Talk:Mew (Pokémon)

Mew's abilities

In the first movie, mew used a bubble of pink psychic energy to save Ash. It also utilized this ability several other times throughout the movie. However, this is not stated in the "special abilities" section, alhtough what is stated is that mew can create forcefields. Forcefields and pink bubbles are two different things, this is best shown by the contrast between Mew "forcefield" in pokemon snap (which is also yellow/green) and Mew's Bubble in the first movie. So does anyone mind if I add in the bit about the pink bubbles? - unsigned comment from Wikid (talk • contribs)

No, please do so. Add a picture if you feel like it. Just make sure it meets quality standards. LordArceus 23:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Mew doesn't listen?

Mew doesn't listen to its original trainer? Is this true? --Pluvia 20:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

If you hack it in Gen III or IV, yes. Same with Deoxys. --TTEchidna 21:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this always the case? I've seen a hacked Mew (Gen IV) that (according to the owner) is completely obedient. Could this be because the friendship level is so high, or is it just a fluke? Featherflame 20:51, 8/10/07

Mew and Deoxys are obedient in Gen IV even if they're hacked. Vereux0 20:08, 8/20/07

In Gen III, Mew and Deoxys have an obediance bit. If this is missing, they won't obey. It is possible to hack a Mew or Deoxys and have it obey. To answer the question, it depends on how it's hacked. - MacGyver

And the obedience bit is automatically turned on when they get transferred over through Pal Park, I believe. TTEchidna 02:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

If a mew that is transfered from a GBA game that was hacked to get it,will it corrupt the D/P game? And will it listen? I'm just asking. [[1]]

Hmmm...I just tested this in diamond with an action replay thingy (don't worry i deleted the mew right after) and it works fine. Obeys and everything. -- Salome 23:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

There is no obedient bit in Diamond/Pearl. It was a feature that was intentionally removed. Sabresite 08:18, 24 March 2009 (GMT)

mew glitch

i really dont think that the mew glitch should be in the in-game locations table, seeing as it is not actually a location, and not legitamite... any thoughts?

Bill33421 19:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

It's still a way to obtain Mew, and it can be done without cheating. --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Fun}File:224MS.gif 20:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Correction: without a using a cheat device. Most would consider abusing a glitch to be the same as cheating.--Dual 23:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that. Cerberus 03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

But it's kinda... I dunno, it's a glitch. Abusing glitches also means that Missingno shouldn't be here. People visit him on the side of Cinnabar to get 128 (or something~) Rare Candies and Master Balls. Tina ^δ♫ 03:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Given the nature of Mew's availability, it's just nice to have something in the table other than "Trade". --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 10:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe instead "Nintendo event"? TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- Awar 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC).

Imma add just 'Nintendo event'. Feel free to revert. Tina ^δ♫ 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh lol. >> It's already have been done. Er... heh. Tina ^δ♫ 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

--Starlight_the_ampharos 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I must be insane....

Ok so Arceus tottaly conflicts with with mew but arceus came from an egg. What if mew was the egg and therefor is the ancestor of all pokemon mew just didnt "create" any new pokemon. In fact it was never even mentioned (to my knowlage) that he did. So therefor mew remains to look like a embryo (catching drift egg) and we shall never know~kittenchild

which came first, the Arceus or the Mew? -- MAGNEDETH 03:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well by my theory and using the myths it states that "...at the heart of chaos where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the original one." This states that the egg came before arceus. - unsigned comment from Kittenchild (talk • contribs)

Arceus was born from the cosmic Egg, but Mew contains the DNA of all Pokémon. It can be assumed that Arceus is the Creator and first Pokémon, but Mew is the common ancestor (assuming Arceus wasn't like Zeus who went spreading his genes all over the landscape).--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

oh and by this theory im not saying arceus didnt create the pokemon universe im saying mew didnt realy "create" anything he just kinda was there... and his Dna is in everything (pokemon of course) - unsigned comment from Kittenchild (talk • contribs)

Mew's Pokadex entry says that it is the ancestor of ALL Pokamon. And Arceus is the fat ass who created EVERYTHING (I then assume this includes Mewtwo Mew too). So, did Mew evolve into Arceus? Or did Arceus create Mew? It's all very confusing. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links08:06 21 May 2008

Arceus created Mew, then Mew created/whatever/evolved(evolved as in Apes into Humans, not Bulbasaur into Ivysaur)/mutated into other Pokémon. Maybe thats how it happened? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

But Mew evolved into Arceus. It is the ancestor of ALL Pokémon. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:50 21 May 2008

Hmm...errr...This is getting confusing! If thats true, but my theory is also true at the same time would that mean Arceus isn't a pokémon?! ...Then again, it's the GOD/Alpha(if i remember rightly), that would mean it would have HAD too have come first. Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 09:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Right, so why can it be captured in a Pokéball (FORGET THE RICE BALL INCIDENT!!!) Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:55 21 May 2008

