Talk:Paul

Another Shinji

There's another Shinji in the Pokémon Anime. He's the Hitmonlee Trainer from Legend Of Raikou movie. He was unnamed in English Version. Should there be a disambiguation? And it's pretty possible that Hitmonlee Shinji's dub name is Sean because Chronicles characters's names are taken from the trainers from GSC and there is Cooltrainer named Shinji in the game, and his name Sean in English Version. The same rule was used for Kenta/Jimmy, Jun'ichi/Vincent, Takumi/Jared, Tsuyoshi/Corey and every other character from Chronicles who shared the name with trainer in GSC (except Tsutomu/Georgio, for some reason). --Maxim 18:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It makes sense, but I'm against it. Recently, May was turned into a disambig page. I've since been going through every article linking to the correct one. I suppose with Shinji it wouldn't be that big of a deal, since he hasn't been in that many episodes, but it's such a time-consuming task to do that. --PAK Man 22:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

So if it is to be done, do it now rather than having a harder job later.

There's also Lake Shinji/Trust. --FabuVinny 20:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe better to wait for English DP. When English DP game and anime is released, all things and character will get own English named and disambig won't be needed anymore. --Maxim 20:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. By the time the English DP comes out, the Japanese names won't really matter anymore. --PAK Man 20:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, now with Shinji Miyazaki, shouldn't there be a disambig like there is with Satoshi? --TTEchidna 06:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, wait until Shinji's US name is revealed. When it'll be, the disambiguation won't be needed anymore. --Maxim 14:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

But Satoshi is Ash's Japanese name, and Shigeru is Gary's... --TTEchidna 20:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

But Satoshi and Shigeru are Pokémon Anime's very main protagonists and Satoshi Tajiri and Shigeru Miyamoto are most well-known people related to Pokémon. And the disambiguation was also needed because of Satoshi and Shigeru in Zensho. I'm not sure if it is so much needed for Shinji, as he isn't as important as Satoshi & Shigeru, as well as Miyazaki is not as important as are Tajiri & Miyamoto. I don't support this disambig. --Maxim 21:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Shinji is just as important as Shigeru. --FabuVinny 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Weavile & Torterra????

I saw the trailer for the DP040, and it looked like Paul was battling against Cynthia with a Weavile and a Torterra. Are these his new Pokémon? -- Kenji Girl 19:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Since it's only the preview, I would wait until the episode airs to list them as his. --PAK Man ^Talk 20:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

They are both his old Pokémon and one thing notable is that Torterra is his starter Pokémon, not Chimchar.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm I know that now. I made that comment like six months ago. Before the episode premiered. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 09:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

friend?

who besid me thinks later on he gonna travel with ash brock & dawn

No one. --Pie ^~♪♫ 03:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

shut up [im a mime so you cant tell me to shut up]

And I'm the editor-in-chief, so you can't tell me to shut up. Unless you want to be blocked from editing. --Pie ^~♪♫ 19:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

His age?

Where does it say Paul is 11? He doesn't look like or sound like he's 11. - Jonah 15:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It's also explained that he is actually an experienced Trainer wgo travelled over Kanto, Johto and Hoenn. So, how old was he when he started his first Pokémon Journey? He looks rather like 14. I really hate how everyone underages characters. --Maxim 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you may be right here. He travels through three regions (presumeably on foot, as we've seen nothing for him to ride or Fly on...) and competes in their tournaments (which are yearly, IIRC) and he's only 11? Someone with a decent grasp of jaspanese needs to have a long talk with Pokeani. - Alan

then what about ash's age didn't he do the same thing-Sonicflames

Like has been said: They never told us anything. Paul has no official age, either. He could be 10, too, even if he sounds a lot older. TTEchidna 05:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Second Son

Paul's Japanese name is Shinji and it means faithful second son right? Well its been implied that Silver is Giovanni's son and similarities have been shown between Paul and Silver right? So what if Paul is Giovanni's second son? but that's crazy right?

