ。さらにサトシ�� �新たなる仲間のポケモンとなる「フ� ��マル」をラインナップしている。（ 全15種類）

Also, Babelfish did a translation on the last portion of the sentence, and here's what it said:

"Furthermore it becomes [pokemon] of the companion where [satoshi] becomes new “[fukamaru]” is lined up. (All the 15 types)"

Weedle Mchairybug 19:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Remeber.....Wait until it happens! Never Give Up Pika 19:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

How do you know that the catalog didn't see the title of DP145 and automatically assumed Ash was going to capture Gible? I wouldn't be surprised. And these stupid websites take forever to update their information. --ケンジのガール 19:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Simple, they said "by the end of the year". If they were referring to DP145, they wouldn't have said "by the end of the year" (By the end of the year implies that it would happen by the last week of December, not in the middle of September). Weedle Mchairybug 19:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

End of the year doesn't always mean the last week of December. Sometimes it can mean the beginning of Fall. The episode aired October 1st. They saw the air date and just said "the end of the year". And for all I know, it's not an accurate translation. It's best to keep this off the pages. --ケンジのガール 20:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Weedle, we can't be 100% sure of anything. It's not fact, it's speculation. It might happen. It might not happen. Not to mention, even if it's true, it's a spoiler. --electAbuzzzz 20:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, either way, Bulbanews just announced that Ash will be catching a Gible. - unsigned comment from Weedle Mchairybug (talk • contribs)

Well, either way, we wait 'til it happens. That's how it is, and how's its been for awhile. The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 01:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the section about Ash as a character

Much of it is convoluted and poorly constructed. The problem appears to be that new contributions are not seamlessly integrated with those already in place, resulting in a lack of observable rhyme or reason. This hinders the flow of the writing, making the entire segment sub-par.

Bulbapedia has standards for a reason, and it is to avoid something like this happening as the result of numerous individuals contributing to one article. As it stands, I feel the entire section should be cleaned up and revised. Vipera 21:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I Agree. - Vhayes1992 22:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Go on then. Show us what you're made of ;) —darklordtrom 05:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Forgive me if I misinterpreted the tone of your comment, but I read it as being awfully snide.

I've already done some minor stylistic and grammatical revision to the section in question and plan to overhaul it using the information already present, but that's about all I can do. I'm not as knowledgeable about Ash as most others here since I'm only up to EP224 and therefore hesitant to make contributions in the form of information - I would likely be mistaken on many subjects since my anime experience is incomplete at best and woefully lacking at the very worst.

The appeal of a wiki lies in the fact that multiple users can contribute to a single article in numerous ways, as each brings to the table different skill sets and areas of expertise. That is why I've called attention to this issue. I can't make the necessary improvements alone. Vipera 06:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Uh, sorry. I didn't mean it like that and I don't consider myself to be a "snide" person. I was merely trying to encourage you to be bold and take on the section. I know less about the anime than you do, otherwise I'd offer help as well. One of the things I enjoy about a wiki is going out and editing something, and watching how others adapt and improve my own work. —darklordtrom 08:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Telepathic side of Aura and Pikachu

I was thinking, is it possible that Ash was using Latent Aura powers to understand Pikachu? I know it wasn't invented till gen 4, but it's something to mention as a possibility. --Jono R 22:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats speculation, probabaly not true SpecialK Leiks Lucario and believe in Missingno. Master's Celebi Glitch because i caught one! 15:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Azelf

