Talk:Mew (Pokémon)

Mew's abilities

In the first movie, mew used a bubble of pink psychic energy to save Ash. It also utilized this ability several other times throughout the movie. However, this is not stated in the "special abilities" section, alhtough what is stated is that mew can create forcefields. Forcefields and pink bubbles are two different things, this is best shown by the contrast between Mew "forcefield" in pokemon snap (which is also yellow/green) and Mew's Bubble in the first movie. So does anyone mind if I add in the bit about the pink bubbles?

Mew doesn't listen?

Mew doesn't listen to its original trainer? Is this true? --Pluvia 20:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

If you hack it in Gen III or IV, yes. Same with Deoxys. --TTEchidna 21:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this always the case? I've seen a hacked Mew (Gen IV) that (according to the owner) is completely obedient. Could this be because the friendship level is so high, or is it just a fluke? Featherflame 20:51, 8/10/07

Mew and Deoxys are obedient in Gen IV even if they're hacked. Vereux0 20:08, 8/20/07

In Gen III, Mew and Deoxys have an obediance bit. If this is missing, they won't obey. It is possible to hack a Mew or Deoxys and have it obey. To answer the question, it depends on how it's hacked. - MacGyver

And the obedience bit is automatically turned on when they get transferred over through Pal Park, I believe. TTEchidna 02:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

If a mew that is transfered from a GBA game that was hacked to get it,will it corrupt the D/P game? And will it listen? I'm just asking. [[1]]

Hmmm...I just tested this in diamond with an action replay thingy (don't worry i deleted the mew right after) and it works fine. Obeys and everything. -- Salome 23:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

mew glitch

i really dont think that the mew glitch should be in the in-game locations table, seeing as it is not actually a location, and not legitamite... any thoughts?

Bill33421 19:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

It's still a way to obtain Mew, and it can be done without cheating. --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Fun}File:224MS.gif 20:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Correction: without a using a cheat device. Most would consider abusing a glitch to be the same as cheating.--Dual 23:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that. Cerberus 03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

But it's kinda... I dunno, it's a glitch. Abusing glitches also means that Missingno shouldn't be here. People visit him on the side of Cinnabar to get 128 (or something~) Rare Candies and Master Balls. Tina ^δ♫ 03:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Given the nature of Mew's availability, it's just nice to have something in the table other than "Trade". --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 10:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe instead "Nintendo event"? TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- Awar 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC).

Imma add just 'Nintendo event'. Feel free to revert. Tina ^δ♫ 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh lol. >> It's already have been done. Er... heh. Tina ^δ♫ 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I must be insane....

Ok so Arceus tottaly conflicts with with mew but arceus came from an egg. What if mew was the egg and therefor is the ancestor of all pokemon mew just didnt "create" any new pokemon. In fact it was never even mentioned (to my knowlage) that he did. So therefor mew remains to look like a embryo (catching drift egg) and we shall never know~kittenchild

which came first, the Arceus or the Mew? -- MAGNEDETH 03:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well by my theory and using the myths it states that "...at the heart of chaos where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the original one." This states that the egg came before arceus.

Arceus was born from the cosmic Egg, but Mew contains the DNA of all Pokémon. It can be assumed that Arceus is the Creator and first Pokémon, but Mew is the common ancestor (assuming Arceus wasn't like Zeus who went spreading his genes all over the landscape).--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

oh and by this theory im not saying arceus didnt create the pokemon universe im saying mew didnt realy "create" anything he just kinda was there... and his Dna is in everything (pokemon of course)

Mew's Pokadex entry says that it is the ancestor of ALL Pokamon. And Arceus is the fat ass who created EVERYTHING (I then assume this includes Mewtwo Mew too). So, did Mew evolve into Arceus? Or did Arceus create Mew? It's all very confusing. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links08:06 21 May 2008

Arceus created Mew, then Mew created/whatever/evolved(evolved as in Apes into Humans, not Bulbasaur into Ivysaur)/mutated into other Pokémon. Maybe thats how it happened? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

But Mew evolved into Arceus. It is the ancestor of ALL Pokémon. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:50 21 May 2008

Hmm...errr...This is getting confusing! If thats true, but my theory is also true at the same time would that mean Arceus isn't a pokémon?! ...Then again, it's the GOD/Alpha(if i remember rightly), that would mean it would have HAD too have come first. Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Right, so why can it be captured in a Pokéball (FORGET THE RICE BALL INCIDENT!!!) Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:55 21 May 2008

...I know Arceus is a Pokémon i was just saying :\ Look. The way i see it, Arceus came first, created Mew, and Mew became the other Pokémon (not like, the Legendaries). Just because it's the ancestor of all Pokémon doesn't mean it's the ansector of the God Pokémon, i'm sure Mew isn't the ancestor of the Legendaries as it says Arceus created Palkia, Diagla and Giratina and some others (if i remember rightly!). Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 15:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

No noo noo. I meant mew hatched arceus (being the egg and all) and therefor because mew "created" (not realy) arceus' gentic meterial then arceus went to create the rest of the pokemon that genetic meterial caried over and mew never realy did squat...

Ok, this is what happened. First come Arceus. He say "I wanna Dialga and Palkia." And he made them. Next he say "Now i want universe." So he made universe. Next he say "I want living things." So he made Mew who laid eggs of Pokémon, and live-birthed humans. They all got up, but they each had no souls. Arceus say "Imma gonna give you souls." So he maid the lake trio who gave them all souls. Arceus fell asleep. Teh end. You can quote me on that. LordKaien 16:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

But Mew's Pokédex entry states that it's the ancestor of all Pokémon. Here's what I think happened:

1. The egg of Arceus is created from the chaos.
2. The egg hatches.
3. The eggshell, which was made of genetic material, forms into Mew. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Arceus.)
4. Arceus creates Dialga and Palkia. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Dialga and Palkia.)
5. Arceus creates Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf.)
6. Mew's descendants are all slightly different, and their descendants are slightly more different, and so on, until there are all of the different species of Pokémon. (This makes Mew the ancestor of all other Pokémon.)