...I know Arceus is a Pokémon i was just saying :\ Look. The way i see it, Arceus came first, created Mew, and Mew became the other Pokémon (not like, the Legendaries). Just because it's the ancestor of all Pokémon doesn't mean it's the ansector of the God Pokémon, i'm sure Mew isn't the ancestor of the Legendaries as it says Arceus created Palkia, Diagla and Giratina and some others (if i remember rightly!). Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 15:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

No noo noo. I meant mew hatched arceus (being the egg and all) and therefor because mew "created" (not realy) arceus' gentic meterial then arceus went to create the rest of the pokemon that genetic meterial caried over and mew never realy did squat... - unsigned comment from Kittenchild (talk • contribs)

Ok, this is what happened. First come Arceus. He say "I wanna Dialga and Palkia." And he made them. Next he say "Now i want universe." So he made universe. Next he say "I want living things." So he made Mew who laid eggs of Pokémon, and live-birthed humans. They all got up, but they each had no souls. Arceus say "Imma gonna give you souls." So he maid the lake trio who gave them all souls. Arceus fell asleep. Teh end. You can quote me on that. LordKaien 16:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

But Mew's Pokédex entry states that it's the ancestor of all Pokémon. Here's what I think happened:

1. The egg of Arceus is created from the chaos.
2. The egg hatches.
3. The eggshell, which was made of genetic material, forms into Mew. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Arceus.)
4. Arceus creates Dialga and Palkia. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Dialga and Palkia.)
5. Arceus creates Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf.)
6. Mew's descendants are all slightly different, and their descendants are slightly more different, and so on, until there are all of the different species of Pokémon. (This makes Mew the ancestor of all other Pokémon.)

--S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 00:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The Pokédex in Diamond & Pearl doesn't specifically state that Mew may be the ancestor of all Pokémon. Just that many scientists believe that it's the ancestor of Pokémon... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 17:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You have to admit, it may be that Arceus created Mew, then Mew created the rest of the Pokémon. At least, that's what it looks like.BlueJirachi 20:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

That's the idea I had as well. Arceus took to slumber after creating reality and Mew created all other Pokémon. Perhaps Arceus created all Legendaries and Mew created the rest. Sinnoh myths only mention Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio because most people don't know of the other Legendary Pokémon of the region, and they probably wouldn't know of another region's Legendaries. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's subjects like this that just make you wish you could get Tajiri to do an interview r something...(Fossilgojira 21:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC))

Yeah, only a few people in Sinnoh know about other Legendaries living in their own backyard like Cresselia and Heatran. The book in Canalave City apparently refers to Arceus as the "Original One", meaning that Arceus came before Mew.BlueJirachi 20:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

General consensus is all that is indicated by the Pokedex. Arceus is known to have created Palkia and Dialga, who in turn created the universe, while he created Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf, who are credited with the creation of "spirit". This obviously makes them the progenitors of pokemon and humans. It's also worth noting that they all bear a more-than-superficial resemblance to Mew, all being extraordinarily powerful psychic pokemon. Mew, I believe, was their first collaborative creation, combining the essences of Knowledge, Emotion and Willpower into a single entity. It was unstable, so as it laid eggs, they hatched into things that definitely were NOT Mew. That instability diluted acrost generations until pokemon species were all stable (except, of course, Mew). The exemptions to this origin are Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, and the Lake Trio, for obvious reasons; Giratina, likely spontaneously creating itself upon the first death; and Darkrai, created gradually by psychoses, rage, and bad pizza forming nightmares. Shaymin most likely IS Mew-descended as we have no reason to think otherwise. Forgive me for talking so heavily in-universe, and remember all this is prefaced with "I believe...". SixthFlyingMan 03:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, Cresselia, she was formed of good dreams rather than nightmares, and not of Mew. SixthFlyingMan 06:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Mew is stated to have all the Pokémon's DNA. A literal understanding makes one believe Arceus' DNA is included, but one must think of the difficulty of obtaining a DNA sample from a Pokémon in another dimension. Mew is a scientific reason for all these little criters while Arceus seems to be a more religiopus explanation (though it never said it created any Pokémon apart from the Sinnoh legends)

