Talk:Kecleon (Pokémon)

"Crayon" in kana is クレヨン kureyon, not kureon, sorry. -Argy

Can someone do the Learn Set? I tried to but it turned into a piece of crap.

Nevermind, I got it.--Dark Sage

We definately need a picture of a purple Kecleon in this article. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, the two Kecleon in the episode, The Kecleon Caper both don't look like the right color. See the picture of the real Kecleon and compare it to the green Kecleon in the episode. They're different shades of green.-ht14: 10:11, 24 January 2008 (GMT)

I uploaded the missing shiny sptires for Ruby & Sapphire and the Back sprite, but they aren't showing up. I can't edit it because it's a template.. how does that work? --Snowrunt

You should be talking to someone about it, but...did you upload it in the Bulbapedia Archive? ^ht14 13:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Yessir. If you click on the links on the page, it goes to the ones I uploaded. --Snowrunt

Official romanization

Is Kakureon the official romanization of カクレオン? To mean it just sounds like a rough romanization like Rukario. It sounds like it would be Kacleon or at the very least Kakuleon. --ケンジのガール 06:48, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Since I have almost no knowledge of romanizing names, I wouldn't know unfortunately. R.A. Hunter B. 22:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Kecleon and Italics?

The "learning" Box for several TM moves state (by use of italics) that Kecleon's evolution only can get STAB from the moves. However, Kecleon does not evolve and the footnote may seem misleading. Instead, should it be indicated in the footnote for those specific TM pages that Kecleon can get STAB due to its Ability? Or is this particular usage of italics intended notation for this particular Pokémon? I'm somewhat new and not aware if this being stated anywhere. --Solovino 07:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I've assumed that it's due to its ability, and that it's just because of some set text somewhere. If possible, we should add a specific note for Kecleon (and anyone else it might apply to), or just not do it. --DarkfireTaimatsu 08:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, for Kecleon, everything's potentially STAB. So we should just not do it. TTEchidna 10:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Edit Request

Anime Pokedex entry EP271 Kecleon Ash's Pokedex 'Kecleon, the Color Swap Pokémon. Kecleon is able to blend into its surrondings by changing the color of its body.' Please and thank you. Littlmiget123 14:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

And done. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit Request

Trivia; misspelling of "sapphire".--♫Green♫ギャラドス♫Talk♫ 03:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Fortree City?

It says that Kecleon can be caught in Fortree City. Unless I missed one, the only Kecleon in the city is the one blocking Fortree Gym, and it flees immediately. Like, without a battle. Should I remove this, or pick up my Emerald version and go through Fortree City more carefully? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 02:31, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

can't you catch it before it flees? like with a master ball? Ataro 02:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

When I say without a battle, I mean, it doesn't even go into a battle at all. Immediately after the Devon Scope identifies the Kecleon, it says "The startled Pokemon fled!", and Kecleon runs off. Absolutely no opportunity to use any sort of Poké Ball, let alone the Master Ball. Like I say, though, I haven't yet ruled out the possibility that there may be another Kecleon somewhere in the town that I somehow haven't discovered yet. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 02:44, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah now I remember and NO there isnt

I remember 3 in the whole game (I could be wrong) one in fortree and the other 2 in the route after it. Ataro 03:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

There's quite a few more than three. However, I had just searched through every accessible square inch of Fortree City (even in the houses, shops, and Pokemon Center!), and found absolutely no Kecleon. The one blocking Fortree Gym cannot be battled at all. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 13:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it means it can be found in Fortree City, not can be caught. It is in the game locations section. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 13:57, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it only applies to obtainable Pokémon. Otherwise the listing for Pokémon Tower would include Marowak, wouldn't it? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 14:03, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I know that, and I do agree with its removal. I was just saying how that could have gotten there. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Five that can be pure flying?

"Kecleon is one of the five Pokémon that can turn into a pure Flying-type Pokémon. The others are Arceus while holding the Sky Plate and Porygon, Porygon2, and Porygon-Z by using Conversion 2 after being hit by a Ground-type, Grass-type, Fighting-type, or Bug-type move, or using Conversion when they know a Flying-type move."

That's completely false. Other pokemon that can become pure-Flying: Smeargle, anything that learns Mimic, Metronome, Mirror Type, Transform, or Role Play, Pokemon that have Trace as their ability (by tracing Color Change), and any pokemon other than Arceus, through Skill Swap. Plus, it's outdated, since there's a pure-Flying legendary, now. Aielyn 07:21, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

That is indeed outdated. Feel free to remove any trivia along similar lines. —darklordtrom 10:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I already got it. --Andy^P_K^M_N 16:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Smeargle? That doesn't sound like a bad piece of trivia, it probably should've just had a mention of "...without using a move". —Ve№moth ♦ 01:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

A thought

Should we use {{arceustype}} for Kec's type color since it can be any type because of its ability? —Ve№moth ♦ 01:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

While I like your idea, I don't think Kecleon counts for that because his type goes back to Normal after the battle ends, whereas Arceus's type can change outside of battle. --ZestyCactus 02:01, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Curse on kecleon?

If curse was used on kecleon would it make it become a ??? type pokemon? - unsigned comment from savelijah (talk • contribs)

What? Why? It's not damaging move.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 17:49, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

What if a ghost type used it? Savelijah 23:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the move has to do direct damage (i.e. have a base power)- Leech Seed doesn't activate it either, as far as I'm aware. Nytik 19:13, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

In the trivia it says "Color Change can be used against Kecleon by harming it with a move of one type, then using a move that type is weak to. This works especially well with Dragon-type and Ghost-type moves, which are super effective against their own type, although Ghost-type moves won't have any effect on Kecleon if it hasn't changed its type yet." Is that really trivia worthy?Micamike45 (talk) 00:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Changing Color in Biology

I moved the bit abot the purple "variant" to the same part that described it changing its color. This was reverted because Kecleon apparently only changes color when it feels a specific emotion or wants to blend in. From its Diamond and Pearl entry: It can freely change its body's color. The zigzag pattern on its belly doesn't change, however. The other entries gave examples of when one might choose to change color, but it is done freely, so yes, a Kecleon can easily just choose to appear purple, and as long as its red stripe doesn't change, it can do that. With this in mind, is it acceptable to redo the change? It still had all of the same information on the page (like, it still linked to the examples), and it's more accurate considering Kecleon's Pokédex; if any Kecleon can do that, I don't think it should be referred to as a trait of those individuals; that's kind of misleading about what Kecleon can and can't do in my opinion. Thoughts? EpicDeino (talk)