Talk:Pokémon Bank

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Fenyx4 (talk) 18:53, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Held items/Berries disappearing when Bag is "full"

The Pokémon Bank FAQ mentions that held items/Berries will be sent to your Bag when the player is depositing Pokémon into Pokémon Bank, and that items will disappear if the Bag is "full". I thought that post-Generation 3 games had unlimited Bag space, so I'm wondering is this statement referring to when you have the maximum amount of a single item (like reaching the cap of 999 Rare Candies in the Rare Candy's particular item slot)? Fenyx4 (talk) 18:56, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just referring to the 999 maximum. --SnorlaxMonster 02:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect categorization link.

Read: [Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading|Pokémon that] evolve via trading will not evolve if sent to Pokémon Bank.

(There are supposed to be two brackets "[[]]" in the sentence, but I'm not sure of what you type to make wikicode/markup appear as text rather than executing itself/how you nullify wikicode from executing...) I was trying to format the link to the category of "Pokémon that evolve through trading" so that it appears as an internal Bulbapedia link rather than an external link, but for some reason, the method in which I typed the sentence categorizes the Pokémon Bank article itself in that category rather than just "internally linking to that category within the sentence" (the latter being what I intended). It would be greatly appreciated if someone could help to format this sentence properly (and in the worst-case scenario, I'll just settle for the link appearing as an external link). Thanks in advance. Fenyx4 (talk) 19:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Fixed it. If you want to link to a category rather than add it, you put a colon at the beginning of the link. In this case, it is [[:Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading]]. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:15, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

One little colon? Are you kidding me? XD Wow...that could have saved me all that trial-and-error I was doing earlier trying to fix the problem.. But this feature is good to know; thank you very much for fixing it, and I'll keep your tip for future reference. :) Fenyx4 (talk) 00:00, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Comparison of Fees

Just for the heck of it (and if someone decided to add this into an actual section), here is a comparison of the fees relative to USD (as of December 15th, 2013):

• JP¥500 = US$4.85
• GB£4.99 = US$8.13
• EU€4,49 = US$6.17
• AU$6.50 = US$5.83
• NZ$8.50 = US$7.03
• KR₩5000 = US$4.75

I'm kinda surprised that the fees vary so much... -- Nick15 (talk) 23:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I think this should be included in the article, at least in a "x-pays the least, x-pays the most" capacity. Not just because I'm outraged about the UK having to pay the most despite being in a state of economic decline or anything, I swear. Me, Hurray! (talk) 17:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the EU and UK prices were mixed up, with £4.49 being $7.29 right now and €4.99 being $6.85. The UK price is still the highest, of course. - Blazios _talk 17:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Bank Being Delayed and Deleted From the Nintendo eShop

So I've heard that in the U.S.A and all of the other places where it hasn't been released Pokémon Bank is being delayed, and deleted from the Nintendo eShop in places where it has been released due to hacked Pokemon being able to be transferred over. Should we put this down/mention this? AwesomeGrovyle (talk) 02:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Probably due to high traffics, but yes you may! ~☆I'm TheShinyMew!☆~ 06:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

The delay is worth mentioning, but it's speculation to say it's because of hacked Pokemon. All Nintendo has said is that it's "due to a large volume of traffic". Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

They said a bit more on the NoA Twitter account. Basically, the eShop and the NN Ids are the main problem for most, if not all, of the network. --Super goku (talk) 07:27, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Sometime around 10 p.m I learned it was actually due to traffic jams. AwesomeGrovyle (talk) 18:27, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Subscription prices

The article has the subscription prices and according to the eShop it costs "R$8.99" (Brazil) and "$61.99 MXN" (Mexican Pesos). Should this be added to the article for completeness sake or not? - unsigned comment from Dude22072 (talk • contribs)

"Initial Launch"

The infobox currently says "initial launch" on December 27/28 for Europe and Oceania. This is implying that it was ever even launched, when it was pulled before it even got the chance. Previously it said "planned launch" which is the accurate phrase to use here. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 16:18,2/4/2014 (UTC)

Hacked or not?

What exactly does Pokémon Bank observe in every attempted-to-transfer pokemon before deciding if it's hacked or not? Some of the pokemon I want to transfer (all legit-obtained) were edited by Pokesav (natures and moves only) & I fear I'll get permanently banned from the app. DuelKING (talk) 20:29, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Illegally created via external methods or modified by external methods. You will get banned for transferring those. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 21:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

I've noticed that in a box with 30 Pokémon, if say six of the Pokémon was hacked then it will simply give you a message saying they can't be transferred and leave them on the game while all other Pokémon are transferred into the bank. If hacked to get lots of Rare Candies and used them to level up Pokémon to whatever level, it does not appear to have a problem with trading them up.