--Outrage DD 23:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Which even then, it's unknown if it actually did create it or if people just lied about it and believed their own propaganda (I mean, it's a MYTH. Myths aren't usually true. In fact, it's extremely unlikely that it is true. I mean, did Zeus create lighting? No, he didn't. Did Poseidon and Apollo create the Trojan wall? No they didn't, as they technically don't exist.). A common rule for Mythology is that it's mostly created from a bunch of falsehoods in a futile attempt to explain what had happened in terms of creation (the Bible doesn't count, as there's been archaeological evidence that the events in the Bible happened exactly as it was described.). Weedle Mchairybug 03:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Er, Zeus just throws lightning...Hephaestus smithies lightning bolts for him. So technically Hephaestus created lightning. And why would Poseidon make a wall for Troy if he supported Greece? And yes, the Bible counts in this...(what evidence is there of the Biblical creation story again?). You have to take that sort of thing with a grain of salt; things happened "exactly as described" is an impossibility. I mean, there's evidence the Trojan War happened, but obviously without gods throwing out divine intervention left and right.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Not to be a jerk, but only the later Biblical stories are confirmed. As in, the ones where God doesn't make an appearance. Eden's a myth too. TTEchidna 05:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I would say “Please don’t turn this into an IRL religion debate”… but it’s too late for that now. Good grief. IIMarckus 05:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

If two possesses one's DNA, does that mean that two is the ancestor of one? No. For pete's sake, with that logic humans are the ancestors of Gorillas. (Though you have to admit, both species are equally wild). Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links 06:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, you know what, let's just stop this thing, and anyone who wishes to continue can take it to my talk page (as it was partially my fault that this started). Oh, and BTW, the Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible and Christianity already confirmed that most of the events (Yes, even the ones where God directly appeared) did already happen, and there was a special in regards to the Moses incident in Egypt. just something that's FYI, as well as my final note in regards to IRL. Weedle Mchairybug 13:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't meen to bring up the topic again but im pretty sure it happens like so

Beginning of universe Arceus comes into being. Arceus creates the dragon trio and the lake trio. Giratina disappears into the Ruined World. Dialga and Palkia create matter, space, and time. Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit create spirit. Arceus falls into a deep sleep. Creation of Pokémon world Groudon is formed from magma, Kyogre is formed by the pressure in the deep sea trenches, Rayquaza is formed by the minerals of the ozone layer. Groudon brings the land, Kyogre expands the sea. Mew is born. Groudon and Kyogre battle, destroying nearly all the Hoenn region. Rayquaza stopped the battle between Groudon and Kyogre. Both Pokémon were fallen into deep sleep: Kyogre was sealed into the Deep-Sea Seafloor cavern, and Groudon was sealed on the Mystic caves of Mt. Chimney. Red and Blue Orbs were created and guarded in the high peaks of Mt. Pyre to prevent the awakening of Kyogre and Groudon which will start into a battle. Rayquaza had fallen into a deep sleep and sealed away into the ancient Sky Pillar. Mt. Coronet is created. Regigigas moves the continents. The Sinnoh region is created around Mt. Coronet Stark Mountain is created, Heatran is formed from lava. --MyUU 18:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This topic has filled up with wonderful speculation (come on, seriosuly? Arceus's egg becoming Mew?), but it hardly matters because there is no conflict. Please note that NEVER has it ever been said that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon; in a Dex entry it said that was believed to be true because it contains every Pokémon's DNA. So, Arceus was first, and it created Mew (I would guess) with all of that DNA. Oh, and Myuu, I applaud your history. It's nice. ;) LordArceus 23:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So... What if Mew was the first one? I mean, Arceus could have made universe, time, space, dimentions, etc. but mew made dialga, palkia, giratina... Also, life was made by mew, earth was made by the weather trio, and the life in it was made by mew, so it is the ancestor of everyone, maybe arceus doesnt have mews dna, as noone in the pokemon world knows about it... so scientist could say that of the 492 pokemon known, mew has dna of every... couldn't it be?- unsigned comment from Kamusioso (talk • contribs)

OBJECTION. Arceus created two beings! They wished and matter came to being! That is a clear contradiction with the witness's theory! Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links 23:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Here`s my opinion: It is possible that Mew was the first pokemon created by Arceus, and therefore has the DNA of all the OTHER pokemon. If it had Arceus` DNA, then scientists in the pokemon world would technically know it exists (please excuse any spelling errors)--Starlight_the_ampharos 02:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Even if they did find the DNA strand, they wouldn't be able to identify it. And there are MANY undiscovered Pokémon according to the Proffessors in the games.- unsigned comment from Rocket Admin Hunter Blade (talk • contribs)

That's what I meant. They wouldn't know what pokémon the DNA belongs to, but I'm sure they would know it wasn't any officialy discovered pokémon, or at least not one they know of.--Starlight_the_ampharos 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, we don't know if the PokeDex is right, I mean, Oak doesn't know EVERYTHING. Also, no one ever caught Mew, so we don't know if it has all of the DNA of all of the pokemon. I think Arceus created the universe,and the dragon trio and the lake trio, and Arceus set the chain of events that would create the 'nature' Legendaries, like Groudon coming from magma, ect. But what about Deoxys? Where did Deoxys come from. In the anime it says from outer space. So, that would mean that Palkia would have created Deoxys, and Raquaza. - unsigned comment from Shadow lucario (talk • contribs)