Paul/Brandon

Was it really needed to lose that bit? It was in the Trivia section and might be worth keeping in mind in case it turns out be true. Or gets proven false, whichever comes first. - Cassius335

No! Because encyclopedic article isn't place for stupid fanspeculations. Paul can be ANYONE's son. Tell me, why Brandon? We don't care about fanwanks. And sign your comments! --Maxim 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, sorry, I forgot. As for 'Why Brandon'... well, look at them. Compared to the likes of Brock and his mother, they're practically identical, Paul's just shorter. - Cassius335

Fearow

Didn't paul try to capture a fearow in an episode? And by the end we didn't know what had happened to it? So why don't we put it under unconfirmed? idk how to make it the shiny green onejapaneese name was luckyan espeonSLE_Amanmy favorite pokemon

Nugai

I agree with whoever took out the bit about Paul being referred to as "Nugai" by Pie. I'm highly critical of the justification, "It was important piece of fanon history." His name was revealed shortly after his first appearance in Coro Coro. One American on one message board calling him Nugai, a made-up confusingly Japanese-sounding name, for a couple weeks doesn't really deserve a mention in this article, I don't think, even if it was an admin who coined the term. --Greengiant 21:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It was hardly just Pie calling him that. Everyone did until his real name was revealed. So yes, that is a fact worth noting about Paul. Plus, if someone came across the name when looking at stuff from that time and decided to use Bulbapedia to see who it was, they are currrently able to find the information on it. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 21:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let the name stay there but why do we need to keep who coined it as well? If a person was reading this article, does it matter to him who coined the name? File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 22:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It does to posterity. Allow the guy his small slice of history, will ya? Cassius335 22:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Pie is female. Anyway, I really don't see what the problem is. It's one sentence in the trivia section and it certainly isn't worth having a seperate "fanon terminology" article. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 00:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Final Pokemon

Any guesses on Paul's final Pokémon? File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 18:36, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Feraligatr! File:Ani491MS.gifKPFFile:Ani123MS.gif 18:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Magmortar, unless someone else shows up with one first. He did say he was looking for a new Fire-type to replace Chimchar. Cassius335 19:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I think it will be Floatzel. To be a rival for Ash's Buizel. Most of Ash's Pokemon kinda has a rival in Paul's team. Chimchar (or if it evolves)Infernape's rival is Torterra, Pikachu's rival is Electabuzz and Staravia's rival is maybe Murkrow. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 09:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget Wake has a Floatzel coming up (plus Shinji having a Floatzel would be too much like Kenny's Prinplup.) Cassius335 12:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Who the **** is this "Wake" guy? The gym leader with the Floatzel is Crasher Wake. I've never heard of anyone simply called "Wake".

Besides, I highly doubt Paul will have a Floatzel. With these rumors of Dawn's Aipom evolving going around, Ash's Buizel evolving is pretty much guaranteed, and odds are it will occur around the same time Aipom evolves. --Shiningpikablu252 16:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Why are you making such an issue of it? Judging by the attitude of his Gym trainers, Wake is his actual name. Anyway, I doubt Buizel's rival would be the same species. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 16:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Definatly Magmorter. Look at Electabuzz. TESHTALKFUN 16:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Buizel will evolve. Floatzel just doesn't suit Ash. Anyway, two trainers can have the same Pokémon. Gardenia and Ash both had a Turtwig at the same time. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 18:10, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but do it too often among the main and recurring cast and people start wondering why you're repeating Pokemon so much when there's nearly 500 of the damn things to choose between. it looks unoriginal. Cassius335 18:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

He did travel through Johto, so i thought that he would have a Feraligatr, plus it would match Ash's possible return of Cyndaquil. File:Ani491MS.gifKPFFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Chances are its going to be a Pokémon that's somehow related to the Johto region. If you look at Paul's team, almost all of them have some connection with the place. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 18:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Houndoom, anyone? It's Fire-type, looks badass, and a Gen II Pokémon. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 23:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Probably a Magmortar, to replace Chimchar because he said he will catch another powerful fire-type Pokémon after releasing Chimchar in DP052.I think there aren't any fire-type Pokémon that is stronger than Magmortar except Heatran in Sinnoh!
Or it can be a Fearow, and perhaps it is the Fearow that attack Ash and co. in Pallet Party Panic.It is afraid of Ash's Pidgeot and it don't know where to go.It fly to Sinnoh accidentally and is captured by Paul because it is a strong Fearow.So Ash can send Pidgeot's Poké ball to Professor Oak and asked him to get back Pidgeot for him so that he can fulfill his promise with Pidgeot.And the two birds can meet and battle again in the Sinnoh League.That Spearow will definitely be once again defeat by Pidgeot and making Paul lose to Ash for the first time.I guess that battle between Ash and Paul will be the final.So the thing that was mentioned by Lucian in An Elite Meet and Greet! will be proved.
Well, everyone of us just call Ash Ketchum Ash.I wonder if there is anyone who call Ash Ash Ketchum except the referees in Gym battles and Leagues battles.So whether we call Crasher Wake Wake or Crasher Wake doesn't matter.
Of course buizel will evolve!Blaziken doesn't suit May also but it is now a Blaziken.Buizel probably has already battled with many trainers like Zoey and Ash before being capture by Dawn.It is now traded to Ash so it is easier for it to gain experience to evolve.It is competitive towards others and I think it is extremely willing to evolve to let itself become a stronger.Perhaps it will evolve in the battle against Maylene.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Well guys, it's finally revealed who Paul's final Pokémon is. Its not Magmortar or Floatzel. It's............GLISCOR????(what the heck!!!) File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 19:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

