Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions/Archive 2

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Previous discussion

• Archive 1 (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)

Question about the talk page thing notice at the top

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that talk pages are for discussing the article and its content, not its subject? A lot of what happens on talk pages is discussing content, such as whether or not to delete or add something, something to change, etc. --エルレイド 05:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You didn't see anything.... *waves hands mysteriously* — THE TROM — 06:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

lol Okay. *mysteriously loses memory of the incorrect wording* What was I complaining about again? --エルレイド 06:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Date announced

See this! It's on September 12. ^tc²₆tc₂₆ 06:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree! *celebrates* Now, when's it coming out in America...? --エルレイド 06:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

• It also should be noted that even if Google's translation had the right month the problem is it was too early before the release date was announced. -Tyler53841 14:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The fact that Google's (mis)translation had the right month was a coincidence, because the original Japanese text only said "fall 2009." --Evice 20:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Due to this not being added... Once template gets modified, add the following instead of "Story on Bulbanews"

{{bulbanews|game}}--Mew* a.k.a. Prmatt11 was here at 13:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Pedometer

Does anyone know if this is an actual pedometer that measures steps you, the human behind the DS, take, or if it's like the pedometer poketch app? It could easily be either, so maybe I'm not alone in thinking it should be given that detail in the article... Or maybe I'm just dumb. :P Mageslayer 00:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

That last thing. It's a regular pedometer, due to each step you take, the monster deposited gains an EXP point.--Mew* a.k.a. Prmatt11 was here at 00:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Two edit requests an admin never responded to

I put these on the talk page previously (they're archived now), and an admin never responded:

Is it worth mentioning that the New Pokédex (Johto Pokédex) has its own numbering system this time? The numbers weren't displayed in Gen II. --Evice 03:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[The Wikipedia remake article link in the opening paragraph] currently links here; it should instead link here, as the latter link discusses the type of remake HeartGold and SoulSilver are while the former discusses remakes in general, including unrelated types of remakes such as movie remakes. --Evice 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC) [An admin took care of this. --Evice 00:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)]

Can those be added? --Evice 20:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

1. We don;'t know that for sure, it could be the same as the old Johto Dex.
2. I'm no admin, So I can't help on that......--ForceFire 22:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

When I said the Johto Pokédex has its own numbering system, I meant that the numbers were displayed. The order's the same from what has been seen (the Pokémon shown have numbers that match up with the Johto numbers on their Bulbapedia pages), it just has numbering this time. In the original games, the New Pokédex didn't display numbers on the list screen, and when you viewed a Pokémon's data, it used the National numbering. --Evice 23:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it's too early to say either way. We don't know for sure that the Johto Dex in HGSS will be the same as it was in Generation II. I sorta doubt Kanto Starters and Legendaries will be put in it, unless there's a way to get them in HGSS..Purimpopoie 00:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

They were in the original without being available in GS. --エルレイド 00:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The order and the Pokémon present are irrelevant for what I want to be added. The point of the edit I want to be made is that numbers are displayed on the Johto Pokédex's list in HGSS, unlike in GSC in which it didn't. The point is to add a change that is confirmed to have been made, and that is numbering in the Johto Pokédex's list, with those numbers also being used in the entries, rather than using the National numbering in the Pokémon pages and no numbering at all in the list. Originally numbers were only displayed in the list if the Old Pokédex mode (i.e. Gen II's equivalent of the National Pokédex) was used, and the numbers shown in the screenshots of HGSS's Pokédex are not the National numbering. --Evice 00:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I went ahead and typed out a suggested edit to the Pokédex changes listed:

* Much like Kanto's was for its remakes, Johto's Pokédex has been redesigned; however, just the same, it retains the same [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Pokédex order]] referred to as the "New Pokédex" in [[Generation II]]. However, unlike in Generation II, the numbers used are displayed in the listing and the entries (originally the listing did not display numbering, while the entries displayed the [[National Pokédex]]'s numbering when viewed).- unsigned comment from Evice (talk • contribs)

Grammar fix

"These games' will be released in Japan nearly one year after the Japanese release of Pokémon Platinum."

Remove the apostrophe from "games'". --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 01:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Arceus Event

Source

If you trade Arceus over to Heart Gold & Soul Silver and take it with you to a specific, currently unknown location, you will meet up with Champion Cynthia. She will explain that Arceus has the ability to create newborn Pokémon. You have the option of choosing between the three dragons, Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, all level 1. You must choose wisely, however, as you may keep only one.

050294 01:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

We already have this image. Way to look around the Archives before uploading anything. Seriously, good job. ^Maverick_Nate 03:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I was just trying to help. Besides, the information hasn't even been uploaded to this article, so the additional, HELPFUL information towards this future game isn't a bad thing, and the image was a minor fault on my part. Way to be an ass. -- 050294 20:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Way to lose your cool. It's done now. — THE TROM — 00:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Might I remind everyone that this is for discussing the article. Asking for something to be added is OK. Insulting each other, not so much. --((Marton imos)) 01:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Can someone please add the new information from high quality trailer?

The official HG/SS website updated with a higher quality video as many of us already know. Serebii.net just updated with some pictures from the trailer. It shows Morty in the Ecrutek city Gym which appeared to have received a redesign. It also shows an unknown Gym puzzle with lava which many speculate to be the Blackthorn Gym. The trailer also shows that Pokemon following you on the field can use their HM moves to get rid of obstacles. Of many things, Serebii shows a picture of Tyranitar using rock smash in Cainwood City, and some pictures of Gold and Totodile and Soul and Chikorita walking around with Totodile around Violet city and Ecrutek city, and a battle with Typhlosion and Meganium versus Feraligatr and Tyranitar. Tyranitar, Feraligatr, and Mareep sport new front sprites which may or may not be beta. --Dialgafan1 16:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

"Burned" Tower

Could someone please change the link in the Gallery section to Brass Tower, since that's what it's English name is. Dolphins_are_awesome (and Vulpix are too)! 21:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

That was what it was called before the fire. It was called the Burned Tower in G/S/C. --エルレイド 21:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention that there were no mentions of the name "Brass Tower" in Gold/Silver, only in Crystal...--Shiningpikablu252 21:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Burned Tower is Brass Tower, but in the games you can't visit it before it's burned. The Brass Tower name is the same as if, in PMTTYD you called Rogueport the ancient city that the demon destroyed. TTEchidna 22:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Put this image in please

I found photos of the Red Gyarados from HG/SS.
[1] [2]
All I need to do now is to upload it here. Giratina Joe - Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT 05:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Those are terrible quality. We don't put bad quality pics up...We will wait for clearer pics.--^Psychic_Rider^☮ 05:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. But what it counts is that I found the images. Giratina Joe - Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT 05:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it kinda does...All the pics on the page are not bad quality...--^Psychic_Rider^☮ 05:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The Red Gyarados alone is of mediocre quality, sure. But the other one? That's... ew. TTEchidna 05:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

We can wait for high-quality scans or screenshots. --((Marton imos)) 06:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

pokethlon

why does pokethlon doesn't have any page at all and no one ever put here in this page

Pokéthlon--ForceFire 10:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello? Any admins here? Echo!

Change "Story on Bulbanews" to {{bulbanews|game}}- unsigned comment from Immewnity (talk • contribs)