Talk:Clemont's Chespin

Same Chespin

Japanese is not my forte....but was it confirmed that this is the same Chespin that was presented to Serena when she choose her first Pokémon? --HoennMaster 23:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

I know its late and you probably already know, but no, it was not. StephenWalker97 (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Trivia

Chespin is the first regional Grass-type starter to be owned by a main character other than Ash. Does this mean within that regeon because May had Bulbasaur --Ditto51/Tom (My Talk Page) 16:29, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it means within that region. PattyMan 19:26, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Gender

Should we say he male since he fell in love the female fennken on tv and shown to like mimic Ash Hawlucha stand and his owner as well. That show to be male. --Terryberry94 (talk) 05:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Falling in love with a Pokémon of a particular gender and mimicking a specific Pokémon are not strong enough proof that a Pokémon is male or female. We need to have the characters state Chespin's gender before we add it to the article. He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit! (talk) 21:15, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry but this is really just nitpicking at this point. Chespin is male, he fell in love with a Female Meowstic(who can't have any sort of gender debate because she is point blank female). The anime has no mention of gay pokemon anywhere and it's a kid show so this a character has to say it thing isn't needed in this case, yes in other cases it is needed but Meowstic was a female, this can't be debated.RBK (talk) 06:02, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

It is Bulbapedia policy that we do not assume the gender of a Pokémon based on the gender of something it has been attracted to, unless it is via a move or ability such as Attract or Cute Charm. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

And in most cases I agree with that, however if a pokemon has a confirmed gender(as Meowstic does) and the pokemon(Chespin) knew it was a female the whole time as it can't be male, it's not the same thing. In this case, it's not an assumption of gender, as Meowstic can only be one or the other.

If a pokemon falls for a confirmed female pokemon, it is male and vice versa. The key word is confirmed her as just acting feminine isn't the same thing(Purrlion).RBK (talk) 07:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Not remotely the case. You're completely assuming that Pokémon can only be attracted to the opposite gender, despite nothing official ever stating such. It's Bulbapedia's stance that we do not assume that Pokémon are only straight, thus we do not assume genders based on non-move/ability inflicted attraction. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 07:34, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Are you seriously suggesting that there are gay pokemon?? Really?? On a kids show?? The show barely recognizes straight love and you're suggesting gay love?? That is just grasping right there. The closest we ever got to that is Mijumaru falling for a Purrloin pretending to be a girl but even that his gender was confirmed. Like I said, Meowstic can't pretend to be anything other then a girl.RBK (talk) 09:06, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

How about Chespin itself? How do you know it's not a very masculine female? You're too focused on the Meowstic but not even bothering to think if Chespin could be female. --ForceFire 09:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Are you seriously suggesting that Chespin is a lesbian right now?? Show me at least one other pokemon who is confirmed gay or lesbian and you might have a point but until it is just ridiculous speculation. There are no gay or lesbian characters in a kids cartoon for gods sake. They rarely even mention straight relationships let alone gay ones.RBK (talk) 09:03, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to have to ask for this discussion to end. This is our policy and it's been this way for the longest time. Even if they are serious hints dropped we cannot do anything until A) Attract happens or B) a speaking character mentions the Pokémon's gender. That's just the way it is. There is nothing speculative about leaving something as ambiguous. --ケンジのガール 09:45, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Chespin Gender XY051

I noticed in XY051, Clemont said "I'll leave him to you" about halfway through the episode when Bonnie asked if Chespin wanted to learn how to dance too, does this mean anything with regards to Chespin's gender? StephenWalker97 (talk) 20:17, 14 December 2014 (UTC)