No way, he would release Ursaring or Weavile(seemed rubbish in Paul's point of view) for the space for a Magmortar or a Houndoom for GSDS.Please remember that he always likes to release his WEAK Pokémon!-Billy4b2004 04:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The opening section

...is a bit harsh now. Has Paul actually stated that bonding with Pokémon would "make them weak and useless"? Being friends is Pokémon is obviously not his style but calling him arrogant for that seems a bit much. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 23:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

He said that in DP040. Well, he said slackers but what's the difference?. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 09:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is a difference in that. I still don't think he can be described as arrogant, though. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 16:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Do you think we should create a disambiguation page for Paul? Because that is the last name of one of the voice actors, Ed Paul. Or should we put one of those warnings at the top of the page like we have for Ash and the Sacred ash? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm for warning. I don't like making disambigs for the sake of making disambigs. It's not needed. --Maxim 11:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Turtle

Does it really matter if that Gary and Paul both started with Turtles? --DarthCookieMonster 15:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia never really matters.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. Cassius335 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia is trivia. It's just funny facts. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The Pokémon for Paul to replace Chimchar

Paul said he will catch another powerful fire-type Pokémon after releasing Chimchar in DP052.So what will be that Pokémon?I strongly believe that it is a Magmortar because it is the most powerful fire-type Pokémon in Sinnoh apart from Heatran.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you know he said he would capture another Fire-type? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 09:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I watched the Japanese version of that episode.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you speak Japanese? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 09:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

No, hear only.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Paul refusing the Soothe Bell

Couldn't we mention in Trivia that Paul giving away the Soothe Bell means he doesn't care about getting his Pokémon to warm up to him?

In the games, Soothe Bells are use to get a Pokémon to like you faster. I figured that this was the anime's way of saying that Paul doesn't care whether his Pokémon like him or not. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Brother??

Seriously? Where did you get this info from? Just curious.

Wonder if he'll be nice. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It's on TV Tokyo. And given that he is a Pokémon Breeder, he is bound to be nicer than Paul. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Reiji is it? How much you wanna bet his dub name will be "Reggie"? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't. From Shinji to Paul. From Reiji to Saul or something^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 05:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Shinji sounds like the Japanese word for Pearl so was only named Paul to be a play off of "Pearl". Reiji is probably not going to be a play off of anything. They'll probably just go with the closest English name like Kengo to Kenny or Nozomi to Zoey. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

His Electabuzz

Does anyone but me think that his Electabuzz is a child of Reiji's Electabuzz??? After all, Reiji is Paul's brother and Electabuzz was originally an Elekid....--Theryguy512 00:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Could be. We'll see. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 05:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it would be really sad for Paul's if it is true, its father/mother is being taken care of by a breeder and it is being taken care of by a guy who never cares about his Pokemon's feelings......-Billy4b2004 10:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I doubt that it would get used to the care of Reiji......-Billy4b2004 02:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it would become another Chimchar and end up with Reiji!:P-Billy4b2004 10:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Kill

Is it just me or is Paul out for blood in his Pokemon battls? Cerberus 01:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

What? Tina ^δ♫ 01:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

He seems to be tring to kills the other Pokemon. Cerberus 01:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

..I think that's too violent for a "kid's show". I mean, yeah, there was the Latios that died and stuff but a trainer almost forcing their Pokémon to kill the opponent? No. Just no. Tina ^δ♫ 01:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm with Cerberus here but I;m with the "kid's show" with Tina^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 01:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not like any Pokémon died in the episodes (from his attack), right? -goes back to episode 43 of mega man- Ph34r4ever^{Talk page♊} 02:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

He doesn't care for the Pokémon themselves, but he plays by the rules - making the opponent faint, not die. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 02:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism to the Wikipedia article

Someone keeps putting Pete Capella in parenthesis although we kno Rebolledo does the voice so PAKMan will you block that person ? Livinlarge18 12:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, I have no control over what goes on at Wikipedia. Let one of their administrators know. --PAK Man ^Talk 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea, we and Wikipedia are two totally different websites. --Theryguy512 20:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Rowan, We Have A Problem.

