Talk:Poké Transporter

B/W?

Does anyone know if this will be exclusive to B2/W2 or will it include original B/W? Tacopill (talk) 01:58, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

BW is mentioned as well, so it will be included. Berrenta (talk) 02:14, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Sweet. Thank you. Tacopill (talk) 02:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Stardom

Does anyone know if pokemon that achieve 'cult star' status at Pokestar Studios will keep their entrance sparkle in X/Y? Legionaireb (talk) 18:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure that is related to the Poké Transporter. Tacopill (talk) 15:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I've heard reports that the Pokéstar Studios and N's Pokémon entry animations no longer occur. I don't have a Japanese game though, so I haven't tested this myself. --SnorlaxMonster 16:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry if this is old news, but I can confirm that the Pokéstar Studios entry animation is gone. Tested this by sending out my Wynaut against a wild Flabébé. In Black 2, my Wynaut had the animation. In Y, nothing. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 12:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Names of transferred Pokémon

Something that the article doesn't seem to note yet: Transporter fixes the all-uppercase names of unnicknamed Pokémon from Gen III and IV to proper case. Not sure where to put that without it looking like a random statement, though, so I'll let someone else decide. Soulweaver ^{(talk · edits)} 19:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Pokédex trivia

after using Poké Transporter, I discovered that the symbol that marks a completed Pokédex entry, instead of being the Kalos symbol, will be a the National Pokédex symbol (a Pokéball) if, and only if, using Poké Transporter got you the Pokémon species in question, or evolving a Pokémon that was transferred gets you the entry. This symbol can be upgraded to the Kalos symbol by catching or evolving a native-to-Kalos Pokémon of the species, as well as hatching one. I tested this with Aron. I initially got the entry by transfering, then I hatched one that was laid by a Lairon I had. --KinCryos (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Makes sense, and I confirm. The logo for the National Dex is the red/white Poké Ball, so entries exclusive to it would be marked as such...wait, I just went over to Pokédex, someone stated that the National Dex icon is the combo of the three regional Dex icons... --TruePikachu (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Pokédex Completion

Does anyone happen to know how the Pokédex in XY is marked with regard to imports from Bank? Specifically, I know the somewhere in the line, the Dex gets marked as Caught, but I don't know if the game or if Bank does it, and if Bank does, what conditions need to be met (transferred to XY by save, was in an XY box during the "transaction" (could be removed later in the same transaction), was in full Bank system, etc). Hopefully (for Ninty and our game carts) it is one of the two latter possibilities, because then one could do mass Dex filling in a single transaction, reducing both server load and flash writes (to either SD, cart, or NAND(?)). --TruePikachu (talk) 23:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I finished my dex today, so I could potentially answer your question but...I don't understand. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 23:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit: Oh. Yup. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 23:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

So it is clarified for other people, I'm wondering when the game's Pokédex is updated to indicate Pokémon as having been caught. There are only two/three possibilities for when the actual Dex is updated on the save file (save/exit from Bank, save of XY, or load of XY), but if it is Bank which updates the dex, there are a number of possibilities as to how (see old post for list). The thing is, a couple of the possibilities could result in the game's Dex having Pokémon marked as having been caught, without keeping them on the savefile for a period of time. I think I might link this discussion from the Bank talkpage as well, as it seems to be more related to Bank, or even with Bank and 2 GenVI games. --TruePikachu (talk) 01:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Arceus

