Talk:Tauros (Pokémon)

Tauros <-> Miltank?

In the articles, it is said that Tauros and Miltank are Male/Female equivalents. I don't think this is true. --PikamasterADV 02:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I imagine that's Nintendo's intent... but is there concrete proof? Like, will breeding Miltank with anything end with a Tauros from the egg? Heck, is there that sort of connection between the Nidos or Volbeat and Illumise? Should something be mentioned, perhaps in Evolutions, of very closely related Pokémon? Such as, Plusle appearing next to Minun in its article, or both Nido families being in the evo area of all six? I've wanted to put something like that in there for a while, but I dunno how appropriate it'd be...

I suppose, though, it's like the Hitmonlee/chan relation that was theory before GS proved it. But should we acknowledge stuff like it here? Tom Temprotran 06:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not that hard to confirm experimentally. (Of course, myself neither a Nidoran♀ nor Miltank nor Illumise to breed poses a problem...) - 振霖_T 07:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but still, something closely related like Plusle and Minun can't produce mixed children, Minuns make Minuns, Plusles make Plusles. But they're still closely related. It's like... eh, Latios and Latias, or the three members of a legendary trio. Closely related, but still separate. And as far as I know, the female-only counterparts only produce their own species of children, with males needed to be bred by way of Ditto, but I could be wrong with the Nidoran families.

But you know what I mean... Like Pokémon that sort of play off each other, as counterparts instead of relatives. Sort of like... the Eeveelutions if you cut Eevee out of the picture. If you didn't know they all evolved from the same Pokémon, you'd in the very least suspect some relation, right? But how far would we go with this thing? Do the Hitmons and Jynx count as counterparts? What about Electabuzz and Magmar? Every time a new member of one of their evolution lines was added, so was a member of the other at the same stage, which evolves to or from it with a similar method, and falls next to it in the National Dex in the same order. Are Feebas and Magikarp related? Zangoose and Seviper? All of the Fossil Pokémon? Manaphy and Phione? Should they be put in the evolution section with each other?

Anyone? Thoughts? Tom Temprotran 10:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Evolution sets should only be those provable to be related to each other. This includes the Nidoran families, since a Female Nidoran can have baby Male Nidorans. No provable relationship exists between Magmar and Electabuzz, or between Tauros and Miltank.User142 (Talk) 13:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are you including Magmar and Electabuzz in this mess? They come in both genders--Pokencyclopedia 16:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

They're pretty similar, that's why. They both can learn the other's punch move by breeding or move tutor, both got a baby form in Gen II and an evolution in Gen IV... They go through the same evolution processes, baby > lv30 > basic > trade with Booster item > evo, so I dunno. They just seem very similar to me. Anyway, should the Nido families be interlinked, then, since you can get Nidoran male eggs from a Nidoran female? Tom Temprotran 20:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I think this question should be asked at the talk page of female Nidoran(where I copied the question to) or Talk:Nidoran♂ (Pokémon). User142 (Talk) 13:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I could have sworn Tauros and Miltank were related, but I guess they aren't. I put a Tauros and Miltank in the daycare and got 10 eggs. All 10 of them hatched into Miltank. So either I have extremely bad luck, or they are not counterparts and any such references to them as such should be removed from Bulbapedia. MK 07:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I just hatched 10 more eggs from Tauros and Ditto in the daycare together. All 10 of them became Tauros. Has anyone actually gotten a Tauros from a Miltank's egg, or a Miltank from a Tauros+Ditto's egg? Seems to me this is just wishful thinking and not an actual relation. MK 11:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I think there's sufficient absence of evidence to be taken as evidence of absence (of relationship, that is). - 振霖_T 14:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fanwanking. They are two different Pokémon --Maxim 17:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Taros and Miltank are not counterparts, even though they are similiar. Boy, the whole Pokémon world is going to be astonished. - Hazardous FIRE! 00:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

uh...dont want to start an agrument, but yes they are.Shiny Pika 22:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

