Talk:Pokémon the Series: Black & White

I've a question

As with both the Advanced Generation and Diamond & Pearl series before it, the Best Wishes series begins with only Ash Ketchum, headed off to a new region with his Pikachu.

So far as I've seen, there is absolutely no confirmation that Ash will even be the main character in this series; Japanese fans are throwing around rumors that he's going to be taking Brock's role. So why is speculative crap like that being presented on this page as fact? We don't know anything about the series, and we shouldn't pretend that we do.

But if I'm wrong by all means, point me towards official confirmation of everything mentioned on this page. 梅子^❀_✿ 17:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

They're probably just going on tradition. It won't be for a very long while until the series starts, so the sentence can just probably be removed altogether until then. Mudkipchan 18:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

It comes from the "leaked" sketch of "Iris" it had Ash in BW Guy Protagonist's clothing. While they may have changed their mind and such, since it looked like a rough/beta sketch. "Iris" does match the silhouette of the BW Anime Heroine, and both "Iris" and Ash were pretty much detailed pretty good, so there is a very likely chance (if that's not confirmation) that Ash will be in the B/W series.--Dman dustin 04:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

She never said that Ash wouldn't be in the show, though- more that Ash won't be the main character like he always is, and taking on more of a side role like Brock... ▫▫ティナ^♫★ 04:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Um...is that really true?--Darknesslover5000 02:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

The New Girl

I may have overlooked it, but does anyone have a link to any official confirmation that the name of the new heroine is Iris? --Pkmn veteran 03:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Now that I've thought about it, I'm assuming the name came from the leaked line art which was on a Chinese site. Correct me if I'm wrong. --Pkmn veteran 02:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep, that sketch is where people are getting it from. --HoennMaster 03:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Air date?

When does this series air?--Darknesslover5000 09:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Upon the conclusion of the Diamond & Pearl series. It is currently unknown how many more episodes the DP series will have, so it is unknown what date it will air. Werdnae (talk) 10:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

alright. thank you--Darknesslover5000 10:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Not confirmed

Some of the info (such as Dawn/Brock leaving) has not been explicitly confirmed. Though Dawn's departure is probable, this inbformation is not accurate as it hasn't been confirmed. I'll edit it out for the meanwhile. Bubblewrap 15:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Now, I don't know if anyone's flat out said "BROCK AND DAWN ARE NOT IN THE SHOW" but there's been a few official sources which have more or less said they're both out of the show. --ZestyCactus 15:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

(I just realised I can't edit this page!). I know those articles do pretty much confirm it - but I'm sure they could be taken in a different way. We haven't seen any official character images, so we can't say for sure even if it looks very likely. I'm not sure, it's not too big of a problem but I think it could be taken the wrong way. Bubblewrap 15:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes we have. Brock and Dawn are gone. TTEchidna 23:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Reimu

Is it official? I remember that such name was only used in a description of the anime that was proven false (the same one saying that Koromori was currently being called "Kurimori" and stuff). The author (some guy from Serebii Forums) came and admitted he created it all. - D-Wheel 00:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

The TV Tokyo site calls him Dento. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 00:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Would it be... "デント"? "Dent"? Sounds... fine, I guess... and somewhat "western", like Iris, Cheren, Bel, Aloe... - D-Wheel 00:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, is it Dento, or Dent? Just curious. Like how Iris' is Airisu(not sure if it is right). --Midnight Blue 00:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit

This page still refers to Dento as Reimu, a rumor which was proved false a long time ago. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 23:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Not in the games.

• The Best Wishes series is the only anime series since the original series to have no game protagonists among Ash's group, and so far the only anime series not to have any characters who appear in the games among Ash's friends.

How do we know this is the case? For all we know they could be gym leaders. - unsigned comment from Billyt506 (talk • contribs)

Gym Leaders don't count. It's referring to Player characters --HoennMaster 15:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Then I guess that trivia is wrong. If gym leaders don't count then the original series also falls into this category. --Billt506 14:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Well Ash counts as being based on Red, unless Ash doesn't count. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Dento by Ken Sugimori User:Hikaru Wazana

Dento is a Game Character.....

