Talk:Generation V

REMEMBER, THE BULBAGARDEN FORUMS HAVE A GENERATION V FORUM NOW. NO SPECULATION HERE PLEASE.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT CONFIRMED STUFF ONLY. TTEchidna 00:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Any References?

With the impending release of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. The Jigglypuff Ninja 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -Sketch 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

And I highly doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. 梅子^❄_❅ 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--Purimpopoie 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... TTEchidna 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--Purimpopoie 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? TTEchidna 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Jumping the Gun a bit?

Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?SLE_aman 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -Sketch 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My 2¢: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --Shiningpikablu252 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --User:Camzoman

Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --Shiningpikablu252 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The Corocoro site doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ 梅子^❄_❅ 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. Just look at the information we have. It's obviously Generation V. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--User:Crazylegs24

Why is this page protected?

Why is this page protected? --Any Questions????? 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Think about it.--Midnight Blue 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

*cough*Speculation*cough* CuboneKing 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--Mtn otter We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? TTEchidna 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--Mtn otter We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

...same thing? TTEchidna 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Arguable.--Mtn otter We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. Kidburla 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--Clarky13 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone?

I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a temporary infobox to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until Pokémon V comes out later this year. I also created a user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon that uses a non-categorizing version of this template.

Thanks to PsychicRider for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox. Quagbert 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Masamitsu Hidaka

Should Masamitsu Hidaka be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --HoennMaster 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Unlink

Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. R.A. Hunter Blade 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

This just in!

Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --Dialgafan1 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--Skaisdead 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem* Chosen of Mana - 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's the picture! --Dialgafan1 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for?

Anyway, I already have Zorua and Zoroark in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. Quagbert 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. Quagbert 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Related Pokémon

On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --Herachu 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree. --i herd u liek Treakos? 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) Kimori-Hinoarashi

New Pokémon template

Based partly on the {{DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a new Pokémon template to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:

{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|
typen= (number of types) |
type1= (first type) |
type2= (second type) |
pron= (name's pronunciation) |
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")
image= (filename of image) |
caption= (caption for said image) |
height-m= (height in meters) |
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |
prevnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |
}}

Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. Quagbert 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)