Talk:Genesect (Pokémon)

Can this be removed?

I can't stress this enough Just because somthing looks simmilar to somthing else does not say anything about it's origin. Can the part about the Napalm man be removed? It is speculation and therfore does not belong in the origin section, unless there is evidence to support it (If some is found please tell me what it is). --EpicShadow 00:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Last of National Dex Trivia

I noticed this and thought it would be good trivia:

• "Genesect is the only Pokémon that was at one point the final Pokémon in the National Dex that could not be a Psychic-type."

Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, and Arceus holding a Mind Plate for the record. Also, Dennis. Yurtablemoron 11:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Genesect: Mewtwo of Gen V

I got a lot of hunches on this pokemon being artificially created by Team Plasma. There are some reasons why: First, both are being developed as the most strongest pokemon created by science. Second, they originated from the remains of a extinct pokemon (Mewtwo originated from a fossilized hair of Mew and Genesect originated from a bug-like fossil). Third, both villainous group shares the same goal on making them the strongest pokemon ever created to rule the world. And fourth, both of them escaped for unknown reasons in the games. But I know there are more to this relation, somehow.... Duo2nd 02:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Uh like what? Lots of Gen V Pokémon have similarities. Doesn't mean they're related. Also, Mewtwo being created by Team Rocket isn't confirmed to be canon in the games. —♥ Jello^talk 02:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

It's not confirmed because it isn't true. Mr. Fuji and Blaine weren't a part of TR in the games Ataro 02:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Note that the Pokédex entry says RE-constructed meaning that it probably wasn't created by team plasma in the first place, probably created by some anciant race or the monarchy. Still it is unlikely that it has any relation to any of the other Pokémon. --EpicShadow 04:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Origin of Genesect?

Maybe it's a plural/singular grammatical issue, but the article says that

"Genesect may be generally based on the giant insects of the Paleozoic era, although its Steel-type features give it a somewhat robotic appearance. It has existed for 300 million years, making it as old as the cockroach."

Does "it" refer to "giant insects" or does it refer to Genesect, for if it refers to Genesect, than it's wrong right? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 02:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

What are you suggesting is wrong? Genesect has existed for 300 million years, it says so in its Black dex entry (which I haven't gotten around to translating and adding yet). I'm not quite sure if that really fits in its origin section, though... 梅子^❀_✿ 18:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... so what it's saying is that it's had a gun (albeit less powerful) from over 300 million years ago? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 18:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Is Genesect actualy robotic or part robotic? This may very easily be irelevent to the outcome of it's origin, but it reminds me of Atlatian technology. It was believed that the technology of Atlantis could be used to creat powerful Vehicles, wepons and atomatons. It also says in the Pokédex that it was reconstructed suggesting it was created by someone other than team plasma (althogh I don't know who). --EpicShadow 19:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

part robotic Ataro 20:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Could the "others" be the pigmask army form MOTHER 3? They took normal creatures and turned them into cyborgs also knows as chimeras, possibly a reference to Mother 3? could you add this it the trivia section? Ghost chimera 08:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera

what does Mother 3 have to do with this? Lot's of series do this...sonic the hedgehog for example Ataro 08:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

The people who worked on MOTHER 3 also worked on Pokemon, this is why Mewtwo looks like Giygas. Ghost chimera 22:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera

Romanization

Isn't the Katakana pronounced Genosect (Genosekuto), not Genesect? ----Sparen (talk) 22:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

From what I understand, Genesect's the name that's been officially trademarked.--Cold (talk) 22:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

This should be brought up again as it has not been trademarked Genesect, at least as far as the information available online on the official JP trademark database. Unless someone has a source it should be changed. Pokejungle 06:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Genesect.com, Keldeo.com, Tsutarja.com, mijumaru.com, pokabu.com. All parked by the same company. Can you drop the romanization issue now? —♥ Jello^talk 06:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Artwork?

I was wondering - what will be done for artwork section of the event legendary Pokémon until their official Ken Sugimori art is released? I remember Arceus had fan art until its Sugimori art is revealed, so will Kerudio, Meloetta, and Genesect follow the same route? I'd be happy to provide Sugimori-style artwork for them if that ends up being the case. I know this is probably jumping the gun quite a bit, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Xous 22:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Most likely we will get Dream World art. --SnorlaxMonster 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I doubt Dream World art will be released before Genesect itself is (what purpose would it have, besides appearing to condone hacking?). And Sugimori art will likely be released at the same time. --Andy^P_K^M_N 22:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, for some reason I completely forgot about Dream World art at the time I was writing that. If it doesn't get Dream World art before its Sugimori art is released, though, I'll still be glad to provide art for it and the other event Legendary Pokémon. Xous 17:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

At the moment at least, Dream World art looks very unlikely, as all of the site's Pokemon listings drop off after #646. There's nothing stopping it being added in an upgrade, but that probably won't be until the official release, which would bring Sugimori Art too. Bluesun 17:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I've seen Sugimori's official art, but It's JPEG, Low quality, little dimensions and isn't all that good. There's no good images of Genesect you can find right now. - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 15:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC) Nevermind, it wasn't actually Sugimori artwork. Probably Fan art. - PikaThunder • PT's Talk - 20:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The piece I offer to use in this article is [this one]. I'd be able to remove my watermarks should it be found acceptable. (I can also supply a full-size version if necessary.) And, as I mentioned earlier, I could supply artwork for the two formes of Meloetta and artwork for Keldeo to serve as placeholders until their official art is revealed. Xous 03:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Didn't we use fanmade sprites for Zorua and Zoroark once? I mean, we could simply put up that "THIS SPRITE IS FAKE" tag again if we use fanart for these three.... Doesn't that seem like an idea? Shiramu Kuromu 16:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if there's been a policy change regarding using fan art as placeholders, but in the case of Arceus there was simply a tiny line of text below the image stating "Fan Artwork of Arceus" or something to that effect. I would upload the artwork to the articles myself, but I don't want to break any rules or overstep my bounds, and I really don't know how I'd go about adding the artwork (and I don't want to risk messing up the pages). Xous 02:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I can give you some very well-made fan art from Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect, if you want ! --Wolfy 10:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Trade?

In the obtaining section of the page, it says Genesect is only available by trading. What does this mean?—♫Zekasaur♫ 11:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

It's default for unobtainable Pokémon, it should be changed.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 11:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. For Pokémon with no in-game location, it should just say trade. Events don't count unless they give access to an in-game location. --SnorlaxMonster 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Dennis

I heard almost everyone at YouTUBE giving Genosect the nickname Dennis due to the confusion caused with Geechisu's battle music. Prior to the reveal it was Geechisu's theme instead of Genesect's theme everybody called it Dennis due to the chorus in the track. Not sure if alot of people still refer to him as such now but could we atleast mention it since Tsutarja's page mentioned Smugleaf? Shiramu Kuromu 00:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It's not even that popular, so no. It's only notable for Smugleaf because the popular video game blog site, Kotaku, made it. - 050294 04:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Smugleaf is notable because it was mentioned in an official Nintendo magazine, not because it was made by a popular site. Werdnae (talk) 04:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Hm, that was in the UK Nintendo magazine too, so I guess it was in two magazines. Bluesun 16:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Really?

"Genesect is currently the only Pokémon which names a villainous team in its Pokédex entry." The game isn't even out in English, and this is in the article? The pokedex entry doesn't have any English words (obviously, but I wanted to make sure anyway) Are we going by some translation that could potentially be wrong? Or was this ACTUALLY mentioned somewhere? In A Manica 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... not sure whether to withdraw this or not. There's a supposedly correct translation when the mouse is hovered over the pokedex entry, but I'd at least like to know where it came from because I doubt it's correct. In A Manica 03:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

It came from Umeko who is a Japanese speaker. She has gone through and translated just about every Pokédex entry that is on Bulbapedia. They're the Japanese entries that are placeholders until the English games come out. --P S Y_ライダー☮ 03:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

oh ok thank you for telling me. I was confused when I first saw that bit of trivia. In A Manica 03:45, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Evolution?

Why are the 5 different images of Genesect shown in the evolution? The cassettes only affect ONE move and a coloring of ONE detail, nothing else. It's no major forme change and is far less impressive than Arceus's formes, doesn't change stats, type or anything like others like Meloetta for instance. I don't think it should be considered to evolve. --—Ve№moth ♦ 01:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

It isn't evolution, it's forme change, first of all. Second, Genesect's different formes' sprites are needed just as much as Gender differences are. Gender differences don't effect type, moves, stats, or anything! It's just a "small" difference in appearence, but its still used because it makes the article more complete showing what the different genders look like. Just like how showing Genesect's different formes make the page more complete by showing what it looks like when holding specific items. --Landfish7 02:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know the differences between forme, evolution and gender and this is not really making much sense. Look at Arceus, Its coloring changes but so does Its type when it holds its objects that give it that forme change - Similar to Genesect's cassettes, but a bigger change. Secondly, everyone came after me when I did this, a very obvious, but according to all the other users who ganged up on me, unimportant difference, as was also pointed out to me with this one. Genesect is somewhere between these two cases, but mostly, if Arceus is not considered evolved through its forme changes, Genesect definitely shouldn't be either. --—Ve№moth ♦ 02:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I think the only reason Arceus doesn't do it is because of how ludicrously big it would be. --SnorlaxMonster 13:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

The thing is that there is a distinction between Forme differences and gender differences. Other than gender differences, however, every Pokémon with different forms should have the appropriate special displays on their page (even those, such as Genesect, where the minimal difference only lends itself to a larger evobox.)--MisterE13 01:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

On a somewhat related note, I don't quite like how the form evoboxes are set up. Using Genesect's as an example, it is linear, so it says that only certain forms can change to other ones, which is not true. Genesect holding any kind of cassette (or none at all) can then switch items to any other (or discard it). The evobox should be a big circle with arrows going between all possible combinations. --SnorlaxMonster 01:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Might be easier to not use any arrows at all. Two-way arrows or simple lines could seem messy if we can instead figure out a placement that doesn't lend itself to strict ordering. How about 3 above and 2 below, or 2 above and 3 below? Or 2, 2, 1, with no Cassette as the odd one out? Or if that circle is really on the table, just place them in it unconnected. But other than that, I definitely see the merit in toticombinatory arrows. PLA 17:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Worth Noting?

Should it be written that Genesect is the third man made Pokemon after Porygon and Mewtwo. I count Porygon as one since its two evolved forms are simply upgraded versions of it. Frozen Fennec 18:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Artificial Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 01:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Forme Change

Genesect's Evolution section makes it as if, for example, that Genesect must first equip the Lightning Cassette before equipping the Blaze Cassette which simply isn't the case. Is there a way to do this to make it so its clear that all the formes are interchangeable? --Landfish7 18:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Unable to see image

i am unable to see the images for genesect, keldeo, and meloetta. All there i see is a link of some sort. Can anybody please clarify why i am unable to see these images? Karnik555 00:00, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Because it has not been uploaded and they don't exist. So, we can't really upload one now can we? —♥ Jello^talk 00:01, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Genesis?

Genesect does not have an official pronunciation as of yet; it could be jenna-sect for all we know. I was wondering if the "Gene" prefix could refer to genesis, in one instance meaning the beginning of something. The games say Genesect has existed for quite a long time, so could this be a name origin?-- Swagmander 04:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

A long time =/= beginning. It is isn't as unlikely and the option below, but it most likely refers to gene/genetics/a similar term. I am not going to completely oppose it being added, but I do think it shouldn't be there. --SnorlaxMonster 10:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Genocide?

Could the name come from the term 'genocide'? - unsigned comment from Fencingwolf13 (talk • contribs)

Possibly, due to its large cannon, and that it was apparently the most feared hunter in its time. There have been much less likely name origin theories, so it should be added. XVuvuzela2010X 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

The fact that it was specifically romanized "Genesect" makes me doubt that. It was genetically engineered, so it almost certainly comes from gene/genetics/a similar term. And situations where . --SnorlaxMonster 10:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

It should be noted that Japan does not have a romanised word for Genocide starting with ゲノ. Genocide is romanized as ジェノサイド (JEnosaido.) What the Geno part in its name refers to is actually Genome (ゲノム/Ge-no-mu, and that's Geh, not Jee)... Which is why I think the English name is utterly ridiculous because it never was referring to Genocide in the slightest. Design be damned. I'd personally prefer it if people removed the thing about Genocide in the name details, since it's never referred to that at all. Common sense and language knowledge here, people. Callyne4 23:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request

Why is this page protected? Basically, I was going to modify two pieces of trivia, to look like this:

• Genesect is the only Bug-type legendary Pokémon, excluding Arceus holding the Insect Plate.

• Despite it being its signature move, Genesect cannot receive STAB from Techno Buster.

XVuvuzela2010X 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

The page should only be protected to new users. Any user that is autoconfirmed (which you are) should be able to edit it. This was done to all the Pokémon pages as too many new users were adding names which have not been officially released. Werdnae (talk) 04:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I now know whats happnened, I've seen the locked banner and automatically assumed that I was unable to edit it, lol. XVuvuzela2010X 12:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sprites

It would be a good idea to make a little template that only shows one form of Genesect at a time (ie, normal, holding blaze cassette, holding aqua cassette, etc) like Arceus's one? I've had this idea because the only difference are some color details and techno buster's type. --EzekielMaple 15:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Arceus's one only does that because it has so many sprites. It is much better this way. --SnorlaxMonster 15:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, why is its normal front Chill Drive Sprite brighter than the muted colors of the rest of the front spires and ALL back sprites? Someone's error or real in-game discoloration? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 11:56, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I checked by opening the Chill Drive sprite and another sprite in two tabs, and switching between them, yet I see absolutly no change, other than the intended drive color swap. And neither sprite had been uploaded over. --SnorlaxMonster 15:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Genesect

Has somone hacked the game to find out Genesect, Keldeo and Melloetta are in fact the english names, or are thay still unconfirmed? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 19:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Of course many people have hacked them. For example, Youtube is full of Genesect videos.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 19:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I kinda feel stupid now -_- but thanks Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 19:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Event

I know this is a stupid question and I probably shouldn't ask it but I'm getting impatient. When will the Genesect event launch? They're launching all the other events but not Genesect, Meloetta and Keldeo. Why is that? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Pokedex493 21:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Event Pokémon are usually revealed with movies. Plus, the games are still relatively new. They'll be revealed in time. --P S Y_ライダー☮ 21:14, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Alright. I guess I'll just have to wait. I'm just really wanting Genesect. That's why I asked. Pokedex493 21:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

The bullets in the first paragraph

Wouldn't they seem more appropriate under physiology? They seem sort of... out of place, especially right at the top of the page like that. Sidnoea 07:06, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I was just thinking the same thing. Consensus? - poikins 23:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Photon Blaster?

"It has a powerful cannon (named in the Techno Blast move as Photon Blaster)" I went to the page for Techno Blast, and nothing of the sort is mentioned. Where does this come from? Crystal Talian 05:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Before the English version came out, we used the Japanese move description (see here). We translated this as "The user aims and fires at the opponent with Photon Blaster. The type of the move changes depending on the held Cassette." This is in fact wrong, and the Japanese says almost exactly what the English move description does (except "light bullet" instead of "beam of light"). How somebody got Photon Blaster out of it I have no idea. Regardless, it is wrong, so I have removed it from the page. --SnorlaxMonster 06:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Type Effectiveness

It appears that the type effectiveness chart is misaligned, not only on Genesect, but on all Bug/Steel types. Is there a way to fix that, as of yet?--GregtehCollector 19:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

On most type effectiveness charts, it's mostly misaligned, I'm not sure how to fix this at all, but I'm sure people are noticing it.Chocos0 05:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Misaligned how? The text at the top is supposed to be indented. Werdnae (talk) 02:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Under Resistance against the Grass box is split in half and appears in the second column. --Spriteit 02:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, that issue. It's a known problem with the way Chrome (and other browsers that use the same code base) treats the wrapping css. The only thing we can do to fix it is rebuild the entire template without using it, which. . . is going to take time. We're talking full redesign, not just a simple code substitution. Werdnae (talk) 02:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

How do we know?