First off, Palkia does NOT represent Outer Space. It represents "Space", as in, wormholes, fabrics (Not clothes fabrics, Science fabrics.), "Space/Time Continuum", etc. Secondly, considering how Arceus is listed to be a Pokemon in the Pokedex, not to mention it's data is easily recorded into the Pokedex as well, most likely researchers DO know about Arceus' existance (not just believing, actually knowing it exists and having samples of it's DNA.). So they didn't capture Mew, big whoop. They identified it in the Pokedex, nonetheless. I still think it's Mew who created Arceus, and until they actually clarify what they meant for starting this debate, we still have to think that Arceus was a genetic descendant of Mew, considering Mew's mentions of containing the DNA of Pokemon (Yes, it technically doesn't say "All" in there, but it doesn't say "Some", "Few", "Many", or any of those restrictive nouns either. Plus, using generalizations (Like just saying Pokemon), regardless of whether it actually says "all" or not, usually implies that it's meaning all. Weedle Mchairybug 22:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

How did we get from the Mew Glitch to this? ... Please, take any discussion about the origin of Pokemon to the Bulbagarden Forums, as we cannot put anything into this article until an official release from Nintendo, etc. — THE TROM — 22:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Good point, but as the pokédex states that "many scientists believe Mew to be the ancestor of Pokémon" and Arceus that it is told/described in mythology, my point being that Mew is scientific theory and Arceus its just a myth that he created the universe, just like Zeus. - AOS

Okay, forget what I said about Mew only having the DNA of all the other Pokémon. If it was created by Arceus, then it could inherit Arceus' DNA.--Starlight the ampharos 03:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't read most of everything said, i just thought i'd put in my bits. Mew seems to me like the "Evolution" in pokemon: they're all evolved down from Mew, because he is the embryo. Like, Mew is the Darwin pokemon they've all evolved from (not pokemon evolution, but Darwin evolution). Arceus, on the other hand, is more of a God figure, which contradicts Evolution. So like... i don't see how they fit in the same world, but Pokemon is quite the odd game, haha! But i do think Mew is like, the evolution theory, and Arceus is the God theory. :o CherryParanoia 05:30, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

discovery?

who discovered Mew, Team Rocket of Professor Oak? the Official Pokémon Handbook says Oak, but it seems like TR was behind it. Mooites 03:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The Handbooks take a lot of...liberties...I for one don't particularly trust them with this sort of thing.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it's because Mew has an entry in the Pokédex that they figure that Oak discovered it. If Team Rocket discovered Mew, would anyone else know about it? ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 14:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

FireRed and Leafgreen say that some scientists from Cinnabar discovered Mew in South America.BlueJirachiWishMaker 14:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

TM lists

Is it really necessary for list every single TM/HM under By TM/HM? Why not state that Mew can learn any TM/HM available and link them to the TM and HM pages? -Chosen of Mana

It's most likely to remain consistant with the other pages... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

But its a much better idea to do what Chosen of Mana said as it wastes much less space Wikid 22:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Wikid

If that's true, it's a much better idea to combine Caterpie and Metapod's pages with Butterfree's, too, because the first two are USELESS. But we don't. Bulbapedia strives for completeness. Plus, you can just copy/paste Mew's learnset and subtract from it what you need to when adding them to the other Pokémon pages. Plus, think of it this way, you can see the contest stats for all of them, as well as the PP, type, power, damage category, and so on. Can you do that if we were just to put "LOL, EVERYTHING"? Nope.

Which is... pretty much why I think the move articles need an overhaul. I'll work on that later on. TTEchidna 23:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Disobediance

This quote in the Game locations section...:

"In Generation III onward, Mew does not obey when found in the wild by use of a cheating device."

...is not true. I've obtained Mew through Action Replay and they obey. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 05:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I removed the statement. I used the "encounter any Pokémon in the wild" cheat to catch a shiny Mew in Diamond and it obeys just fine. No problems at all. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Technically this happens only in Generation III. The same is true for a Deoxys caught with a GameShark or other cheating device, but I've only seen it disobey in Gen. 3. Blazevoir 19:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I did come across a Mew in Gen III that didn't listen, but there are other codes out there that allow you to catch a Mew that does obey. And not just the Mew found in Emerald. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 19:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this, please read my comment above, there is no obedience bit in the DS games. All pokemon that needed the bit in GBA, had it when obtained in a legit fashion. Sabresite 08:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

time to hatch

Umm...How can Mew have a "time to hatch" when afaik it is impossible to get a Mew egg? Kidburla 23:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Every Pokémon is given that datum, whether it can come from an egg or not. Presumably so the game doesn't collapse in on itself. We get this stuff by digging around in the game data.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, it's the same thing as empty slot Pokémon like Missingno. They exist because game data must be complete. For example, let's say Mew was never coded as having a 'Time to Hatch.' If someone hacked a Mew egg, the game would just die right then and there because it's drawing on nonexistant data. Games like this can't have nulls, they just freeze. LordArceus 00:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

giving birth

I'm not so sure that when the programmers put "mew gave birth" into the diary, that that's what they literally meant. Couldn't it be more of a metaphor for the fact that after all the hard work the scientists went through, they wrote mew gave birth because the scientists were finally able to successfully clone mew? Although it wasn't stated in the games, in the anime it's mentioned that there were others before Mewtwo that didn't survive the cloning process. So maybe it's possible that they meant the cloning was finally a success rather than mew actually giving birth. InuMimi 19:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

That's exactly what I think as well. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 13:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Mew 'gave birth' in the literal sense, either. I think by that statement it's implying Mew's DNA birthed Mewtwo. Wicked Weavile 10:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, when i first read the diary entry in the game, i assume it meant it as a Metaphor. Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 11:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Who knows? Probably there is more than one Mew (which I believe), it wouldn't be the first "legendary" that can be more than one.--AOS 03:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Mew is catchable

My friend told me that you could catch Mew by defeating the Elite Four 12 or maybe 20 times ,and it worked for him, and he doesn't have a hacking device. It didn't work for my other friend, though. I did it and that worked, but I'm not sure if I should put it on the article because I am not sure if there's a 50 percent chance of this or something. Can someone please verify this on his/her FireRed/ LeafGreen Version? -Metagross72

He's lying. There have been MANY rumors like that, in every Pokémon game, and there always fake. Even if he did find a way to get Mew, beating the Elite Four X-number of times wont get you Mew. Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 05:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

'Many' is a gigantic understatement. OMFGQGB GUYZ!!!! CATCH DEOXYS FROM TEH SPACECENTR!!!11!211! Please spare us the trouble of saying no and just don't believe rumors from [insert friend's or friends' name(s) here]. LordArceus 00:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

There is no space center Deoxys in Emerald. And if that's what you're saying, please don't get angry; I just misunderstood. パルキアJosh 18:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

He's citing the Deoxys space center rumor as an example of the rumors that fly around. You should be able to tell he's not being serious by the raucous tone and...terrible spelling and use of internet slang in a ridiculous manner. (Note he says "don't listen to rumors immediately afterward.) And this talk topic has been dead for over a month.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

More like dead since Blue and Red versions. - AOS

Arceus vs. Mew

Please see Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)#Arceus vs. Mew.KrytenKoro 05:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Stadium games glitching

Isn't it true that if you deposit Mew in a box in either of the Stadium games, it causes some saved data to glitch? I've heard of this happening to other people, and it's even happened to me: When I stuck Mew in an N64 box in Stadium 2, I had to re-do all the cups (but box data was strangely intact). Blaziken257 22:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

XD Tutor Moves

In Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, there is a special move tutor that teaches only Mew moves. Anyone got a list of those moves for this page? Gywall^(Talk) 21:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. ht14 21:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay...

Who the fluff keeps adding the Mew glitch to the locations, huh? GLITCHES ARE NOT OFFICIAL WAYS OF GETTING THE POKÉMON, OTHERWISE GOLBAT SHOULD BE LISTED AS BEING FOUND ON ROUTE 20 IN RED AND BLUE. But IT'S NOT. Any Pokémon can be found anywhere by screwing with the game, whether with glitches or otherwise. DO NOT list them as legitimate ways of obtaining any Pokémon from now on. TTEchidna 19:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Don't get mad, mate. Take it easy. - AOS

...Golbat can be found in route 20? Well, thats a glitch i've never heard off... ~~Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 19:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Right side of Cinnabar Island = Route 20. TTEchidna 01:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Japanese name

on the page mew (Pokémon) it states that Mew's japanese name is Mew I'm pretty sure it is Myuu but I might be wrong - unsigned comment from MyUU (talk • contribs)

According to our List of Japanese Pokémon names, the name is actually Myū, but the trademarked romaji is Mew, so we're sticking with that. --((Marton imos)) 23:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know that much Japanese but I do know that technically it is Myū, but it's trademarked as Mew and it's easier for non-Japanese speakers to understand what it says. Dialgarules 23:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Wi-fi Square

There is an Easter Egg Mew room in the Wi-fi square. Do you think we should add it, or should that go in the Wi-fi Square article? Or maybe both? R.A. Hunter B. 22:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

REALLY? I wonder if it'll be in the English version... Are you sure it's not a glitch? パルキアJosh 18:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

In the trivia........

