User talk:MAGNEDETH/Archive7

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Apology Accepted?

Magnedeth, upon realizing how wrong my actions toward you and all the other sysop of the pedia, I would like to apologize for how antagonistically I have acted towards you. Please find it in your heart to forgive me.

Much♥, Lapras 03:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

i dont hold grudges, so if you can prove to me youve changed, i will forgive you. -- MAG NE DETH 04:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

New TCG

Hey, I saw that Maverick Nate is on Hiatus and it said to redirect stuff to you. I found some Trading Cards on the official Japanese Pokémon Website, and I couldn't find a couple on here. The ones I found were Anime Characters Pokémon. There are two pages for that one, just scroll down and click 2. Also, for the Anime Characters Pokémon the Pichu cards are animated. Second, I found the Movie 12 Pokémon Cards. I hope those are of some use. -MasterKenobi 23:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

to quote Nate himself

 All TCG questions go to Nuva-kal!

me and Nate figured the big text would be enough, but i guess not. -- MAG NE DETH 05:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't consider that a TCG "question". Thanks though.-MasterKenobi 15:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

well, youre showing me pictures of TCG info, what kind of question was it?? -- MAG NE DETH 17:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I posted it on Nuva-kal's page, so done. -MasterKenobi 18:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk page

See here. What I wrote. Agreed? ^ht 14 15:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

PLEASE HELP!

I've spoted a guy that is making a mess around here deleting things *specially* from the latin america spanish dub related stuff so I wanted to ask you for help! If you could check him and... I don't know! Do something he has no reason or power to do such horrible things! His user name is Ash Ketchum Peru! I've been undoing his edits! please do something :D THANKS! (i don't mean to be rude or anything ;) but your an admin right? i totally forgot and i can't check that right know since I'm undoing this guy stuff)YukitoOoO 17:18, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

i dont know anything about Latin dub, so ive given him an edit flood block, but someone is going to have to step-in and help. really not my area. -- MAG NE DETH 17:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

OH MY GOD! Thank you sooo much! LOL I was about to go nuts here! I really apreciate it! he had absolutely no reason for doing this, only that he hates anything that has to do with the latin american dub, you can actually see this for your self in youtube, but he uses another name he is "Maestro POkemon peru" he had another acount there that was like "pokemonmasterperu" but got suspended for some bad things I think, just like what eh was doin here, he used to see latinamerican pokemon videos just to offend others and the dub! Agh! this guy! but, wait a minute, why only 2 hours? whe he comes back his going to keep doing the same thing! YukitoOoO 17:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

well, im obligated to give him a chance, but if he does it again when he returns, then we up the ante. -- MAG NE DETH 17:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh Ok I see, thanks!!! And you're going to block his IP adress too right? YukitoOoO 17:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

no, we dont block IPs unless its a super bad vandal. blocking one IP can potentially block an entire ISP, which means many people would be blocked form the site. -- MAG NE DETH 18:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Villa

Villa (Reverted edits by CubeShapedWatermelon (Talk) to last version by Mario136) Why? That is what happens on almost a daily basis CubeShapedWatermelon 01:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Welcoming

Is anyone allowed to welcome new users? This may sound like a stupid question to you, but... --CUBONE PWNS (Planet Cubone • Bone Club) THE VERY BEST PAGE! 22:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone is. Just use this: {{subst:welcome}}. Copy and paste that, and done. ^ht 14 00:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

question?

i am sorry, i didn't realize that i was wrong. but for future reference, what exactly is a userspace and a mainspace? i have no idea, i am new at this stuff. Empath-Silvio 15:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

i think i got it. thanks anyway Empath-Silvio 15:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

well, just to be clear, userspace is anything that starts with user, like my page or your page. and main space is anything that does not have a pre-fix, like Magnemite, EP030, Ethan, etc.... -- MAG NE DETH 16:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

why have you given me a warning?

