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Hi, I'm a newly subscribed french contributor, and I wanted to say: "Toutankafer" can't come from "coffre", in French it doesn't sound similar at all. It's most likely derived from "Tant qu'à faire", a french idiom meaning something like "while I'm at it". Also, the japanese name sounds really close (and seems really close) to "''Desu ka''", basically meaning "Isn't it" (and it's one of the reasons that made me think of the french origin). --[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] 22:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a newly subscribed french contributor, and I wanted to say: "Toutankafer" can't come from "coffre", in French it doesn't sound similar at all. It's most likely derived from "Tant qu'à faire", a french idiom meaning something like "while I'm at it". Also, the japanese name sounds really close (and seems really close) to "''Desu ka''", basically meaning "Isn't it" (and it's one of the reasons that made me think of the french origin). --[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] 22:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
== Possible Design Influence ==
Coffin is called "four armed" in some cultures/languages. This is because coffin is carried by four person before being buried. Cofagrigus' four arms may be a reference to that metaphorical saying. [[User:Phoenix-f-|Phoenix-f-]] ([[User talk:Phoenix-f-|talk]]) 22:42, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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Sources?

Where was some of this information found, like its Pokédex entry saying that it ate humans and turned their bodies into mummies (or somethin like that), and that it loved to eat golden nuggets? Is there an official source for this stuff?--Black Yin Zekrom 18:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Uhhhh, it explicitly states the entry is from Pokémon Black. The games have been out, you know. MaverickNate 18:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, since the entry from Pokémon Black hasn't been added, people might not take it at face value, and question this. Have you seen the Pokédex entry for Desukaan in Pokémon Black?--Black Yin Zekrom 18:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I know that Umeko has, and she has been progressively adding the entries into the pages. There are over 600 Pokémon, meaning about 1300 entries to add. Just because she hasn't added this specific one doesn't mean we don't know what the information is. MaverickNate 18:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm just saying, sometimes information shouldn't be added without the supporting evidence, otherwise people might remove it, believing it to be untrue.--Black Yin Zekrom 18:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

It does have the supporting evidence. It states exactly what the source of the info actually was--in this case, the dex entry from Black. MaverickNate 18:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but without the actual Pokédex entry, you can't really believe it 100%. Lemme put it this way: someone you don't know adds information to an article. While they claim to have a source for such information, they do not show evidence from said source to support the idea that the information they have added is accurate or true. What would you do in a situation such as that?--Black Yin Zekrom 18:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This is different. Umeko isn't someone we don't know.--Pokélova! 19:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't think Ume was the one who added the diet section. I only said she has been adding dex entries
Who ever said that the dex entries stated in the Pokédex entry section are even true? Anyone could have gone into, say Oddish's diamond dex entry and made something up. All information is sourced, but you are stating that the dex entry section would be said source, when no, it is not. The games are the source. You are saying that not having the black dex entry makes it unbelievable; however, every single dex entry on the wiki is as unreliable as the statement you are questioning. You have to actual go to the games to verify if it is true or not for any of them. We have done this for black. Sourcing the black game is as much as we can do, and I don't understand why you are arguing. We have it sourced just as much as any other entry/entry information is, and for some reason you find the need to question this one out of thousands. The information is sourced... you are claiming it isn't, even though it actually is. MaverickNate 19:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Look, I'm saying that other people who don't have the slightest clue who Umeko is will think "Huh, they say this is in the Pokédex entry for Pokémon Black, but the entry for some reason isn't up. If the entry isn't up to confirm this, how can I know it's true? Perhaps I should remove it". I'm saying that having the Pokédex entry that coincides with this information helps support it and make it believable. Otherwise, some well-intentioned User may believe it's untrue, with little to suggest otherwise, and end up removing it. Nowadays, people rarely take another persons' word at face value.--Black Yin Zekrom 19:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

If it wasn't true, it would have been removed by someone straight away. I actually thought it was fake too, until I read the actual dex entry from Black. So, yes, the source is the game. If you don't have the game then you can't really do anything except ask someone who does to verify the information, like Umeko did. If anyone has an issue about it's validity, they can see this talk page. Jellotalk 19:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, all I'm saying is that having the supporting evidence on the page makes the info a lot more believable. Having the entry on the page makes it a lot more believable (who would bother trying to fake an entry by translating kanji and all of that), and saves people plenty of time because they don't have to go look at a different page, or ask a bunch of strangers repeatedly.--Black Yin Zekrom 19:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I added the dex entry, someone else can get around to translating it later. Even a simple Google translation can sort of tell you what it means. Jellotalk 20:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, since I was the one who made an issue of it, I'll translate it. Would Yahoo Babel Translator be considered reliable?--Black Yin Zekrom 20:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I just tried translating it with online translators. It doesn't make much sense. You'll probably have to get an actual person to translate.--Pokélova! 20:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Origin

After reading its Pokedex entries and its Pokémon specie name, I am reminded of those mummy horror films. You know, the old films that would have tomb robbers or explorers investigate a tomb, only to get hunted down by an undead mummy who is trying to protect its treasure? That could just be me though. Rai Marshall 21:16, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Gold bars or nuggets?

Umm... in the diet section it says nuggets. Pokédex entry says it's bars. Not sure.--444Zekrom 13:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll change the description to just gold until someone can help here because it's kind of confusing. --Shining Latios 02:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Darkstalkers

Am I the only one who noticed this pokemon is a lot like Anakaris, who IIRC also had a move that turned his foes into mummies? (I only played (as/against) him on the MvC series but I read his capcom wiki page and I'd have to double check) Mattwo 10:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok I checked, and he is not one of the characters to have that sort of finishing move, however he does have a similar move but it's hard to tell from the description how the spirits effect the opponent. He also has an attack that wraps the foe in his own bandages and slams them. Mattwo 10:56, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

French and Japanese names

Hi, I'm a newly subscribed french contributor, and I wanted to say: "Toutankafer" can't come from "coffre", in French it doesn't sound similar at all. It's most likely derived from "Tant qu'à faire", a french idiom meaning something like "while I'm at it". Also, the japanese name sounds really close (and seems really close) to "Desu ka", basically meaning "Isn't it" (and it's one of the reasons that made me think of the french origin). --Unbirth 22:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Possible Design Influence

Coffin is called "four armed" in some cultures/languages. This is because coffin is carried by four person before being buried. Cofagrigus' four arms may be a reference to that metaphorical saying. Phoenix-f- (talk) 22:42, 2 February 2013 (UTC)