On serebii.net, it talks about Dento being a game character, so for now, only Iris is the anime-only character joining Ash's group. So that trivia should be taken down. User:BAC510 August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)

August 3rd, 2010: Dento has been revealed to be a Game Character by Yahoo Japan. There's also a Sugimori Art which confirms this. - unsigned comment from Didich (talk • contribs)

Settle down people. We don't need a million people posting the same thing. It will be updated soon. --HoennMaster 18:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Just wanted to point out that there being Sugimori art of a character doesn't prove anything. I mean in this context it's pretty much confirmed that Dento is a game character, but if having Sugimori artwork were the definitive confirmation for being a game character, then all the movie characters would be game characters, too. 梅子^❀_✿ 19:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Jenny don't appears in Pokemon Yellow?? User:Hikaru Wazana August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)

That's not the point. :| 梅子^❀_✿ 19:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Link to page for Iris A page for Iris has been created already, but her name is red.Patrickmck 11:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Dammit. We're getting rid of the outdated first Gym Leader only to replace him... with the first Gym Leader. TTEchidna 07:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

"The Best Wishes series is the only anime series since the original series to have no in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." How exactly is this true? Brock, Misty and Tracey Sketchit were never player characters. There was Todd Snap sure, but it's not like it specifies that, and he was a temporary traveling companion. Rai Marshall 07:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it's because Ash is based on Red.--Pokélova! 07:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it refers to May and Dawn joining him in AG and DP. Both of them are counterparts of playable characters in RSE and DPPt. In BW, neither the boy nor the girl from Black and White join him. ^tc²₆tc₂₆ 07:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Ash is indeed based on Red, but that piece of trivia specifically mentions 'in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." And the piece of trivia mentions original series, and not AG or DP. Rai Marshall 07:54, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

"The Best Wishes series is the only anime series since the original series to have no in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." Its saying AG and DP have player characters (counterparts), and that the Original and BW series do not. たかはりい 07:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh I get it now, I misread the darn thing. Gee, I'm sorry everyone. Rai Marshall 08:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I read it wrong too. >_< Sorry.--Pokélova! 10:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

And Ash is based on an 'in-game playable character' and he is in Ash' group, so the trivia is incorrect this way. Perhaps you should add 'from the most recent generation games' - unsigned comment from Bigtukker (talk • contribs)

Ash's name isn't Red, nor does he have the same clothes. He's more loosely based on a game character, unlike Dawn and May. TTEchidna 08:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Interlanguage

Please add [[de:Staffel 14]]. Also, the Japanese link doesn't work (the article does not exist there). Thanks in advance.--Afrael ^talk 15:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Season 14 won't be the BW series, it'll be the first BW season. Like AG isn't season 6, it's 6, 7, 8, and 9, and DP isn't season 10, it's 10, 11, 12, and 13. TTEchidna 08:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Dento replacing Brock.

Are we absolutely certain that Dento is the one who replaces Brock? For all we know, he would share that position with Shooti, or that Shooti is the one who actually replaces Brock, and Dento is an actual new character. Weedle Mchairybug 12:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Or Shooti replaces Ash. We haven't seen Ash since that leaked character model sheet. TTEchidna 08:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

That's not what the article says. --ケンジのガール 08:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. 'Cause the best source for Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia. So, the article is always right (but believe me, I've reverted dozens of bad edits which were done because "other article said so"). Don't treat Bulbapedia as a source for itself, it's one of the most annoying things here (but it always happens when a big source becomes reliable). --Maxim 08:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

We really need to make any references to Ash transparent, since he has not made any appearances in any promotional materials aside from the leaked concept art, which is proven to be even less reliable for determining something than previews. I mean, we have had countless concept art of Pokemon that would be appearing in Pokemon only for it to turn out that the Pokemon in question never even appeared. Until Ash actually appears in a BW trainer, even for a minute, we shouldn't treat it as though Ash will be appearing in the region. Weedle Mchairybug 12:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Ash wasn't in any DP promotion until right before the series started. Just saying. --HoennMaster 19:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

This IS right before the series is going to start. We would have gotten something about Ash by now that isn't a character model sheet. I won't completely rule out the possibility, but the fact that they are still keeping Ash out makes the chances of him being the main character less. At this point in AG, we already knew that Ash was in it, and instead we were wondering if Paul replaced Brock. - unsigned comment from Weedle Mchairybug (talk • contribs)

We don't even know when the series starts so we can't technically say it is right before the show starts. Who cares anyway, this discussion is about Brock and Dento, not Ash. --HoennMaster 21:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I only brought up Ash because TTEchidna mentioned it. Not that it matters, though. And yes, we do know when the series starts (It starts the same day Pokemon Black and White is released.). Anyways, we should at the very least remove that bit about Dento replacing Brock as we don't even know the full details. Weedle Mchairybug 23:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No we don't know when the series starts. The anime airs on Thursday and the games are coming out Saturday. They aren't airing the same day. --HoennMaster 00:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Premiere Date?

Can anyone confirm if this is real. If so BW is starting September 23. --HoennMaster 22:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Air date & Pikachu confirmation

Like on BulbaNews, The air date has been confirmed. And a Pikachu will appear. I'd say add Pikachu, but it's not confirmed it's Ash's Pikachu (We all know what some people are like with concrete confirmation) --samm -- 00:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

--Yeah, Ash is in it. See the trailer after DP189. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6-pmMU7_ug&feature=player_embedded

Also, new poster. Should we use this? It looks a lot spiffier than the current one. --YakobTheRed 18:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)