Talk:Surf (move)

Add something to Trivia?

I think we should add that this move can be learned by most of the pokemon (123 in Generation IV). Or that this is the most learned Water type in this game so far.

no, because moves like Hidden Power and Toxic can be learned by ANYONE. itd be like saying Fly can be learned by almost any Flying type. its self explanitory. Surf = water type. therefor, almost all the water types can learn it, along with the odd one here and there. File:Ani081MS.gifMAGNEDETHFile:Ani082MS.gifTALKFile:Ani462MS.gif 04:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Umm...

Ditto, Caterpie, Metapod, Weedle, and Kakuna can't learn hidden power Chuck67322 05:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hidden beta item

I think we should add this little trivia fact (I have done this, and it works!): There's a hidden key item in the Generation 1 games called ????? that allows you to Surf outside of battle without the need for HM03. It can be obtained with the Gameshark code for item modifying, with the hex variable set to 07. If the game is saved while the code is active, the item stays in the pouch like any other key item, even after the GameShark is removed. To use, just go up to water, and select it from the item pouch. The item was created in the beta versions, and later made unavailable, but not removed entirely. --隼也 じゅんや 17:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like it could just be a simple glitch rather than a beta item. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 19:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, but either way, it's there, and I just think people should know about it. --隼也 じゅんや 21:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Anime Surf

Unless the trainer specifically says's "Use Surf", then the occurrence should not be listed under the 'In the anime' section. --Theryguy512 22:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Pics in the article

Why does the picture in this article show Pikachu use Surf? I think it's better to use a picture of a Pokémon who can normally learn the move and not Pikachu that learn it only by event. ---Samu- 17:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoever put it there...probably put it up for bragging rights. I think what's important is that a pic of a Pokémon using the move is there. |>H1|23•57R1K3 19:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah the new trivia...

You know, it'd be better if we had a list of these moves, or a category... or something. TTEchidna 18:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't that just be a matter of going through the TM, HM and move tutor moves? I'm fairly sure, but could be mistaken, that all TMs and MTs are learned via level up for one Pokémon, so that just leaves the HMs. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Dive, Rock Climb and Surf...? — THE TROM — 21:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Not Dive. Nine Pokémon learn it via leveling up in Gen. IV. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, when I added that earlier today, I actually didn't pay any attention to the move I was looking at. Realizing that it's an HM makes much sense. Kevin Y (talk) 22:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Squirtle?

I know Squirtle has never outright used the move surf but the move page indicates that it has. As I realize that Ash has used him for water transportation multiple times I can understand why someone might put that BUT this is still an inconsistancy between pages and I'm not sure which one should be changed...same goes for Misty's Starmie -- D558 01:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Seriously? That was taken out a while ago and somebody added it back.... R.A. Hunter Blade 16:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I added it. On the Pokemon race thing, Misty surfs on Starmie, and Pikachu surfs on squirtle. They were surfing, so i just added it. User:Littlmiget123

That's just swimming quickly though. Otherwise EVERY Water Pokémon would know Surf. R.A. Hunter Blade 17:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:But Misty and Pikachu was riding on their backs? User: Littlmiget123

Swimming, while ferrying passengers. The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 18:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It's like in Mewtwo Strikes Back, when everyone rode on a Water Pokémon to get to the island. It's just swimming. R.A. Hunter Blade 18:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Mewtwo?

Mewtwo is listed as being capable of using Surf in every generation on this page, but on Mewtwo's page it is not listed on his moveset, nor can I find any evidence that Mewtwo can learn Surf anywhere else.--JacobCrystal 20:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe that's called a fail. —darklordtrom 20:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Double Battles - Base Power

Shouldn't it be pointed out that Surf's Base Power drops if facing two opponents in a Double Battle? And that the Base Power is restored if there's only 1 opponent left in the Double Battle. Well, it is in Gen III anyway. I don't know if the partner-hitting properties of Surf added in Gen IV changes that last fact. --Raylax 23:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)