Talk:Poké Radar

Shouldn't more information be added to this article about catching shinies with the Radar? - MrWho 17:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, Pokémon Wiki has its own article on Poké Radar chaning... T T Echidna 09:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It said chainning didn't help catch shinys...

http://youtube.com/user/shinyhunter disagrees, but I settled for putting in a citation needed instead. --Scwizard 07:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, it may not. I honestly don't know myself. However I do know that if it's ALWAYS 1/8192, finding 8192 wild Pokémon will likely result in you finding at least one shiny. TTE chidna 10:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

This isn't true. You will have a 1/8,192 chance of a shiny each time, not all together.--William slattery (talk) 10:48, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

You should check this out

http://pokeguide.filb.de/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1187474533&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

I don't understand it but it looks interesting. --Scwizard 00:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Chains

Unless it's just my crappy luck, catching Pokemon doesn't always continue a chain; usually it works only half the time. Similarly, most of my chains consist of three or four Pokemon (five at the most, so far), even with the help of Max Repels, before encountering an entirely new species (ie, four Bagons, then Machop). The article is very misleading in that, unless it's just my own interpretation, it almost guarantees you'll encounter Bagon after Bagon after Bagon until you do something to break the chain rather than chains simply ending on their own like what has happened to me on more than several occasions. I would alter the article myself, but I would like to listen to the comments of others first. // SzayelAporro 21:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The method itself is not wrong - it has been proven through lots of testing. However, I think there are some subtleties to continuing the chain that need to be made more clear. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 21:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

"Formula"

Cam someone please describe the formula for catchin a shiny in words? Im not a super genius.....K P F 18:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Your chances of encountering one are 1 out of 8192. That not hard to understand.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

is that it? im talkin bout using the radar, how it improves the chances! K P F 00:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

By using the radar and building a chain, your odds of finding a shiny pokemon increases to about .5%(1 in 200) at 40 pokemon chained, way better than 1 in 8192. So if you really want shiny pokemon, the radar is the way to go. There are still pokemon that you can't get with the radar though, for those pokemon you're stuck at 1 in 8192.

Theoretically, you couldn't chain over 40 because at 41 the formula divides by 0, and beyond 41 you have negative percentages. However I've seen various accounts of people chaining above 40, so it is possible. Resolver13 21:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the formula caps, so if Nc > 40, Nc = 40 --Phred 01:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Question...

I've seen this come up: "The grassy patch remained silent..." When does that occur? ^ht 14 04:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

When there are no Pokemon who are tracked by the Poke Radar. For example, there are usually 4 patches of grass, usually north, south, east and west of you. However, let's say you're in a small patch of grass and there's no space to place the patches of moving grass. You're screwed. This can occur during chains but doesn't break the chain, all one has to do with walk the 50 steps and redo the Radar. Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links 06:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Formula Origin

I am quite intrigued by this formula: where exactly did it come from? I'm saying this because the results are not even near "round" numbers, though that's not the main reason(if I were a game designer, I'd prefer "non-round" probability numbers, too). I'm just curious: how does one determine such a... complex formula like that? -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 00:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually the bottom number 2621440 = 40 * 2^16 so it is more or less a round number, in computer terms. Not sure about the top number, 14747. Often odd numbers are one less than a round number (e.g. 65535) but I can't see anything with that one. --DisgruntledGoat 22:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Full Japanese name for Poké Radar Key Item

According to the main article, it separates the name into "Poké Tore". Does anyone else believe that the "Tore" in the name is just a shorthand version of "Tracer"?

If the above is correct, the name will then fully extend to "Pocket Monster Tracer".