You do realize that is from 2008, right. Anyways, they aren't confirmed to be counterparts and the only evidence for it is the cow/bull thing. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to continue the conversation, but there is more evidence than that. They're both mono-gender Normal-types with base stat totals of 490, their Special Attack and Special Defense are identical, and they're always found in the same locations when not in a Safari Zone (with the strange exception of the HG/SS-only Routes 47 and 48, which each contain only one.) Diamond and Pearl treated them as counterparts, as (when using the Pokeradar on the routes that include them, 209 and 210), their rarities are swapped between the two games, with Platinum giving them the same chances, while all Johto-based games have them with equal rarity on Route 39 and almost-equal on Route 38 (Crystal fixed that, making them exactly equal again.) In fact, though this one is a bit of a reach, Miltank is found in Colosseum's final dungeon, and Tauros in XD's final dungeon. It may not be "officially" official, but there's a lot more to it than them just being cattle. --HeroicJay 12:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Ground-type

I've got a memory that Tauros was at least once said that it was Ground-type in the anime. Maybe if someone knows when, we can mention it... for sure, I can't remember when...--DRAGONBEAST^X 09:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you associating Tauros using Fissure with it being a Ground-type? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic. 20:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Name Origin

I don't think Tauros' name is derived from centaur. They share a common root - taurus, Latin for "bull".

Worth mentioning?

Does anyone think that it's necessary to say that the creator of serebii caught every Pokémon except this one? Arrogios 23:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

No. It isn't notable at all. Werdnae (talk) 23:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Red/Green Pic, WTH??

Okay, why is artwork from Red and Green being used as the main image for this article? I got the distinct feeling that around here the main artwork was always the most modern artwork of said Pokémon/Character.--Black Yin Zekrom 00:50, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The PokéInfobox template rotates the images every so often. ^ht14 00:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It's never done that before. On top of that, when looking at revisions, it shows the modern artwork. If that isn't enough, I tried editing the page, and in the area that told what versions the picture is from, it showed "FRLG".--Black Yin Zekrom 01:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I saw that already, though... the most recent edit is 7/4/10. I dunno. That edit isn't anything special, just upgrading the roundy. Lemme check the PokéInfobox of Tauros. Sorry. When editing, it allows me to preview (preferences), and well, the image is of the current games (FRLG). ^ht14 01:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I heard it was because today is red and green's birthday. >-> Littlmiget123 01:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Exactly! The article shows the Red/Green image, yet the template is saying FRLG. The template or something is just being wierd.

@Littlemiget123: Pikachu and Nidoran (male) are showing modern artwork.--Black Yin Zekrom 01:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

That's true LM123, but there would be an edit within the PokémonInfobox, wouldn't it? Hmm... oh right, it's already within the template. Though, previewing it cancels the effect... ^ht14 01:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, earlier some images didn't show as RG artwork, but when I previewed them, they turned to RG. Now it is the opposite. I think it takes a while for the image change to take effect where it should. So even though it is September 2nd, it still shows as RG artwork for the same reason some pages still showed FRLG artwork. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 01:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't get what you're saying. What I do know however, is that for some reason, most articles are showing Red/Green artwork, while a few (Pikachu, Aerodactyl, Mew, Nidoran, and others most likely) are still showing their proper FR/LG artwork.--Black Yin Zekrom 01:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

At the beginning of the day, all the pictures turned to Red and Green artwork. Some pictures didn't change cause it had to be hard refreshed or something. So they showed as FRLG artwork. Now it is Sept. 2nd on the server time, so the images are starting to change back, but slowly. _Blake ^Talk·Edits 01:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

And why do the templates still say "FRLG"?--Black Yin Zekrom 01:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Server caching. Everything is slowly turning back to normal. —darklordtrom 02:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Adding

I'm going to add Due to their similar appearance and identical typing, it was speculated that Bouffalant would evolve from Tauros upon Bouffalant's introduction to the public.- unsigned comment from Emeraldben (talk • contribs)

It was really unpopular theory; when Bouffalant was revealed in September, we already knew that no old Pokémon are in the Unova Dex.--電禅Den Zen 14:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

• • Yeah but its added in to the Luvdisc and alomamola one - unsigned comment from Emeraldben (talk • contribs)

Alomomola was announced in July. Wasn't that before we knew about there only being new Pokémon in the Unova Dex? - Blazios _talk 15:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