Viewers of the most recent episode are repoting Paul beating Maylene with a Magmar. While the "Paul gets Magmortar" crowd grin like idiots, there's a slight glitch: Magmar would push Paul's team to 7 members on hand, which is obviously impossible. So how the heck do we configure the "On hand" section now? - Cassius335 12:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On the latest episode Paul reveals that he has a Magmar, now one problem, do we have to show Seven Pokémon on his team? Since we can't say which one he released, if ever. Ej92 12:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it's Ursaring or Weavile.-Billy4b2004 12:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dammit, Ej92! I already started a section about this. - Cassius335 13:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops! sorry... Ej92 06:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd say Ursaring because he's never used it in battle before.

He did use it in a battle against TR......-Billy4b2004 15:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Configuring the On hand section; what about adding a row with Magmar in it and then stating that as of DP066, we know Paul has a Magmar, but it is unknown which Pokémon it replaced? --PAK Man ^Talk 15:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice thought, looks silly. - Cassius335 17:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, how about that? - Cassius335 17:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Status Unknown!!! jeez, put it there cuz its so confusing!! KPF30px 30px 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Huh, it seems like the question is answered. According to people at Bulbagarden, Reji's Electabuzz... is really Shinji's, left in his brothers care. - Cassius335 17:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

That's correct, the Eleboo at Reiji's house is actually Shinji's. The template and Shinji's Eleboo article has already been updated with this. Matkin22 18:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

kill paul

who wants to kill paul?! I DO! Samrulz123File:Ani151MS.gif 04:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Why would you want to kill him? I mean he should be your favorite character since he picks out the strongest Pokémon. Did you say that Ash is a loser cause he doesn't keep strong Pokémon? Well Paul does.

Oh yeah, and you can't kill a cartoon character cause they're not real. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The best character are those who are foils to the protagonists. Paul should stick around. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 06:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually don't like most of the people in the anime. I don't even know why I don't like Ash and Gary and all those people...but there are reasons if I could just think of them, but they all seem to just suck. I reckon that Cynthia is the strongest person in the whole thing at the moment, but yeah....Samrulz123File:Ani151MS.gif 07:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't you talk about stuff like this in the fourms? >_> Angerman 08:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I prefer Paul as a rival more than I do Gary.

Paul is awesome. He shouldn't goC Isfor Cookie 13:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

O.o He shouldn't go -Mareep- On the Third Day... LOL. Optimatum^Talk|♊11:00 22 Mar 2008

Paul is an antagonist. This kind of hate just tells me that the writers are doing their job well. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I reckon Cyrus might be his dad.I might look at his counterpart Silver,they have the same hair style,they act the same,thier party Pokemon are almost the same and Silver's dad is Giovanni so I reckon he might be related to Cyrus in someway.User:Agent008

Personality/Pokemon Team Connection

Everyone knows how Paul has a dark peronality, right? Well he has Gliscor and Weavile, who are formed when Gligar and Sneasel evolve holding Razor Fang/Claw respectively... at night! WHEN IT'S DARK! Both Gliscor and Weavile also have an evil, deceiving/mischievous personality! Anyone see where I am going with this?--KukiTalk 21:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Completely into fanwank? Paul isn't particularly dark, just unemotional. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 21:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

K--KukiTalk 21:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Paul's Gliscor is GROUND-Flying, not DARK-Flying. Maybe it's a nocturnal Pokémon?BlueJirachi 19:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's blame it on Mesprit again...Taviource 01:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure...Touch Mesprit and you lose all your emotions. Yeah, right like that actually happened with Paul. BlueJirachi 01:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you never know. After all, he is Paul.Taviource 01:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...To be honest, I believed Cyrus lost his emotions by touching Mesprit in the game, when he was younger. The resemblance in personality with Paul's is uncanny, though. Still, Paul's disposition follows Silver's. I doubt he encountered Mesprit. BlueJirachi 02:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw your comment about that earlier. That's where I thought of this.--Taviource 02:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Maybe Paul really IS unemotional and unfeeling. His Pokémon had nothing to do with it and if they fail to meet his demands, he might as well release them, like he did with Chimchar. BlueJirachi 02:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There's a possibility that he would meet Mesprit again and be normal again.--Taviource 02:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

magmar

should'nt pauls magmar have it's own page discuss - unsigned comment from Tylerkarnes (talk • contribs)

One tiny appearance does not warrent an article. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)they gave paul's gliscor a page before it's second apperance

BUT GLISCOR DIDN"T APPEAR IN A TINY FLASHBACK!!!!--KukiTalk 20:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)magmar still demonstrated 2 attacks and was in a gym battle