In my own experience, which is backed up by the experiences of those on external forums, the TRU Arceus cannot be transferred. Me, Hurray! (talk) 15:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I'd actually like to see a list started on the Transporter page for 'legit' Pokémon that can't be transferred. I can already confirm that any Shaymin or Darkrai caught from Japanese Diamond/Pearl (via the surf-into-the-void bug) won't go through since they aren't tagged with "fateful encounter". I've read that Azure Flute Arceus won't go either. I know all those are technically 'cheated' but it'd be good to know. One non-cheated that I'm yet to confirm myself but that I've heard is blocked is the Gen3 Mystery Mew that they handed out at TRU back in 2006. I'm gonna test the Journey Across America Celebi and all of the event ticket Pokémon from Gen3 soon for myself, since I have access to them. They're all still in my Gen3 games, though, so I need to set aside some time to do a lot of transferring. There's plenty of others I'd like to get confirmed, too, like pretty much all event handouts (since TRU Arceus won't transfer, which is a BIG disappointment).Shugo (talk) 08:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I just checked both the Arceus I have in my X version. One of them was actually from my Diamond version which I got through use of the Azure Flute. My other was obtained in White through the PGL promotion. I honestly haven't had any issues transferring Pokémon at all. My Azure Flute Arceus is the only "hacked" Pokémon that I've ever transferred. The rest are banished to my Diamond version, never to be removed. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 08:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I've heard Hayley's Phione won't go through either. --SnorlaxMonster 10:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Uh oh, I wonder if that means Hayley's Mew won't work either. Ranch is the only legit in-game way to get an English Mew as of now, and if that's blocked then there's only a couple distributed Mews left for us poor English users.Shugo (talk) 10:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Personally, if a handful of event PkMn are being blocked, I believe the issue should be brought up with Ninty/GF. If someone can assemble a list of known problems, Nintendo or GameFreak (I don't know who configures etc. the servers, or if it is a client-side block) can work to fix the problem. I might do a event transfer at some point (using the GenV GTS exploit to send the ones I lost to my W2, since my Black's EEPROM died on me along with most of my prized collection), I'll note other events which don't go through. --TruePikachu (talk) 00:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC) (note to self: back up Pt/SS/W2 before those chips die too)

I've been told Hayley's Mew is fine. ALso, should have mentioned this earlier, but it has been widely reported that Shiny Jirachi is prohibited. --SnorlaxMonster 05:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

(resetting indent) I can't get any variation of shaymin or arceus to transfer. What I've noticed is that some people's banks seem to differ on what they think is hacked. For example, one of my friends was able to transfer 6IV Dittos to Gen 6, and I had the exact same .pkm file for that ditto, and it didn't pass. Sometimes a .pkm on one game will register as hacked, and if you trade it to another bank passes it. I do agree with TruePikachu though, GF needs to fix this.----BigBadBatter 03:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I have a Shaymin transferred, though, let me check which one...--TruePikachu (talk) 03:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

TRU Shaymin, and realised that Bank might be databasing PIDs so that clones aren't let on. No idea if there is a whitelist for events, someone should confirm. --TruePikachu (talk) 03:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

And to think that they're letting Shiny Zekroms and Reshirams through. It would seem odd for them to database PIDs, because there's a fairly narrow spectrum of PIDs for event pokemon if I remember correctly, especially those with invariable natures.----BigBadBatter 03:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Which is why there would be a whitelist for events. But now I'm not so sure they are doing so, someone should probably contact Nintendo. I guess I'll see if I'm able to. I don't expect them to share the details about the algorithm, but they might check it to make sure it is actually working as intended. --TruePikachu (talk) 03:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

You're probably trying to send non-fateful encounter Shaymin through, which are always illegitimate and known to be prohibited. I highly doubt the game prevents duplicate PIDs going through, and that there is any difference between people's Pokémon Transporter checks. --SnorlaxMonster 03:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Believe it or not, they actually were fateful-encounter ones. I tried a TRU and an Oblivia Shaymin. Neither worked. It' really weird how some legit pokemon can't pass but some really badly done hacks can pass. As I said before though, some banks pass different things for some strange reason. It really ticks me off. While we're at it though, considering this is a pretty prominent issue, should we add some details to the page about it?----BigBadBatter 21:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

You can in the meantime, but I'm waiting for a response from TPCi or someone. I not only mentioned that some events weren't going through, but I also mentioned a case where a hacked PkMn did go through (I am not elaborating on this here). I also sent a link to this page, but don't expect them to reply here. However, if they do discover that there was indeed a problem, the edits could become incorrect and be removed later. --TruePikachu (talk) 22:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

(resetting indent again) I can confirm that the TRU Mystery Mew (mentioned near the beginning of this comment thread) is indeed blocked. Possibly because its SID is 0. Rycr (talk) 09:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Indeed I can confirm that legitimately obtained (special event) TRU arcues is tansferable. I can also personally confirm the 2006 TRU mew is transferable. I realize people have already confirmed this, but I figure the more confimation from seperate sources is best in this case. Icestar649 (talk) 13:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Wait so which is it? Mystery Mew blocked or not? I still haven't had the chance to check myself. I do have five legitimate ones actually obtained at the TRU event, currently sitting in my Pokémon Box. (That was fun; I got four friends to wait in line with me.)