How do we know all of Genesect's moves? Also, how do we even know that it's real? Is it in the coding? Or did they reveal it subtly? Pringles 21:55, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

It's coded into the game. It can be obtained via hacking and it has its moves via that too. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 22:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Just to be sure before adding something.

I wanted to add this:

Also does it look like Genesect's head has the same shape as the (hollow) 'standard' of its cannon. Making it look like its head could kinda 'click' on the 'standard'. And also seems the hollow standard to be big enough to contain the rest of its body, giving Genesect's design the concept of 'Transformers'.

in the Physiology or Origin. But I'm not sure about copyright, so could anybody tell me if it's right or not? Nickvang 15:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

It's mostly correct. The turret doesn't really fit its head, but the trailer shows its legs retracting and the body fitting into that hollow section to turn into a hover tank. So yeah, this looks like Game Freak's attempt to homage the Insecticons. --KingStarscream (talk) 16:34, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Great, I knew those legs were meant to fit into the hollow part underneath the cannon. But let's wait until we see more of the movie before adding something. Nickvang (talk) 19:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

What kind of Modifications did they Do to this pokemon!?

Genesect's head is Clearly a Beat Box of some kind, it takes music cassettes in to change the type of the attack "Techno Blast", but there's no reference to this anywhere on the page. Is it worth a notation of some sort? Or is it wiser to wait for more validiation, as it is after all the only pokemon not to have a full reveal now :P Drake3011 19:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Polish name.

...you know we take Pokémon names from English? I've never saw or heard a name in Polish version of Pokémon that isn't the same as in English (except pronouncation, of course). Of course, I could miss something. Marked +-+-+ 17:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Mind if I ask your point? Genesect's Polish name is already on the page. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 17:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is. But why it is there if it's the same as English? Our games are in English, and we don't have our Pokémon names like Japan, [english-speaking countries], France or Spain... of course there could be exceptions, but as far as I saw, animé uses the same names, with most likely only pronunciation changed. Marked +-+-+ 14:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

It's already been removed anyway, so don't worry about it. --SnorlaxMonster 14:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I guess I'm just a tad confused. So you don't have your own separate games in Polish, you just import the English versions? ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 16:27, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

As far as I know, yes, we don't have separate games. This is why not many moves have Polish translation, as I get it from animé, while someone got few things like Drought from a book (guidebook I'll guess). Games themselves aren't officially translated (or I don't know anything about such games). I am not sure how we get them, though. Try talking to OldBen, as far as I know, he has such books (as he was the one to add Polish names for Drought, Drizzle and few other stuff). Marked +-+-+ 20:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Genesect a reference to Neon Genesis Evangelion?

http://i.imgur.com/WNgWa

I think Genesect may be an homage to Neon Genesis Evangelion. The colour of him and his shiny sprite look very similar to the Unit-01 and Unit-02 respectively. Even down to the secondary colours used on the eyes. The stripe on the abdomen looks like the stripe on the Evas midsections. The origin story of Genesect is also very similar. The Eva units were created from a humanoid alien and modified to be piloted. The eva units are actually biological creatures with armour and a cockpit attached. Genesect's head looks similar to the mass produced eva units long heads. (Not pictured.) The choice of colours seems pretty deliberate. Flintlock (talk) 08:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

True, but as I mentioned above it looks more like one of the Insecticons from Transformers. Maybe a double reference? --KingStarscream (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Pokédex entries

Please corrected the Pokédex entries from Black & White 2: It lived 300 million years ago. Team plasma modified it and planted him on the back up a gun. Thanks. HetAnubis ^(talk) 11:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Pokedex

on the official pokemon website it isn't listed in the pokedex. why is that? Bryce (talk) 08:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Because it hasn't been officially released in any English-speaking countries yet. Only in Japan. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 09:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Translated site

I don't know if this is just a translation error, but the site translated this into English: "Pokemon Genosekuto of this newly found vision, " Pokemon Black 2 White 2 in the normal play of "can not be put in hand, special Pokemon. Genosekuto is, would you Pokemon was born by Dan plasma to restore the fossils 300 million years ago, to remodeling!" So does that mean Genesect can't be put into the party, or is it just misread? It's probs a mistake, since it'd be pointless not to be able to use it.-- Pringles 00:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

