Talk:Genesect (Pokémon)
Can this be removed?
I can't stress this enough Just because somthing looks simmilar to somthing else does not say anything about it's origin. Can the part about the Napalm man be removed? It is speculation and therfore does not belong in the origin section, unless there is evidence to support it (If some is found please tell me what it is). --EpicShadow 00:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Last of National Dex Trivia
I noticed this and thought it would be good trivia:
- "Genesect is the only Pokémon that was at one point the final Pokémon in the National Dex that could not be a Psychic-type."
Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, and Arceus holding a Mind Plate for the record. Also, Dennis. Yurtablemoron 11:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Genesect: Mewtwo of Gen V
I got a lot of hunches on this pokemon being artificially created by Team Plasma. There are some reasons why: First, both are being developed as the most strongest pokemon created by science. Second, they originated from the remains of a extinct pokemon (Mewtwo originated from a fossilized hair of Mew and Genesect originated from a bug-like fossil). Third, both villainous group shares the same goal on making them the strongest pokemon ever created to rule the world. And fourth, both of them escaped for unknown reasons in the games. But I know there are more to this relation, somehow.... Duo2nd 02:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Uh like what? Lots of Gen V Pokémon have similarities. Doesn't mean they're related. Also, Mewtwo being created by Team Rocket isn't confirmed to be canon in the games. —♥ Jellotalk 02:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's not confirmed because it isn't true. Mr. Fuji and Blaine weren't a part of TR in the games Ataro 02:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Origin of Genesect?
Maybe it's a plural/singular grammatical issue, but the article says that
"Genesect may be generally based on the giant insects of the Paleozoic era, although its Steel-type features give it a somewhat robotic appearance. It has existed for 300 million years, making it as old as the cockroach."
Does "it" refer to "giant insects" or does it refer to Genesect, for if it refers to Genesect, than it's wrong right? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 02:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- What are you suggesting is wrong? Genesect has existed for 300 million years, it says so in its Black dex entry (which I haven't gotten around to translating and adding yet). I'm not quite sure if that really fits in its origin section, though... 梅子❀✿ 18:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm... so what it's saying is that it's had a gun (albeit less powerful) from over 300 million years ago? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 18:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Is Genesect actualy robotic or part robotic? This may very easily be irelevent to the outcome of it's origin, but it reminds me of Atlatian technology. It was believed that the technology of Atlantis could be used to creat powerful Vehicles, wepons and atomatons. It also says in the Pokédex that it was reconstructed suggesting it was created by someone other than team plasma (althogh I don't know who). --EpicShadow 19:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- part robotic Ataro 20:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Is Genesect actualy robotic or part robotic? This may very easily be irelevent to the outcome of it's origin, but it reminds me of Atlatian technology. It was believed that the technology of Atlantis could be used to creat powerful Vehicles, wepons and atomatons. It also says in the Pokédex that it was reconstructed suggesting it was created by someone other than team plasma (althogh I don't know who). --EpicShadow 19:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm... so what it's saying is that it's had a gun (albeit less powerful) from over 300 million years ago? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 18:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Could the "others" be the pigmask army form MOTHER 3? They took normal creatures and turned them into cyborgs also knows as chimeras, possibly a reference to Mother 3? could you add this it the trivia section? Ghost chimera 08:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera
- what does Mother 3 have to do with this? Lot's of series do this...sonic the hedgehog for example Ataro 08:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The people who worked on MOTHER 3 also worked on Pokemon, this is why Mewtwo looks like Giygas. Ghost chimera 22:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera
Romanization
Isn't the Katakana pronounced Genosect (Genosekuto), not Genesect? ----Sparen (talk) 22:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- From what I understand, Genesect's the name that's been officially trademarked.--Cold (talk) 22:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- This should be brought up again as it has not been trademarked Genesect, at least as far as the information available online on the official JP trademark database. Unless someone has a source it should be changed. Pokejungle 06:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Artwork?