i'm new to bulbapedia.Why cant i edit my userspace? - unsigned comment from Solidstate (talk • contribs)

You can, But you have to Balance out your Userspace edits with your Mainspace edits. You were editing your Userspace a lot. and please sign ~~~~ after your comment. ---> 223☆Dåv]d 07:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon Simulator

Why did you destroy the Pokémon Simulator article that I wrote? -from Pokemaster5000

not written to spec, possibly not notable, and you spelled Pokémon wrong. also, sign comments with 4 tildes (~) please. -- MAG NE DETH 21:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to put that in the article name -from Pokemaster5000

when you joined the site, you got a talk page and at the top of it is a Welcome full of every piece of information you could ever want. i highly suggest you read this before creating any articles. -- MAG NE DETH 21:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

ok thanks -from Pokemaster5000 it tells me to redirect how do i do that? and please tell me if the MoS tells me that too. Pokemaster5000 21:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Pokemaster5000

Sorry

I have been using the preview button , the reason I have been editing my page so often is because i am a new user and wish too add templates as i find them(Also they're minor edits unless i forget to check the box)

one other question is, I have created a template (i liek shiny mudkipz), should i put this as a subpage such as User:Titan|Template:Shiny Mudkipz or where - unsigned comment from Titan (talk • contribs)

bearing in mind, a fancy userpage is far from mandatory around here. and even then, its possible to add everything in one edit. also, even minor edits count against your daily userspace edit count. the trick is to not just use, but abuse the preview button, and make normal mainspace edits to sort of drown your userspace edits. also, sign your comments with 4 tildes (~) so your signature will show. -- MAG NE DETH 19:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops sorry again

I've put the template here, is that right or am i asking the wrong person --TiT An 23:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Look,

I've been trying to keep the numbers down and I've been trying to combine large numbers of edits. The problem is that many times I try to fix a problem and when I look at the preview, its fine. But then sometime later I look at it and it isn't working again. --Swampert = awesome (bl eh) 13:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

well, thats not really an excuse. but if you can make some good edits, ill reduce the 30 days of abuse to 1 week. -- MAG NE DETH 18:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Max King as Abuse

Can you mark Max King as "abuse". You may have thought he was blocked, but no. Evkl unblocked him saying that "There are no universal bans". Max King doesn't do anything but edit his user page. So as long as he's here, can you mark him as abuse so he'll start doing something useful? --ケンジの ガール 20:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

id love to just as easily ban him myself, but i talked to evkl about this and abuse sounds like the best we do for now. ill take care of it. -- MAG NE DETH 20:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I haven't added anything to my page for a while, I think I just finished off the Kanto bit, and I am waiting to add more, but haven't found anywhere to edit yet so haven't added anymore. I was thinking of 3 mainspace edits for 1 User page edit. How does that sound? Max King 22:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

thats fine, make 30 edits this month, and ill let you make 10 userspace. -- MAG NE DETH 22:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Why in blocks of 30? I'm not on all that much, and there's not much to do, I could make 3 edits, maybe 6, and then get 1 or 2 user page edits? I just don't think i will ever be able to do 30 in a month? And why does it have to be in a month? If I did 25 in one month, then 5 in the next, would they carry over? Can't we deal in smaller denominations, instead of 30 MSE for 10 USE, why not just 3 MSE for 1 USE? Max King 22:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

That rule applies to everyone, not just you. Also, you edited your user page on August 18th. That isn't a while. That's less than a week. --ケンジの ガール 22:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Does it carry over, say i only did 20 this month, and then did 10 in September, would I get 10 USE? Max King 22:48, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The point mostly is to start editing the mainspace. No one is going to sit and look at your contributions, and then ban you for not "doing 30." That would be a waste of time spent on something useful, and bad adminship by singling out a single user. Just try your best to add to pages, and I'll make sure that no one blocks you again without a real good reason, kay? ^Maverick _Nate 01:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

If you could plz.