I think Azelf should be added, because not only was it legendary. But also because Ash commanded it and he actually had a telepathic bond to it. Aside from Riolu how often does that happen? --Dman dustin 22:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Didn't do it for Riolu, why do it for Azelf? --ケンジのガール 23:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to say that it's because Azelf had more of a story than Riolu. This whole Pixie storyline began with Dawn and Mesprit. Which culminated to DP151 and DP152. Where we have Ash, Brock, and Dawn being telepathically connected to the pixies. Ash, Brock, and Dawn could feel when something bad happened to them. And when the pixies were in real trouble, the human trio teleported to them from Cynthia's Jeep right in the middle of Team Galactic's headquarters. Then when Ash, Brock, and Dawn saved them from the red crystal/chain the pixies allowed them to order them commands. Besides how are Raichu, Spoink, and Mantyke more notable? Raichu only got an episode while Spoink and Mantyke got very little screen time. How they are more notable then Riolu or Azelf is beyond me. --Dman dustin 02:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

My two cents: I think Ash's connection with Azelf is totally important, and I was very nearly about to side with you, but after thinking about it I figured that if Azelf were to be added, it would have to be in a "befriended" section. And if we gave Ash a "befriended" section, then we'd have to list ALL the Pokemon he befriended, and I think that alone could very well crash the server. (An exaggeration, but you get the point.) But their connection should still be mentioned - and I think it's possibly even important enough to be given its own paragraph in the "character" section, instead of just being added on to the paragraph about his connection with legendary Pokemon. I say this because there was buildup to this over the course of DP, and is thus monumental enough to have quite a bit said about it. The same goes for Dawn and Brock, and their respective pixies. 梅子^❀_✿ 02:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Ash's VA died

Ash's current German VA, Veronika Neugebauer, apparently died in 11th October Link. Think it should be mentioned somewhere? J-J-M 00:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

...no. It could be an article on Bulbanews. CuboneKing 00:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say news it. TTEchidna 00:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

That is tragic and a person who works for pokemon should be recognized AT LEAST. - Vhayes1992 01:34, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Well if it is to be mentioned, it shouldn't be later. It's already been quite some time since she died. J-J-M 14:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

There's a template on Bulbanews that says "this article was made late". CuboneKing 17:35, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Let's do it up. - Vhayes1992 19:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

DP156- Protection Request!

The title has been revealed, so i think Ash's Page should be protected, along with the episode as well. thanks- User:BAC510 21 November 2009, 18:39 (UTC)

Don't forget the Gible page. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 18:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

If someone ruins it for everyone else, then we'll do it then. Why inconvenience the other editors? —darklordtrom 06:35, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Ash's befriended pokemon

someone that knows more about editing the pages should put a full list of all legendary pokemon ash has encountered and befriended - unsigned comment from Refresh12 (talk • contribs)

Bulbapedia does not list the vast number of Pokémon Ash has befriended simply because there are so many. The only main character who gets a "befriended" section is Max on account of him having no Poké Balls. —darklordtrom 02:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

There's already a list of the legendaries he has a connection with in the actual text anyway. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 14:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

VA list

The bit about Jamie Peacock should be edited to say (first dub only) next to the Mastermind part, to avoid confusion. Flicky1991 20:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible?

To protect only the Pokémon section of this article? Just to prevent people from unhiding the you-know-what.--ForceFire 02:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

No. If it becomes a problem, the whole article will have to be protected. —darklordtrom 03:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Hoenn Lineup Trivia

Should it be noted that each of the Pokémon Ash caught in Hoenn was weak to the type of the Pokémon that was placed on his Hoenn line up before it? If that didn't make sense, here is a bit better/ easier way of explaining it: Pikachu/Electric > Tailow/Flying > Treecko/Grass > Corphish/Water > Torkoal/Fire > Snorunt/Ice. If its notable enough, then could an administrator add it?--Skystar 20:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

He did this in every region, if I remember correctly.--WikiTomas 09:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Not Sinnoh. Ground/Flying isn't super effective against Ground/Dragon. In Kanto, he caught Muk then Tauros. In Johto he caught Totodile then Noctowl, and Water isn't strong against Flying/Normal. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Stub?

This article seems to be categorized as a stub. I assume this is some sort of mistake, but is there actually a reason? --Jared 05:14, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

The "In the manga" section is stubbish --ZestyCactus 05:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)