I think what might be going on here is something going wrong with Pokémon obtained via injected PKM. The games keep lots of hidden records, including data on when and how Pokémon are met. Maybe Transporter checks more than just the Pokémon itself; perhaps it checks with the save file to see how that Pokémon arrived in the game. It would make sense of what BigBadBatter said about how his Ditto imported from a PKM file wouldn't work but it did for his friend. It's possible his friend's game created a record of that Ditto arriving "legitimately" through a trade whereas his own game had no such record due to being imported directly. It might also explain why some event Pokémon seem blocked, since those are very commonly imported through hacking. Someone on /vp/ was giving away a TRU Arceus, and he confirmed to me that TRU Arceus is not blocked, contrary to many reports. The reports likely stem from the possible issue I just outlined.Shugo (talk) 07:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm Pokedit's Head Moderater and a .pkm legality specialist, and I can say this, the game keeps no such records. When and how they were met is in the .pkm's memo data, and can be easily edited. I have passed a lot of injected and edited .pkm files, because all the parameters were legal. All the event pokemon I've attempted to get in were completely unedited, and 100% legal (used pokecheck to confirm this, but don't have a link to the .pkm, sorry). I've also recently tested with another friend identical Arceus and Shaymin .pkms. Theirs passed and mine didn't. Remember that really badly hacked pokemon have been able to pass bank, whilst some legit ones can't. I say it's just really bad programming on GF's part. Also Shugo, I am a girl XD----BigBadBatter 21:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I meant the other details that the game apparently keeps regarding Pokémon, unless that's also kept in the PKM. (I don't know much about the PKM format.) I recall there being a guy in Black/White you could talk to who would tell you a bunch of extra details about a Pokémon, like what Pokémon fought it before it was caught or who it was traded from (even if that person isn't the OT). I can't remember where in the game he is, though. That made me think that the game keeps extra hidden data on a Pokémon. Surely there must be some reason for why the same Pokémon doesn't pass for some people but does for others. It can't just be 'bad programming'; I can't think of how they'd mess up creating a simple set of checks, checks that should be the same for everybody. Something must be tripping the checks for one person but not the other, and I'm thinking it's the person's game. If you have the ability, could you try trading one of these Pokémon that won't pass (but will for your friends) to another of your games and then attempting to transfer? If that doesn't work then my theory weakens.

For the record, though, I'm not denying that it could be Transporter actually being terrible. I just find it unlikely. Shugo (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

All of the stuff's kept in the .pkm except base stats, sprites and cry. I have traded between games, and that doesn't work either. However, I asked pokemon support about it and they said that "some pokemon cannot be transferred from certain games, and which pokemon can or cannot be tranferred depends on the settings of each game". Oddly enough though, I tried last night to pass an Arceus and Shaymin I made with the PokEdit app as a last resort and they passed. It's weird to say the least.----BigBadBatter 21:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Modifications to transferred would-be shiny Pokémon

Previously a Pokemon would be shiny if the shiny formula would result in a Color ID between 0 and 7 inclusive (Color ID / CID, I refer to it by this name for simplicity sake), but as of X/Y the CID can be a number anywhere from 0 to 15 inclusive for the Pokemon to be shiny. My question is how would the Poke Transporter deal with Pokemon whose CID is a number between 8 and 15 inclusive, would they become shiny upon transfer or would they be locked into non-shiny ? I personally expect the latter to happens, and if the latter would evolution cancel the non-shininess ? Regards. Flare drive 2 (talk) 18:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

By all means, try it and find out. But most likely no one around here knows the answer, and discussing what we "expect" is just pointless speculation. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:33, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, that would have been the first thing I would have done if not due to the fact that I got no Pokemon games from Gen V and prior, hence why I asked here. Flare drive 2 (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Legit, yet un-tranferrable

Just curious, but could someone help me figure out why my Entei from Firered can't be transferred? The other beasts transferred just fine, so I'm stumped.CraftyWeavile (talk) 07:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC)