Talk:Tauros (Pokémon)

Tauros <-> Miltank?

In the articles, it is said that Tauros and Miltank are Male/Female equivalents. I don't think this is true. --PikamasterADV 02:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I imagine that's Nintendo's intent... but is there concrete proof? Like, will breeding Miltank with anything end with a Tauros from the egg? Heck, is there that sort of connection between the Nidos or Volbeat and Illumise? Should something be mentioned, perhaps in Evolutions, of very closely related Pokémon? Such as, Plusle appearing next to Minun in its article, or both Nido families being in the evo area of all six? I've wanted to put something like that in there for a while, but I dunno how appropriate it'd be...

I suppose, though, it's like the Hitmonlee/chan relation that was theory before GS proved it. But should we acknowledge stuff like it here? Tom Temprotran 06:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not that hard to confirm experimentally. (Of course, myself neither a Nidoran♀ nor Miltank nor Illumise to breed poses a problem...) - 振霖_T 07:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but still, something closely related like Plusle and Minun can't produce mixed children, Minuns make Minuns, Plusles make Plusles. But they're still closely related. It's like... eh, Latios and Latias, or the three members of a legendary trio. Closely related, but still separate. And as far as I know, the female-only counterparts only produce their own species of children, with males needed to be bred by way of Ditto, but I could be wrong with the Nidoran families.

But you know what I mean... Like Pokémon that sort of play off each other, as counterparts instead of relatives. Sort of like... the Eeveelutions if you cut Eevee out of the picture. If you didn't know they all evolved from the same Pokémon, you'd in the very least suspect some relation, right? But how far would we go with this thing? Do the Hitmons and Jynx count as counterparts? What about Electabuzz and Magmar? Every time a new member of one of their evolution lines was added, so was a member of the other at the same stage, which evolves to or from it with a similar method, and falls next to it in the National Dex in the same order. Are Feebas and Magikarp related? Zangoose and Seviper? All of the Fossil Pokémon? Manaphy and Phione? Should they be put in the evolution section with each other?

Anyone? Thoughts? Tom Temprotran 10:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Evolution sets should only be those provable to be related to each other. This includes the Nidoran families, since a Female Nidoran can have baby Male Nidorans. No provable relationship exists between Magmar and Electabuzz, or between Tauros and Miltank.User142 (Talk) 13:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are you including Magmar and Electabuzz in this mess? They come in both genders--Pokencyclopedia 16:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

They're pretty similar, that's why. They both can learn the other's punch move by breeding or move tutor, both got a baby form in Gen II and an evolution in Gen IV... They go through the same evolution processes, baby > lv30 > basic > trade with Booster item > evo, so I dunno. They just seem very similar to me. Anyway, should the Nido families be interlinked, then, since you can get Nidoran male eggs from a Nidoran female? Tom Temprotran 20:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I think this question should be asked at the talk page of female Nidoran(where I copied the question to) or Talk:Nidoran♂ (Pokémon). User142 (Talk) 13:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I could have sworn Tauros and Miltank were related, but I guess they aren't. I put a Tauros and Miltank in the daycare and got 10 eggs. All 10 of them hatched into Miltank. So either I have extremely bad luck, or they are not counterparts and any such references to them as such should be removed from Bulbapedia. MK 07:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I just hatched 10 more eggs from Tauros and Ditto in the daycare together. All 10 of them became Tauros. Has anyone actually gotten a Tauros from a Miltank's egg, or a Miltank from a Tauros+Ditto's egg? Seems to me this is just wishful thinking and not an actual relation. MK 11:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I think there's sufficient absence of evidence to be taken as evidence of absence (of relationship, that is). - 振霖_T 14:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fanwanking. They are two different Pokémon --Maxim 17:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Taros and Miltank are not counterparts, even though they are similiar. Boy, the whole Pokémon world is going to be astonished. - Hazardous FIRE! 00:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

uh...dont want to start an agrument, but yes they are.Shiny Pika 22:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

You do realize that is from 2008, right. Anyways, they aren't confirmed to be counterparts and the only evidence for it is the cow/bull thing. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to continue the conversation, but there is more evidence than that. They're both mono-gender Normal-types with base stat totals of 490, their Special Attack and Special Defense are identical, and they're always found in the same locations when not in a Safari Zone (with the strange exception of the HG/SS-only Routes 47 and 48, which each contain only one.) Diamond and Pearl treated them as counterparts, as (when using the Pokeradar on the routes that include them, 209 and 210), their rarities are swapped between the two games, with Platinum giving them the same chances, while all Johto-based games have them with equal rarity on Route 39 and almost-equal on Route 38 (Crystal fixed that, making them exactly equal again.) In fact, though this one is a bit of a reach, Miltank is found in Colosseum's final dungeon, and Tauros in XD's final dungeon. It may not be "officially" official, but there's a lot more to it than them just being cattle. --HeroicJay 12:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Ground-type

I've got a memory that Tauros was at least once said that it was Ground-type in the anime. Maybe if someone knows when, we can mention it... for sure, I can't remember when...--DRAGONBEAST^X 09:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you associating Tauros using Fissure with it being a Ground-type? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic. 20:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Name Origin

I don't think Tauros' name is derived from centaur. They share a common root - taurus, Latin for "bull".

Worth mentioning?

Does anyone think that it's necessary to say that the creator of serebii caught every Pokémon except this one? Arrogios 23:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

No. It isn't notable at all. Werdnae (talk) 23:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Red/Green Pic, WTH??

Okay, why is artwork from Red and Green being used as the main image for this article? I got the distinct feeling that around here the main artwork was always the most modern artwork of said Pokémon/Character.--Black Yin Zekrom 00:50, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The PokéInfobox template rotates the images every so often. ^ht14 00:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It's never done that before. On top of that, when looking at revisions, it shows the modern artwork. If that isn't enough, I tried editing the page, and in the area that told what versions the picture is from, it showed "FRLG".--Black Yin Zekrom 01:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)