When it says that Mew was the first ever trademark, does it mean the Mew was the first Pokemon ever to be created in the franchise? --Kid Sonic 23:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Its name was registered first. Doesn't mean it was created first, but it was submitted for legal protection first.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Mew is such a simple name that Nintendo were probably worried that someone else would think of it, so they trademarked it as soon as possible.- unsigned comment from Taromon777 (talk • contribs)

So who was the first Pokemon created as to Togepi of Johto, Kecleon of Hoenn, and Munchlax of Sinnoh? --Kid Sonic 05:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

That we'd have to ask them about. I've got no idea of any of their emails, but we could possibly submit this to Pokémon.com's mailbag... Remember that Ho-Oh was revealed (kinda) before Togepi, though. TTEchidna 09:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I remember that Shellos/Gastrodon was originally intended for Ruby/Sapphire, so maybe them? I dunno.... *realises this isn't a forum so shuts up* — THE TROM — 09:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The trivia states contradictory information right on top of itself:

"* Mew (then spelled ミュー, not ミュウ) was the first Pokémon trademark ever registered (granted on March 31, 1994, registration number 2636685 part 12), before even Pocket Monsters (ポケットモンスター), which was granted on December 26, 1997.

• • ミュウ was registered on August 6, 1999, registration number 4302090.
• Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; the application was submitted on May 9, 1990, application number 平2-51989; before even Pocket Monsters, which was submitted September 11, 1995.
  • ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909."

How do we resolve this? -- evkl _{(need to talk?)} 19:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh gosh... my brain hurts now... we need to find the factual dates and fix it. R.A. Hunter B. 22:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Just because it was submitted doesn't mean it was granted. TTEchidna 22:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Role Play Mew

Recently, an edit of mine adding Role Play Mew as an XD Tutor was removed. This post here shows some testing of XD movesets. People did successfully get a Role Play Mew, but not a Trick Mew. I believe it had been discovered a while ago that Serebii had a mistake, but no one ever bothered to tell him I guess. The Placebo Effect 05:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

That isn't an official source. Have you tried teaching Mew with Role Play? According to this article, there's no way Mew can learn that move. ►Ҝəυzø8 06:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to have to take Kev's side. Are you sure your source isn't wrong?--Clarky13 06:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

So people testing the game themselves isn't a source? How would I go about proving my side right then? And that article got its source from the same place this one did. So it stands to reason if this one is wrong, than so is this one. (FYI, its usually not a good idea to use a wiki article to prove another is true) The Placebo Effect 06:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

ill test it myself tomorrow, but in the meantime, leave it my way. -- MAGNEDETH 06:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Protect it or something, deth. So it don't start an edit war. (or continue it as I can see.)--Clarky13 06:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey now! I respect what he said about testing. I'm not going to edit it again. I'm just going to sit on the sidelines till he proves me right :P. The Placebo Effect 06:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Haha, OK. Sorry, I'm not against you. Just making sure.--Clarky13 06:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Any word on this Magnedeth? The Placebo Effect 06:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

sorry. i forgot-ish. i got Mew to learn Trick in XD and Emerald. i havnt got the chance yet to test Role Play. -- MAGNEDETH 06:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

What about now? Its been a few days and no progress has been posted. The Placebo Effect 13:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Something something life off Bulbapedia..... — THE TROM — 08:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-w6UsMQ3E The Placebo Effect 14:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Starter Glitch

I've heard that, in Red and Blue, you can name your starter MEW and it will turn into a Mew.Is this true?--Frostagin 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

No, any rumor like that is a lie. You can try it out for yourself, but it will be a waste of time. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 18:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, regardless of what your source is, there are no other ways to obtain Mew than events, Faraway Island (=events), My Pokémon Ranch and cheating (including the Mew glitch). UltimateSephiroth ^{(about me · chat · edits)} 18:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Initial Design

I was reading up on Mew over on Wikipedia (they sometimes have more real-world information that I consider more interesting than the in-game stuff) and came across some information that I'm not quite sure if I should believe. It's generally believed that Tajiri secretly designed and inserted Mew into the programming, though Wikipedia claims this:

"Unlike other characters in the Pokémon franchise, Mew was not initially conceived by Ken Sugimori, but by Game Freak programmer Shigeki Morimoto. Morimoto programmed Mew into the game secretly, just prior to its release in Japan, intending it to be a Pokémon Game Freak staff members would know about and be able to obtain.[2] However, in the spring of 1996, Game Freak president Satoshi Tajiri used the Japanese manga journal Korokoro Comic as an experimental exhibition of Mew and distributed the first cards for the game as free giveaways,[3] which surprised many at Game Freak, including Morimoto.[2] Due to the success of the experiment on April 15, 1996, Game Freak announced a contest to publicly release Mew to 151 winners.[4] Tajiri described using Mew to create hype around an "invisible character" within the game and to keep interest alive in the title and create rumors and myths about the game passed around by word of mouth,[5] which resulted in increased sales for the game.[6]"

This quotation seems to suggest that a Shigeki Morimoto (who doesn't have an article here) designed Mew in an attempt to have some special secret for the designers, which was then turned into a marketing ploy by Tajiri. Now, if something like this were true I'd be inclined to believe Bulbapedia would have the information for this, yet it doesn't seem to.