I have not yet suffered a ban to the software for attempting to upload them.--Ditto51/Tom (My Talk Page) 08:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank goodness. I was hoping that was the case. It'd be silly if people could get banned just because someone traded them a hacked Pokemon and they didn't know it when they tried to upload it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Not sure how it would act going from X or Y to the bank though, that was from White 2 and White. So how it works from going up to the bank from X or Y I do not know.--Ditto51/Tom (My Talk Page) 14:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Personally, I tried to transfer alot of Pokémon from Blaze Black (after trading them to a legitimate White cartridge). The majority of them were not accepted. Like Ditto51 said, there's nothing close to a "ban" happening from such an act. If I tried to transfer a box of 30 Pokémon and only two of them could actually be moved by passing whatever check is in place, the Transporter would in turn give me a note saying "at least one of the Pokémon could not be moved", and that they will be left behind. As a result, the two that passed will be moved, and the other 28 will be left in my Box 1 from Generation 5, and no further consequence happens. As far as what the check entails, I do not know. Someone seems to have attempted to find out, but I don't know how much of those findings are correct. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 16:30,2/6/2014 (UTC)

"Solar Dragon", are you saying pokemon legitimately-obtained, then modified/edited are considered "hacked?" If what you say is true, this may cause a big, unfair problem for everyone. Edited, seemingly-legit pokemon can be deposited into the GTS, correct? And there's no way to tell if they're modified or not (or is there?). One could get banned for something that isn't his/her fault. DuelKING (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)DuelKINGDuelKING (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

DuelKING, while we are not sure quite what the Transporter uses to determine if a Pokémon is valid or not, there are two things that we can say for certain. First, the GTS seems to be more lax. Just because something fails the Transporter's test doesn't mean it won't appear on the GTS. Second, there is no ban involved. If you had read what both myself and Ditto51 wrote, we have both confirmed that if a Pokémon fails the Transporter's tests, it will stay in the Gen V game. It will not disappear, and the player will not be penalzed n any way other than that the Pokémon cannot be sent to their Gen VI game. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 21:08,2/6/2014 (UTC)

Pokémon that were legitimately caught then edited will be considered hacked, yes. However, there is no ban as the others have said. I don't know why I said there was a ban, I wasn't thinking fully when I posted. I would guess that it checks moves and stats to see if they are legit and if not, it doesn't let you transfer. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 21:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

From what I can gather, it checks things like moveset and caught location, but the talk page for the transporter might be a better place to hold this topic. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 21:36,2/6/2014 (UTC)

Oh? Well, people on Facebook are saying they've gotten banned for this. I don't know who to believe. DuelKING (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2014 (UTC)DuelKINGDuelKING (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

..... Personally I would take a Wiki's word over Facebook..... Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 21:47,2/6/2014 (UTC)

Again not sure if it is possible to get hacked mons on X and Y that were hacked into that game, but if you can what would happen if they were uploaded. So from Gen VI to the bank--Ditto51/Tom (My Talk Page) 22:35, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

By pure coincidence, a classmate of mine used the DNS method to get an Arceus from the GTS into a Gen V game, and he was able to transport it to Gen VI and trade it to me without trouble, meaning it was created to pass the test, and my game (nor his) is in no way corrupted nor am I prevented from using the Bank. Just as well, I was able to put the Arceus in the Bank, save, and take it out with no trouble at all. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 23:05,2/6/2014 (UTC)

Like Box and Ranch?

Since the official site says it works for multiple games and since it's not registered in the player's ID, but rather the Nintendo Network ID. Does that mean that someone can store Pokémon, start a new game and retrieve all of the stored, or will they be locked forever like Box and Ranch?

How notable to put on the article is that, if it is true?--Igor (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you can transfer your entire PC up to the bank, restart your game, and pop your Pokémon back in your new game after having received the Pokédex. Might be some obedience issues at first... CraftyWeavile (talk) 05:55, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Pokémon Bank Bug?