It just means you can't obtain it in-game without divine intervention from a Nintendo event, as is usually the case with Event Legendaries. yeyjordan 03:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Black 2 White 2 pokedex Kanji

３億年前に いた ポケモン。 プラズマ団に 改造 され 背中に 砲台を つけられた。- unsigned comment from ‎Pikablu90 (talk • contribs)

Possible Ancestor

Would Kabutops be considered an ancestor I mean look at the body type and stance they both seem to make. They could be deeply related despite Kabutops living in the ocean he still goes on land to hunt. - unsigned comment from EvasiveEmolga (talk • contribs)

No. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 10:15, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

It really doesn't work considering that Genesect is part bug, an attribute Kabutops doesn't have, and that their body shapes are different for example their torsos while Genesect has a typical insect body,segmented, Kabutops have 1 section to their torso. for this to have happened Plasma would have to remove a section of Kabutops and inflame the pelvis to reach the specified shape which i am positive wouldn't really serve a purpose to the pokemon. Plus shouldnt he theoretically have a gender and ability to breed with other Kabutops or pokémon in the same egg group? --Toymoo (talk) 18:23, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

And, Genesect's stance is only like that because of the giant laser on its back. Also gotta lean a little to aim, just like Blastoise. R.A. Hunter Blade 18:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Of course it's not exactly the same, it's "altered". The dex doesn't say "altered by adding a cannon to its back" it says it was altered AND had a cannon attached to its back. But... There's nothing official to go off, just a lot of interesting links that can be drawn between the two. Unless someone actually bothers to ask the design team (which nobody ever does for some reason), I wouldn't say there's enough basis for it to be included in the article. Me, Hurray! (talk) 22:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I think Kabutops is the ancestor of Genesect, despite that Genesect is bug type. First of all, Kabutops shares a resemblance to Genesect. Second of all, it states on Genesect that before it was modified by Team Plasma, it was a skilled and a ruthless hunter, while Kabutops was a fierce prehistoric predator. Next, there could be a possibility that the revived fossil was Kabutops because there couldn't be a pokemon fossil that when revived, would look like Genesect other than the Dome fossil when Kabuto evolves into Kabutops. Finally, Kabutops and Genesect both have some of the same features like, that they both have wide flattish heads,a provident chest, the pelvis sticks out,they both have blade hands, and their leg structures are almost the same. KoiFish

This is starting to sound like a Forums discussion. From the looks of it, it was already determined that there is not enough evidence to conclude that Kabutops is an ancestor of Genesect and thus making the connection unnotable. Please stop speculating on this page. --Pokemaster97 02:07, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

How is Magnet Bomb an event move?

Um...it's listed in the level-up list. Am I crazy, or is this true?(Don't say I'm crazy or you'll regret it)Eeveewithwings123 (talk) 21:54, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Genesect normally learns it later. Lv. 15 event Genesect versus Lv. 22 "normal" Genesect. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 22:08, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Origin

I would also like to add something to the origin. Now that Genesect's High Speed Flight Form has been announced, I would like to add to the origin that Genesect's ability to transform into a vehicle is another aspect inspired by alien robots in science fiction, specifically, Transformers.(O++O) Dralcax (talk) 01:48, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Based on my understanding, we generally try to avoid referring to copyrighted works in the Origin sections unless it's blatantly obvious (like Tyranitar/Godzilla). I don't know much about Transformers, so I'll defer to anybody else's final judgment, but I'd be hesitant to draw an explicit comparison between the two. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:08, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, Keldeo is different. They probably don't have MLP toys in Japan, but I'm pretty sure they have Transformers. Besides, the origin already says it is based off of alien robots, and now that we know it can transform, I'd say there's a possible connection.(O++O) Dralcax (talk) 17:53, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Except Transformers aren't the only transforming robots. All too often people will find comparisons to something with no real evidence, and that is called speculation. Unless it's officially stated, or heavily obvious, we won't include it in the origin sections. Also, please put new sections at the bottom, and do not reply to messages older than six months. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 23:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Ambrette town fossil lab