Tell me what the definition of sigexpand is. I've Looked and looked, and I have absolutely no idea what it is. Uncyclopedia {which does have sig expand defined} work's much differently then Bulba does. _Shiny Pika

its entirely possible our wiki doesnt support that command at all. ive attempted to use some span codes from other wikis with no success. as for actually coding the span into the system, i dont have the knowledge or access to do so. -- MAG NE DETH 05:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you give me something to do

Like a task or something? I can't find anything to do. Max King 12:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

in the words of Major Kusanagi - "The net is vast and infinite." -- MAG NE DETH 17:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Protect

Can you protect my userpage.Because, I don`t want a second other User to blank my page.The AURA Wolf 18:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

You do realize that if he protects it, you won't be able to edit it either, right?--Dark ICE (User:Cold)^{(page, talk)} 18:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

yea, that kid is in abuse now anyway, he cant edit anything userspace. -- MAG NE DETH 18:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok,Don`t do.I had to give it a second thought.The AURA Wolf 20:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sprite trivia

Since apparently about half of the sprite trivia we took out over the past two days counts as being acceptable trivia by your standards, where should we draw the line for what counts and what doesn't? If it mentions anything about the anime or manga we keep it? Because either way it's still sprite trivia. And one of the best examples is Charmander's page. I don't think that's so notable, since it's only in a single sprite. You said something that "documented" doesn't get removed. Documented, meaning? Which goes back to where we need to draw the line on what counts. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

that is a great question. basically the problem i had was that 100% of sprite trivia was deleted, and thats wrong. surely some of it is notable. and even so, its only trivia, it isnt hurting anyone. but that particular example is referenced in the Manga a few times, so yea, its from more than one media. for the most part, some color changes are negligible, but when a Pokemon has noticeable physical differences, then why not make a note of it? basically, Sketch said "delete it all" but he didnt check with anyone, and i didnt really like that. so yes, a lot was useless, but some of it is fine.so im going to scan it all in my free time to keep the good stuff. -- MAG NE DETH 03:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Because it's not the first time somebody's said to try to get rid of sprite trivia, and we didn't have anything to do at the time, so we started on that finally. R.A. Hunter Blade 01:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Some userspace edits

I made 6 edits yesterday, and under the ratio of 3-1 which we said, can I now please have 2 User Space edits. I need to make frequent updates, so I don't get lost or forget to add something in to my userpage, so may I please have my 2 edits now? Can I be taken off of abuse, you can trust me, I promise that I will only make a Userspace edit after 3 good mainspace edits. You can trust me, and if you don't feel like you can trust me, then you could monitor it, so I can prove that you can trust me?

Also, although I am owed 2 edits, I think I could add it all in just 1 edit. But that's because at the moment I only have 2 days to add, but it builds up and then i forget stuff. So may I please have my 2 edits now. Max King 12:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

He said after you make 30, you can have 10. --ケンジの ガール 17:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

But I will lose track of what I've done on my game :( Please, it;s the same ratio, please, show some compasion. 30-10=3-2=6-2, I've done 1/5 of the task, so can't I have 1/5 of the reward? Max King 19:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Write it down on Word or something... --ケンジの ガール 19:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

HEY!

Why do you hate the Pokémon anime? It's so cool! TOMMY-SAN (MyTalk) 22:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

to specify, i hate any anime that isnt the original series. May is a personality void, Max is annoying, and Dawn is both annoying and ridiculously stupid. add to that Ash being a technically horrible trainer. and they dont battle enough. too many contests these days. i want to see gym battles, not fancy bubbles. and finally, the voice change removed any shred of nostalgia the series held to that point, and it was all over. -- MAG NE DETH 04:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree but I find Dawn less anoying than May. Also Nobody but Ash has any good Pokémon. Random Chaos Was here ☃ 15:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Party Templates