Okay, so I was transferring Pokémon yesterday to complete my Pokédex, and some of them are hacked because I kept missing their events (i.e. Hacking the Member Card to get Darkrai, etc.). What's odd is my Wish Maker Jirachi and my Manaphy, both I hacked to get, went through just fine. But when I tried to transfer my Shaymin and Darkrai, both I caught with the use of the Member Card and Oak's Letter, it said they couldn't get through because they were hacked. Can anyone explain why this oddity happened because I am really confused by it. Pokedex493 (talk) 04:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

The hack check that the Transporter uses doesn't seem to actually check if the Pokémon was created by a hack, but more specific properties, most notably seems to be the location that they were caught. So, if a hacked Pokémon is given an original location that is legitimate for that Pokémon it has a chance of passing the check regardless of being hacked, where an Arceus with a caught location of Sinnoh Route 201 would more than likely fail. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 04:55,2/7/2014 (UTC)

See that's just the thing. I caught Shaymin in Flower Paradise and Darkrai in Newmoon Island respectively, but they still couldn't get through. My theory is that the date they were caught might've given it away, but I could be wrong. Pokedex493 (talk) 04:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I doubt it's the date. My friend has been transporting some of my RNGed Pokemon and none of them have correct dates. Did you happen to get them on Diamond and Pearl instead of Platinum? --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 05:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

It's not really a surprise if an illegitimate Pokemon passes. It would be almost impossible for the hack-check to be completely foolproof. You can't actually check if something was created by hacking, really, because most hacking tools wouldn't want to leave such an indication. You can only check for oddities.

As for the two you express surprise about, Darkrai and Shaymin...you say you hacked the Member's Card (I would assume you did the same for Oak's Letter). It's possible that Pokemon Bank is able to recognize that your game never acquired a Member's Card through legitimate means. Or maybe the game knew from the get-go and actually marked those Pokemon specially. (If the former (if it's just Bank putting two and two together), then they might go through if you traded them to a perfectly clean game. I stress that this is just a guess, though.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:02, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

It's worth a try. I do have a copy of Black 2 and White to trade between. Thanks for the help. I'll post to this if I see any results. Pokedex493 (talk) 05:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

If you hacked the Member Card/Oak's Letter to get them in Platinum, they should pass through fine. If you did so in DP, it is completely understandable that the game noticed. Firstly, there is a game of origin flag anyway, so Transporter could just check for that (note that that is what transfers Pokémon, not Bank, so this discussion would be more suited to that page anyway). However, more importantly, Darkrai/Shaymin caught in DP do not have the fateful encounter flag, whereas those caught in Platinum do; Transporter is probably just checking to see if they are FE, and since DP ones aren't, it is rejecting them. --SnorlaxMonster 05:13, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Doh. I was basing my previous "guess" on the supposition that you were using Transporter on the game Darkrai/Shaymin were caught in. But of course that can't be. They're completely different generations, even. =P

(The thing SnorlaxMonster sort of glosses over above is that the Member Card/Oak's Letter were apparently only officially distributed for Platinum.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I probably should have mentioned that. So what it means is that non-FE Darkrai/Shaymin aren't legit, so Transporter would reasonably check for that. --SnorlaxMonster 05:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I see. Then I should start saving up for Platinum. Thanks for the help guys. I understand the hack check better now. Pokedex493 (talk) 05:47, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

IT'S NOT HACKED!

The Entei I had obtained from someone (it had been caught in FRLG) refuses to be transferred to the bank. Why? CraftyWeavile (talk) 06:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

If you didn't catch it yourself, you have no real way of knowing whether it's hacked or not, and we can't really help you without really any information. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 06:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Trading??

Does anyone know if depositing a pokemon in the bank resets its friendship, as trading does? Because I deposited a level 5 cleffa from one game and withdrew it in another, and without being in a luxury ball, holding a soothe bell, or otherwise giving it any happiness-boosting items, it evolved at level 16. I did use poke-amie a bit, but not *nearly* enough to explain how a traded pokemon--which, according to Bulbapedia, should have been reset to 70 friendship--could have gotten to over 220 friendship in 11 levels. It's only *barely* feasible if we assume that she started at 140. (Even then, I'm not sure how that happened; I'm *guessing* the poke-amie helped--maybe affection hearts increase the rate at which happiness increases? She only had two, though.)- unsigned comment from Harumei (talk • contribs)

Relatedly, did it keep Amie? --TruePikachu (talk) 23:00, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Pokemon Eggs and Bank

There seems to be some conflicting information out on the 'Net about whether you can store Pokémon eggs in Bank. You can't -- at least not according to my experience you can't (screenshot). Can anyone confirm? --Stratelier 06:07, 8 March 2014 (UTC)