• • • Yeah but it says it was speculated, people also thought the same with tauros even though it was reveled, plans had been changed before - unsigned comment from Emeraldben (talk • contribs)

Difference is, the people who thought Bouffalant was related to Tauros were idiots who can't follow logic, where as the Alomomola/Luvdisc relation was very widely speculated. Also, sign your post using four tildes (a tilde is ~). - Blazios _talk 15:06, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

• • • • Well there's no need for that / and can't we atleast write it in tauros' page that it could of been related to Bouffalant due to their similar apperances despite having no connection what so ever? Emeraldben 15:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

No, because it was specifically stated before Bouffalant's announcement that the Unova would have all new Pokémon. Those who speculated did so using completely faulty logic, as their thoughts contradicted something we were directly told. - Blazios _talk 15:39, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

...Thats why Pokes introduced afterwards would be known to not have connections to the past. ~ Blitzamirin ~ 15:41, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The graceful aurochs

Feel free to yell at me, but I've got a strong feeling that Tauros also took inspiration from an aurochs. '~Jhuyu26', user of Generation V glitch Pokémon -----! 04:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Taurus

Clicked the link to the wikipedia page for Taurus, it says Taurus is the second astrological sign, punching holes in the origin section's "three" theory. Malake256 04:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Being a Taurus myself, I agree with you and have removed it. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 06:47, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Inspiration from Greek myhtology?

It is mentioned that Tauros' name might reference the Tauros constellation most of us might be familiar with, but there are Greek legends about bulls swimming through large bodies of water and yes, they all involve the bulls carrying a being (often female). One in particular tells the tale of how the thunder god Zeus falls in love with a woman named Europa, but his status as a god deters him from approaching her. So, he turns himself into a [very handsome] bull and when Europa sees him, she is smitten instantly. She is coaxed into climbing onto the bull's back and he carries her to Crete (crossing the ocean to do so). Here is an interpretation of the myth in the form of a painting (there are several others). The myth also explains why Tauros is capable of learning the move Surf, and there exist other myths featuring women infatuated with bulls riding them across the ocean, such as Paciphae riding a bull she was cursed to fall in love with by Poseidon as punishment for a bad deal done unto him by Paciphae's husband, King Minos (picture). This is a super complex bit of trivia, perhaps too much for the trivia section of this page, but would be a nice addition to George Hutcheon's On the Origin of Species column. I would go to him, but he doesn't appear to be active any longer, so that leaves me here. BNK^Talk 19:54, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Regional Pokedex entry trivia?

Should it be mentioned in trivia that Tauros is the only Pokemon in Scarlet and Violet to get Pokedex entries for each of its regional variants? Pokemega32 (talk) 16:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't think that that is notable enough. Darmanitan has the same in the Galarian dex, and the trivia section says nothing about it. CrazyPikmin (talk) 09:23, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

No? All of the Pokemon with regional farms in the Galar Dex have entries for all of them. Pokemega32 (talk) 04:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Kantonian Form Tauros available via The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero

So the "regional" Tauros in Kitakami is the Kantonian Form, what wording should be used for the availability? Should it be mentioned that Any of the Paldean forms should not be holding an everstone?GunDelHel (talk) 07:46, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

If you're talking about the "Availability" tables, then just "Kantonian Form" is fine, i think. Anzasquiddles 2222(:D)SSSS (talk page) 09:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll try to word it better.

While Tauros aren't available in the wild in Kitakami, Tauros eggs produced in Kitakami will default to Kantonian form making them available without using Pokemon Home;

As there is no other example of a regional Pokemon gaining availability in a game exclusively through breeding, I was wondering if we needed to mention that a this process would fail if a Paldean form was holding an everstone(GunDelHel (talk) 20:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC))

Scarlet and Violet locations

This page says Tauros is available in the Asado Desert, but that page has no mention of Tauros and appears to be complete, with the “51 unique encounters” line. In addition, East Province (Area Three) has a similar situation, although it is less complete. There appears to be a mistake somewhere, as the encounters in the desert added up to 51, which means either the 51 statement was incorrect or this page was. CyberDragonM (talk) 18:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)