--S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 00:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The Pokédex in Diamond & Pearl doesn't specifically state that Mew may be the ancestor of all Pokémon. Just that many scientists believe that it's the ancestor of Pokémon... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 17:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You have to admit, it may be that Arceus created Mew, then Mew created the rest of the Pokémon. At least, that's what it looks like.BlueJirachi 20:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

That's the idea I had as well. Arceus took to slumber after creating reality and Mew created all other Pokémon. Perhaps Arceus created all Legendaries and Mew created the rest. Sinnoh myths only mention Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio because most people don't know of the other Legendary Pokémon of the region, and they probably wouldn't know of another region's Legendaries. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's subjects like this that just make you wish you could get Tajiri to do an interview r something...(Fossilgojira 21:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC))

Yeah, only a few people in Sinnoh know about other Legendaries living in their own backyard like Cresselia and Heatran. The book in Canalave City apparently refers to Arceus as the "Original One", meaning that Arceus came before Mew.BlueJirachi 20:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

General consensus is all that is indicated by the Pokedex. Arceus is known to have created Palkia and Dialga, who in turn created the universe, while he created Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf, who are credited with the creation of "spirit". This obviously makes them the progenitors of pokemon and humans. It's also worth noting that they all bear a more-than-superficial resemblance to Mew, all being extraordinarily powerful psychic pokemon. Mew, I believe, was their first collaborative creation, combining the essences of Knowledge, Emotion and Willpower into a single entity. It was unstable, so as it laid eggs, they hatched into things that definitely were NOT Mew. That instability diluted acrost generations until pokemon species were all stable (except, of course, Mew). The exemptions to this origin are Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, and the Lake Trio, for obvious reasons; Giratina, likely spontaneously creating itself upon the first death; and Darkrai, created gradually by psychoses, rage, and bad pizza forming nightmares. Shaymin most likely IS Mew-descended as we have no reason to think otherwise. Forgive me for talking so heavily in-universe, and remember all this is prefaced with "I believe...". SixthFlyingMan 03:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, Cresselia, she was formed of good dreams rather than nightmares, and not of Mew. SixthFlyingMan 06:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

discovery?

who discovered Mew, Team Rocket of Professor Oak? the Official Pokémon Handbook says Oak, but it seems like TR was behind it. Mooites 03:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The Handbooks take a lot of...liberties...I for one don't particularly trust them with this sort of thing.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it's because Mew has an entry in the Pokédex that they figure that Oak discovered it. If Team Rocket discovered Mew, would anyone else know about it? ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 14:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

FireRed and Leafgreen say that some scientists from Cinnabar discovered Mew in South America.BlueJirachiWishMaker 14:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

TM lists

Is it really necessary for list every single TM/HM under By TM/HM? Why not state that Mew can learn any TM/HM available and link them to the TM and HM pages? -Chosen of Mana

It's most likely to remain consistant with the other pages... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

But its a much better idea to do what Chosen of Mana said as it wastes much less space Wikid 22:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Wikid

If that's true, it's a much better idea to combine Caterpie and Metapod's pages with Butterfree's, too, because the first two are USELESS. But we don't. Bulbapedia strives for completeness. Plus, you can just copy/paste Mew's learnset and subtract from it what you need to when adding them to the other Pokémon pages. Plus, think of it this way, you can see the contest stats for all of them, as well as the PP, type, power, damage category, and so on. Can you do that if we were just to put "LOL, EVERYTHING"? Nope.

Which is... pretty much why I think the move articles need an overhaul. I'll work on that later on. TTEchidna 23:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Disobediance

This quote in the Game locations section...:

"In Generation III onward, Mew does not obey when found in the wild by use of a cheating device."

...is not true. I've obtained Mew through Action Replay and they obey. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 05:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I removed the statement. I used the "encounter any Pokémon in the wild" cheat to catch a shiny Mew in Diamond and it obeys just fine. No problems at all. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Technically this happens only in Generation III. The same is true for a Deoxys caught with a GameShark or other cheating device, but I've only seen it disobey in Gen. 3. Blazevoir 19:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I did come across a Mew in Gen III that didn't listen, but there are other codes out there that allow you to catch a Mew that does obey. And not just the Mew found in Emerald. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

time to hatch

Umm...How can Mew have a "time to hatch" when afaik it is impossible to get a Mew egg? Kidburla 23:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Every Pokémon is given that datum, whether it can come from an egg or not. Presumably so the game doesn't collapse in on itself. We get this stuff by digging around in the game data.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

giving birth

I'm not so sure that when the programmers put "mew gave birth" into the diary, that that's what they literally meant. Couldn't it be more of a metaphor for the fact that after all the hard work the scientists went through, they wrote mew gave birth because the scientists were finally able to successfully clone mew? Although it wasn't stated in the games, in the anime it's mentioned that there were others before Mewtwo that didn't survive the cloning process. So maybe it's possible that they meant the cloning was finally a success rather than mew actually giving birth. InuMimi 19:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

That's exactly what I think as well. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 13:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Mew 'gave birth' in the literal sense, either. I think by that statement it's implying Mew's DNA birthed Mewtwo. Wicked Weavile 10:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)