I was wondering - what will be done for artwork section of the event legendary Pokémon until their official Ken Sugimori art is released? I remember Arceus had fan art until its Sugimori art is revealed, so will Kerudio, Meloetta, and Genesect follow the same route? I'd be happy to provide Sugimori-style artwork for them if that ends up being the case. I know this is probably jumping the gun quite a bit, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Xous 22:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Most likely we will get Dream World art. --SnorlaxMonster 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, I doubt Dream World art will be released before Genesect itself is (what purpose would it have, besides appearing to condone hacking?). And Sugimori art will likely be released at the same time. --AndyPKMN 22:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, for some reason I completely forgot about Dream World art at the time I was writing that. If it doesn't get Dream World art before its Sugimori art is released, though, I'll still be glad to provide art for it and the other event Legendary Pokémon. Xous 17:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- At the moment at least, Dream World art looks very unlikely, as all of the site's Pokemon listings drop off after #646. There's nothing stopping it being added in an upgrade, but that probably won't be until the official release, which would bring Sugimori Art too. Bluesun 17:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, for some reason I completely forgot about Dream World art at the time I was writing that. If it doesn't get Dream World art before its Sugimori art is released, though, I'll still be glad to provide art for it and the other event Legendary Pokémon. Xous 17:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, I doubt Dream World art will be released before Genesect itself is (what purpose would it have, besides appearing to condone hacking?). And Sugimori art will likely be released at the same time. --AndyPKMN 22:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I've seen Sugimori's official art, but It's JPEG, Low quality, little dimensions and isn't all that good. There's no good images of Genesect you can find right now. - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 15:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC) Nevermind, it wasn't actually Sugimori artwork. Probably Fan art. - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 20:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
- The piece I offer to use in this article is [this one]. I'd be able to crop it down to the non-shining version and remove my watermarks should it be found acceptable. (I can also supply a full-size version if necessary.) And, as I mentioned earlier, I could supply artwork for the two formes of Meloetta and artwork for Keldeo to serve as placeholders until their official art is revealed. Xous 03:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Trade?
In the obtaining section of the page, it says Genesect is only available by trading. What does this mean?—♫Zekasaur♫ 11:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's default for unobtainable Pokémon, it should be changed.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 11:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Dennis
I heard almost everyone at YouTUBE giving Genosect the nickname Dennis due to the confusion caused with Geechisu's battle music. Prior to the reveal it was Geechisu's theme instead of Genesect's theme everybody called it Dennis due to the chorus in the track. Not sure if alot of people still refer to him as such now but could we atleast mention it since Tsutarja's page mentioned Smugleaf? Shiramu Kuromu 00:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- It's not even that popular, so no. It's only notable for Smugleaf because the popular video game blog site, Kotaku, made it. - 050294 04:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, Smugleaf is notable because it was mentioned in an official Nintendo magazine, not because it was made by a popular site. Werdnae (talk) 04:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Hm, that was in the UK Nintendo magazine too, so I guess it was in two magazines. Bluesun 16:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, Smugleaf is notable because it was mentioned in an official Nintendo magazine, not because it was made by a popular site. Werdnae (talk) 04:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Really?
"Genesect is currently the only Pokémon which names a villainous team in its Pokédex entry." The game isn't even out in English, and this is in the article? The pokedex entry doesn't have any English words (obviously, but I wanted to make sure anyway) Are we going by some translation that could potentially be wrong? Or was this ACTUALLY mentioned somewhere? In A Manica 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm... not sure whether to withdraw this or not. There's a supposedly correct translation when the mouse is hovered over the pokedex entry, but I'd at least like to know where it came from because I doubt it's correct. In A Manica 03:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- It came from Umeko who is a Japanese speaker. She has gone through and translated just about every Pokédex entry that is on Bulbapedia. They're the Japanese entries that are placeholders until the English games come out. --P S Yライダー☮ 03:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- oh ok thank you for telling me. I was confused when I first saw that bit of trivia. In A Manica 03:45, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- It came from Umeko who is a Japanese speaker. She has gone through and translated just about every Pokédex entry that is on Bulbapedia. They're the Japanese entries that are placeholders until the English games come out. --P S Yライダー☮ 03:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Evolution?