The information to confirm or deny this is found on reference [2], yet the page is in Japanese so I cannot read it. All the other citations suggest it was solely Tajiri that planned and implemented Mew. So, can anyone help me with a little research and figure this out? Redstar 15:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Trivia?

Is it notable that (I'm assuming) Mew can learn the most different attacks of any Pokemon? Obviously, since it can learn every TM and HM, that puts it way ahead of the curve. When I say this, I mean learn via TM/Level up/breeding/tutor, not sketch. --Skaisdead 01:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it's already mentioned. But, yea, It is worth noting _ShinyPika 18:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Images

Does anyone know where this image? And where does the imagine at the beginning of Gotta Catch 'em All! (song) come from? --Abcd 15:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

1) First movie.
2) Made for intro.--Mew a.k.a. Immewnity was here at 16:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Name trademarks

So... the section implies that the name "ミュウ" came up around 1997. But Red and Green predate that, which makes me wonder.. what spelling does Red and Green use? (maaaybe a screenshot of encountering it in the wild as proof?) Does it use ミュウ, or does it use ミュー? ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 21:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I guess, after releasing the games, they figured they proooobably should trademark that spelling? *shrug* 梅子^❀_✿ 21:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

My Pokémon Ranch

Can the My Pokémon Ranch Mew be shiny? Jazzmoth 21:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Contradiction

* Mew was a little-known secret when Pokémon Red and Green Versions  were first released in Japan.
  Even Nintendo was not initially aware that Shigeki Morimoto had programmed it into the game.
. . .
*  Mew (then spelled ミュー, not ミュウ) was the first Pokémon trademark ever registered ...
   ** ミュウ was registered on August 6, 1999, registration number 4302090. 
* Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; ...
   ** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909.

So, did Nintendo know or not? Do we have a source for them saying they didn't know it was in R/G? - MK (^t/_c) 03:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Trademarking something and actually using it isn't the same. Some companies trademark something, even if they most likely won't use it, in case they ever decide they want to. And you can trademark something without everybody in your company knowing about it. R.A. Hunter Blade 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Nintendo trademarked WaterBlue just in case. I bet a bunch of things are trademarked that aren't used. And, did Satoshi Taijiri know about the creation of Mew? I sure hope so, it's his game. --GEN1KING 12:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't he the one who programmed it in? TTEchidna 19:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes. So he'd know about it. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Pokemon Event at Space Centre Houston

There was a Pokemon Event that was held at Space Centre Houston around the time of Pokemon Sapphire but I don't remember what it was called, though I do remember one thing. I remember that Mew was available at that event through a number of their own GBAs that had a BUNCH of Pokemon to trade into your own game. --JessicaSideways 15:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Move tutor

It says Mew can learn any move tutor move. However, it can't learn Draco Meteor, Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn or Hydro Cannon, exclusive to Dragon-types and the final forms of the Grass-, Fire- and Water-type starters, respectively. What would be the best way to address this in the article? Locrian 07:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

How about: "Mew is notable for its ability to learn every Technical Machine, Hidden Machine and move tutor move (except Draco Meteor, Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon), unique amongst all known Pokémon." --SnorlaxMonster 12:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Locrian 03:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Archive?

This page is getting pretty big. Anyone agree? たかはりい 02:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Cool469 02:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

We usually wait until it hits 100kb. Still got half way to go. —♥ Jello^talk 03:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Trivia Wording

A few trivia points mention this idea that Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon as fact, even though the only evidence we have for this is Pokédex entries (which are usually treated somewhat apocryphally). Would it be alright for me to reword some of these trivia entries? For example, something to the effect of, "Mew is classified as a "New Species" Pokémon, despite the fact that Pokédex entries show that it is believed to be the ancestor of all Pokémon and would therefore be one of the oldest species." Starscream 14:52, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I think it may also be stated in the journals in the Cinnabar mansion, it is considered the ancestor by most people anyway. Vuvuzela2010 16:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