While playing X&Y, I was speaking to people in the fossil lab of Ambrette Town, and a Hiker asked if I had a Genesect. Should this be included anywhere on the page?--Darkmaster (talk) 01:36, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

It'd probably be best to wait until Pokémon Bank is released and Genesect can be obtained in XY, then we'll know what he wants to see the Genesect for. ~たかはりい 01:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Chespin pic and number

At the bottom of the page, the bar which links to the previous and next Pokémon contains two errors. Chespin is shown as #651 instead of #650, in addition to having the icon of a Quilladin instead of his own. Seeing as I apparently don't have the permission to edit the page, I thought I'd just leave this here for someone who in fact can correct this. The Q (talk) 09:37, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I fixed it. Thanks for the heads up. --Wynd Fox 09:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Reddy

Am I right in thinking that the Red Genesect from the most recent Pokémon movie is the first movie legendary not to get an English-language event? I know we got a "Team Plasma Genesect", but we never got the red Genesect from the movie. Is that notable trivia, if it's the only one? I can't think of any others that were skipped. I mean, we even got the shiny frickin' Beast Trio from the Zoroark movie. Me, Hurray! (talk) 14:14, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, as far as I can tell (at least based on our wiki pages), there were no English-language movie tie-in events until the Mystery Mew for M08. Thus, there were (at least) seven movies before M16 not to have tie-in events. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Technoblast

Have noticed that technoblast now has 120 power, should this be updated? - unsigned comment from CraftyWeavile (talk • contribs)

Since this is currently its Gen V moveset, no. When it's Gen VI moveset is added, it'll be updated. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 01:10, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Possible design origin

A Goldwing motor..thing?Some look a LOT like Genesect... I'm not sure how to insert images, but here's a pic. Is it coincidence? - Pringles 18:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

It looks like that no more than it looks like every other vehicle with a bumper and headlights. glik^glak 21:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Trivia

Now that Gen VI is out and Diancie is the last known Pokémon, Genesect's trivia about National Dex order is no longer accurate. Can someone with editing privileges alter or remove it? -- Umbee (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Except Diancie is not the end of the full Kalos dex, despite being there at current. This is about the "only one that isn't Psychic in some form" trivia, correct? Kai * the Arc Toraph 04:05, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Form Registration

On Genesect's page it is stated that,unlike Furfrou's, Genesect's and Arceus' forms are not registered in the pokedex. As of ORAS this is no longer true. Both Genesect's and Arceus' forms are now counted in the dex in the same way as Furfrou's. --Hydrachomp (talk) 17:03, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I did that because the only info I had at the time was about Furfrou's update. I'll go ahead and remove them today. Also, remember to put four ~ to sign your comments. —TheVeryBest 16:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Mistranslation

One entry says Team Plasma added canon on its back, other one says they only upgraded it. Is this the same in the japanese version?--Rocket Grunt 12:49, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Possible Action Figure Origin

I had the realization some time ago that Genesect has some pretty strong action figure resemblances in addition to its robotic aesthetic. The shape, the way he transforms, the eyes that look like transparent plastic, but most notable, the blaster on his back having a definite resemblance to a plastic dart gun you'd find on transformers or toys in general. There's even a black button on top of the drive that one might press to fire a bolt on an action figure. To me the resemblance is pretty uncanny, but I haven't been able to find any specific source or confirmation of this, and I feel this may not be the most obvious thing to everyone. I'm trying to get other opinions before I just try to edit that change, but is this a type of thing I could put into the Origin section without specific proof? Really I'm just trying to gauge thoughts on this possible additional origin before just adding it because I'm ever so slightly on the fence about just adding it, though I feel strongly in the right about it. --Keifers (talk) 03:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

I feel like we'd need more than just a physical resemblance, like textual evidence linking Genesect to action figures. Landfish7 03:10, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Textual, as is like a more explicit connection confirmed by the game our an otherwise related source? Keifers (talk) 17:30, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Textual evidence would be evidence from the games text, yes. Evidence from an official source would also be good. Landfish7 18:12, 15 August 2022 (UTC)