Why are the 5 different images of Genesect shown in the evolution? The cassettes only affect ONE move and a coloring of ONE detail, nothing else. It's no major forme change and is far less impressive than Arceus's formes, doesn't change stats, type or anything like others like Meloetta for instance. I don't think it should be considered to evolve. --—Ve№moth ♦ 01:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- It isn't evolution, it's forme change, first of all. Second, Genesect's different formes' sprites are needed just as much as Gender differences are. Gender differences don't effect type, moves, stats, or anything! It's just a "small" difference in appearence, but its still used because it makes the article more complete showing what the different genders look like. Just like how showing Genesect's different formes make the page more complete by showing what it looks like when holding specific items. --Landfish7 02:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I know the differences between forme, evolution and gender and this is not really making much sense. Look at Arceus, Its coloring changes but so does Its type when it holds its objects that give it that forme change - Similar to Genesect's cassettes, but a bigger change. Secondly, everyone came after me when I did this, a very obvious, but according to all the other users who ganged up on me, unimportant difference, as was also pointed out to me with this one. Genesect is somewhere between these two cases, but mostly, if Arceus is not considered evolved through its forme changes, Genesect definitely shouldn't be either. --—Ve№moth ♦ 02:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think the only reason Arceus doesn't do it is because of how ludicrously big it would be. --SnorlaxMonster 13:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- The thing is that there is a distinction between Forme differences and gender differences. Other than gender differences, however, every Pokémon with different forms should have the appropriate special displays on their page (even those, such as Genesect, where the minimal difference only lends itself to a larger evobox.)--MisterE13 01:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- On a somewhat related note, I don't quite like how the form evoboxes are set up. Using Genesect's as an example, it is linear, so it says that only certain forms can change to other ones, which is not true. Genesect holding any kind of cassette (or none at all) can then switch items to any other (or discard it). The evobox should be a big circle with arrows going between all possible combinations. --SnorlaxMonster 01:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- Might be easier to not use any arrows at all. Two-way arrows or simple lines could seem messy if we can instead figure out a placement that doesn't lend itself to strict ordering. How about 3 above and 2 below, or 2 above and 3 below? Or 2, 2, 1, with no Cassette as the odd one out? Or if that circle is really on the table, just place them in it unconnected. But other than that, I definitely see the merit in toticombinatory arrows. PLA 17:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- On a somewhat related note, I don't quite like how the form evoboxes are set up. Using Genesect's as an example, it is linear, so it says that only certain forms can change to other ones, which is not true. Genesect holding any kind of cassette (or none at all) can then switch items to any other (or discard it). The evobox should be a big circle with arrows going between all possible combinations. --SnorlaxMonster 01:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- The thing is that there is a distinction between Forme differences and gender differences. Other than gender differences, however, every Pokémon with different forms should have the appropriate special displays on their page (even those, such as Genesect, where the minimal difference only lends itself to a larger evobox.)--MisterE13 01:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think the only reason Arceus doesn't do it is because of how ludicrously big it would be. --SnorlaxMonster 13:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I know the differences between forme, evolution and gender and this is not really making much sense. Look at Arceus, Its coloring changes but so does Its type when it holds its objects that give it that forme change - Similar to Genesect's cassettes, but a bigger change. Secondly, everyone came after me when I did this, a very obvious, but according to all the other users who ganged up on me, unimportant difference, as was also pointed out to me with this one. Genesect is somewhere between these two cases, but mostly, if Arceus is not considered evolved through its forme changes, Genesect definitely shouldn't be either. --—Ve№moth ♦ 02:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Worth Noting?
Should it be written that Genesect is the third man made Pokemon after Porygon and Mewtwo. I count Porygon as one since its two evolved forms are simply upgraded versions of it. Frozen Fennec 18:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Artificial Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 01:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