A question

Hey, I got an Aura Sphere mew of the GTS. I don't think he is legit, but he is imported from Hoenn his summary says. He has had pokerus. He is a useful guy, but if he is hacked i don't want him on my team. So I could use some help ----Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth (talk) 16:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't have anything to do with the article. However there is a thread on the forums where you can ask. Werdnae (talk) 18:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Question for the "In Side Games" Section

in the demo of Pokémon Ranger guardian signs you can catch mew. so should it be mentioned in the in side games section?- unsigned comment from Muk205 (talk • contribs)

I had my own question too, Mew can be used as a rental pokemon in Gale of Darkness in "Vs. Battle Mode>>Quick Battle>>>Battle VRS CPU>>>>Ultimate", as well as be fought against in a simulated battle on Battle CD 46 in-game. Should this be mentioned at all in some way?... -Yourlilemogirl 03:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Really only here. --SnorlaxMonster 13:41, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Voice

There's something sort of mistake with Mew's voice in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Compared to the one in "Pokémon the First Movie" Mew has a different voice in "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew" which came out somewhere in 2006, SSBB was realeasd in 2008, but Mew's voice is the same voice from "Pokémon the First Movie" Pgj1997 17:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Not two Mews

Never does it say that the Mew in movie 8 is different from the Mew in movie 1. They are one in the same unless you can prove otherwise. Since Mew was the first Pokemon it is unique. We have never seen more than one together and hence we must go with what's given to us and that's Mew is a single Pokemon with no others of it's species. We must change things to reflect this. Genemaxwell4 05:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

It's two separate until proven otherwise. Yes, nothing says they're different, but nothing too says they're the same. We've never seen more than one of many Pokémon together, like Togetic, but that doesn't mean there's only one of these Pokémon, legendary or otherwise. -tc²₆tc26- 05:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Theory on the Origin Of all Pokémon

I have been thinking on this for a while. Consider the relationship between Mew and Ditto. They both have the same coloration, even their Shiny forms. They are the only Pokémon to learn Transform (Smeargle via Sketch doesn't count).

So: Mew, all alone, creates a gel-like substance and begins to shape Arceus. Arceus creates the 16 elemental Plates, then Mew combines the gel and the Plates with the assistance of Arceus, shaping Dialga (Draco Plate, Iron Plate) Palkia (Draco Plate, Splash Plate), and Giratina (Draco Plate, Spooky Plate). Those 3 shape Time, Space, and Distortion World, respectively.

Mew lastly finishes making rest of the Pokémon, again with the gel and the Plates. Thus, we have the universe and beings to inhabit it. The remaining gel turns into Ditto, keeping the coloring of Mew and its ability to use Transform.

Anyone want to point out the holes in this theory? I know it's not 100% solid, but it might be considered plausible, albeit the fact that there is almost zero evidence to support it. Pkmn Trainer Red 02:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Theory on the Origin Of all Pokémon

I have been thinking on this for a while. Consider the relationship between Mew and Ditto. They both have the same coloration, even their Shiny forms. They are the only Pokémon to learn Transform (Smeargle via Sketch doesn't count).

So: Mew, all alone, creates a gel-like substance and begins to shape Arceus. Arceus creates the 16 elemental Plates, then Mew combines the gel and the Plates with the assistance of Arceus, shaping Dialga (Draco Plate, Iron Plate) Palkia (Draco Plate, Splash Plate), and Giratina (Draco Plate, Spooky Plate). Those 3 shape Time, Space, and Distortion World, respectively.

Mew lastly finishes making rest of the Pokémon, again with the gel and the Plates. Thus, we have the universe and beings to inhabit it. The remaining gel turns into Ditto, keeping the coloring of Mew and its ability to use Transform.

Anyone want to point out the holes in this theory? I know it's not 100% solid, but it might be considered plausible, albeit the fact that there is almost zero evidence to support it. Pkmn Trainer Red 02:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Theory on the Origin Of all Pokémon

I have been thinking on this for a while. Consider the relationship between Mew and Ditto. They both have the same coloration, even their Shiny forms. They are the only Pokémon to learn Transform (Smeargle via Sketch doesn't count).

So: Mew, all alone, creates a gel-like substance and begins to shape Arceus. Arceus creates the 16 elemental Plates, then Mew combines the gel and the Plates with the assistance of Arceus, shaping Dialga (Draco Plate, Iron Plate) Palkia (Draco Plate, Splash Plate), and Giratina (Draco Plate, Spooky Plate). Those 3 shape Time, Space, and Distortion World, respectively.

Mew lastly finishes making rest of the Pokémon, again with the gel and the Plates. Thus, we have the universe and beings to inhabit it. The remaining gel turns into Ditto, keeping the coloring of Mew and its ability to use Transform.

Anyone want to point out the holes in this theory? I know it's not 100% solid, but it might be considered plausible, albeit the fact that there is almost zero evidence to support it. Pkmn Trainer Red 02:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)