So I noticed you've been changing some of the templates. How much is going to be permanently changed for the default templates? I'm asking so that I don't screw anything up for when I'm re-arranging everything. I'm going to change everything to make it more compact after I finish most of the Gen. III and some Gen. IV parties. Also, for the templates here, do any of the Gym Leaders' or Silver's templates need to be changed? I'm keeping those for when HGSS is out, and I want them to be right the first time they get put up. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

the style were implementing right now is the new norm, HOWEVER, dont start doing them just yet, its like a "beta release" right now and TTE will soon be installing the show/hide ability. after that itll be the new standard. -- MAG NE DETH 02:14, 4 September 2009

Okay. I'll keep doing what I've been doing, and then eventually update everything when I'm done. Unless somebody beats me to it, but then I'd be out of things that I can actually do. R.A. Hunter Blade 03:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

nonsense, theres always something to do, like these templates, i think its safe to start doing them. -- MAG NE DETH 03:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I meant things that I know how to do and that I can actually find info on, but whatever. Any idea when TTE'll be done with the updates? R.A. Hunter Blade 20:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

well, as previously stated, theyre safe to use now, you can start doing them. -- MAG NE DETH 20:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Alright. I'll have to mess around with them a little to get used to it. I'll start doing it like that when I go through templates. R.A. Hunter Blade 20:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

these are much easier than the old ones, so just copy and paste one onto a section, mess with it, and yull see how it all works. -- MAG NE DETH 20:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I noticed. I was getting annoyed by the different codings for PartyBody22 and PartyBody23. The coding for some of the things were messed up and some things were the opposite... R.A. Hunter Blade 20:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

hmmm, idk, no one else has had much of a problem. -- MAG NE DETH 20:56, 4 September 2009

Some numbers went a certain way, others went another... anyways, the 22 and 23 were just the style of party body. The first number is how many rows (top and bottom) of Pokémon, so if it's 3 or under the number is a 1, if it's 4 or more, then it's a 2. You probably already know, so I don't have to explain it. It might have also just been that I expected certain things to be ordered one way but they weren't. It doesn't really matter though. I learned to deal with it. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

yea, instead of having 4 Pokemon be 3 across one below, its 2x2. and 5 is 3x2 with the bottom 2 Olympic rings style. -- MAG NE DETH 21:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Yep. I'm trying it out with Tabitha's page right now, unless we don't have a light or dark fire color. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

we have a light and dark of every color, so dont worry about it. in fact, if you encounter one that doesnt exist, inform someone. -- MAG NE DETH 21:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh crap. Where are the genders? Don't we need those? Or are they not important any more? R.A. Hunter Blade 21:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

just put "gender=male/female" and for Pokemon that have different gender sprites, add "gendersprite=male/female" after it. for Pokemon with no gender, add nothing. -- MAG NE DETH 21:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... alright. The reason I'm spazzing is because I'm using Janine's "last changes" thing to figure out what to change, and genders weren't added to her new template. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:15, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

hmm, i did Janine, so prob a mistake on my part. -- MAG NE DETH 21:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. As for items, I'm guessing I just put item=berry/other, right? R.A. Hunter Blade 21:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

simply put "held=Sitrus Berry" or "held=Scope Lens" for examples. no linking required. -- MAG NE DETH 21:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay. That'll be easier than all of the sprite1=, type1=2, type12=Dark, type22=Water.... I think it was the types that annoyed me the most. The thing I was talking about earlier was the 12 and 22. I expected the 2 to always be first, because that's what number in line the Pokémon is, and then expected the type 1 and 2 to be second. It just seemed simpler. That's my opinion though, so nobody else really had trouble with it. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:24, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

i hated it too, thats why i really like this new design. and we can use the internal Pokemon template separately to make individual Pokemon two. so we accidentally/purposely create two templates at once. -- MAG NE DETH 21:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice. This'll still take a while to get used to doing, but oh well. All I was really doing for the re-arranging was making it slightly easier to edit if they needed to be. That's why I broke everything up so that it was like:

sprite
Pokémon
gender
level
number of types
types
ability
item

And so on. I did that so the already confusing coding could be easily navigated instead of having it all mashed together. Really the only stuff I haven't touched is Blue's page because it's already so freaking huge. For ability I assume I just put ability=Intimidate. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

right. just look at the ones i did on other pages. ive organized mine to make more sense when editing. i did Lt. Surge which containes 3 generations, and then see Volkner for Gen IV. -- MAG NE DETH 21:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I'll ask if I have any more questions other than this last one: for templates that have Shadow Pokémon, such as the Miror B. ones I had started a little, how do we say they're Shadow? Just a note at the bottom like Cold changed it to, or how it used to be like Lovrina still has? R.A. Hunter Blade 21:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

probably the one parameter i havnt messed with, so i dont know. -- MAG NE DETH 21:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Ehhhh, I think after finishing the first party for Tabitha, I'll mess with it. I probably won't actually change anything yet, but still. It's good to try. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Side game

{{Side game}} See talk page please. Many questions not answered... especially the first one... ^ht 14 19:40, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

i dont really do side games, so idk. -- MAG NE DETH 19:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It's fine, I'm just worried about curved edges... ^ht 14 19:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

oh that, well, ask TTE. -- MAG NE DETH 19:50, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Alright... I just don't want to bother him... ^ht 14 19:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

well, im telling you to bother him. -- MAG NE DETH 19:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

K. XD ^ht 14 19:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

The final thing then is to try to fix up {{HeldItems}} regarding the Frontier parser which I recently added. The star (*) isn't working out for me, since I have to add it to re1, rse1, and se1... is this something you could help me with? ^ht 14 19:58, 8 September 2009

hmmm, id suggest TTE again. -- MAG NE DETH 19:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

2 things

Route 47 is confirmed by Serebii (near Safari Zone). Second, Serebii also confirmed HM05 as Whirlpool (well duh...Whirl Islands). We need a new parser for that then... ^ht 14 02:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

im not concerned about "if" its confirmed, because i know it is, but we cant have an article stating "its in the game" i we want actual details. the page is only protected from new users, so if you want to have at it, go for it. as for Whirlpool, well find a way to deal with it. -- MAG NE DETH 02:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah... I'll leave it alone for now. I still don't have the game yet, and I'll just wait for Serebii to give out more info. ^ht 14 02:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you're wrong. Route 47 (no, I don't use redlink here) cannot be created, it says this: "This title has been protected from creation by TTEchidna. The reason given is "I should be there by then..."." UltimateSephiroth ^{(about me · chat · edits)} 18:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

then i guess TTE re-protected it. i protected it yesterday from new users. -- MAG NE DETH 18:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Johto Dex

Serebii just finished with the Johto Dex listing and I posted the link and specific details on the Johto Dex talk page so take a look when you have a minute. -Tyler53841 18:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

ill check it out now. -- MAG NE DETH 18:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and I also think that the trivia piece on that page needs to be changed or removed since it looks like the same ol'Johto dex, just with a minor upgrade with Generation IV Pokémon after reading over it again. -Tyler53841 18:35, 11 September 2009

ill look into it. hell, after i finish fixing it up there wont be any reason to keep it protected anymore really. -- MAG NE DETH 18:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for you help and just so you know I fully support your decision to keep that page protected a little longer due to the rush. I'm sure you'll be able to update the New Pokédex page as well, but anyway this is the last I will say on this subject. -Tyler53841 19:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

well i dont really have the time to get to the other Pokedex right now, but maybe later, anyone can do that one, its not protected. -- MAG NE DETH 19:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Right, I did that and the only thing I did was a minor update and removed information that looked off-topic to me, but may have some potential as a trivia piece elsewhere. Also when you get a chance the infobox for the Generation II Elite Four needs an overhaul. -Tyler53841 20:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)