- HechEff, 2008/01/07, 0655 (+0000 GMT)

True, but it is translated through the games into English as Poké Radar, so this is the title we use. Thanks for your concern, and next time use four tildes (~~~~) to sign your posts. It'll save you typing it out manually. — THE TROM — 19:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

That I understand, but just thought I would mention it considering how many name changes were made during translation. And thank you for the tip regarding signatures. HechEff 22:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Animation

Would it be possible for anyone to get an animation of the Poké Radar in use, and perhaps show the difference between grass shaking normally and grass shaking "more violently"? I don't know how to capture anything, or I'd do it myself. --Crystal Shards 17:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Something Interesting

I was just chaining Machop, when I walked into a patch that had another one, but as I walked into it my repel ran out and the Machop didn't show up. I had to walk off the patch and back on to it for it to work. I thought it should be mentioned. Dexington 14:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah wow, i thought i was the first to find this, but someone a year ago found it apparently. I think it needs to be mentioned. I didn't have to walk off of the patch though, I simply changed my direction then my roselia showed up Malake256 19:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Chaining without the Pokéradar?

I was ev training my speed in bell tower in the morning, so all i ran into was rattata. After going through about 38 of them i found a shiney rattata. Is it possible that the same chaining function comes in if you simply run into the same pokemon over and over? Newops 01:40, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

There's no effect like that with normal battles. It's just a flat 1/8192 chance that any individual Pokémon you encounter is shiny. Obviously the more of a particular Pokémon you encounter the more likely it is that one of them will be shiny, simply because you are taking that same chance repeatedly. Werdnae (talk) 19:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

If you're there at daytime, you will only ever find Rattata. —darklordtrom 01:58, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Tutorial?

Lucas never gave me a tutorial..... when does he give it to you? after you pester him enough? Volcronaperson 19:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I know that this is an old topic, but I have an answer...

Lucas/Dawn only gives you a tutorial after you have received the Eevee from Bebe in Hearthome City. Tk3141 02:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Encounter rate

How does a chain affect the encounter rate? For example, while chaining Gastly in the Eterna Forest it took around 20 times of using the radar in order to find Gastly, but once I had a chain, I encountered about 10 of them in a row. Does having a chain increase the encounter rate of the chained Pokemon? If so, how much?

As an add-on, if this is true, what happens if, in the middle of a chain, the Pokemon stops being available (i.e. something like chaining Hoothoot starting at 2:59 am)? The same question applies for swarms (starting a chain at 11:59 pm and continuing past midnight) and roaming pokemon. If a roaming pokemon is encountered and defeated while using the radar, could a "chain" start? I ask this question with the possibly flawed assumption that (a) Roamers can be found with the Poké Radar, and (b) the encounter rate of a defeated roamer could increase from zero (since the E4 would have to be defeated again) to a finite number (since I'm guessing that the encounter rate increases). Tk3141 18:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I tested this with a swarm in Platinum. At about 11:50, I started a chain of Larvitar, and even after midnight I was still able to find it. I'm going to change this page. Tk3141 12:17, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

The Right Side?

OK, literally EVERY time I move to the right side to go to a shaking patch, the chain gets broken. Is this just bad luck? :( KyuremsIceBlade (talk) 01:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Clarification

"Patches that shake more violently than others are often rarer Pokémon"--I think this sentence needs to be made much clearer. I have no idea what "more violently" means, and from the sound of it, Crystal_Shards doesn't understand what this was supposed to mean, either. There are three grass animations: The grass "glistens" and shakes quickly for a brief period, the grass shakes more slowly for a longer period, or it glistens for a long period (the shiny animation). Which of the first two results in rarer Pokémon, and could someone update the article with a clearer definition of the grass animations? - Xelrog T. Apocalypse (talk) 04:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Poké Radar Shiny Probability Table

MadeFromMetal (talk) 19:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Different music

Has anyone else noticed that in X and Y, the Poké Radar sometimes has different music? I have no idea what it means, and it freaks me out sometime because I feel like I've done something wrong... KYUREM'S ICE BLADE 01:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

All ways to break in Gen VI

What are all the ways to break the chain in X and Y?

Does saving and quitting break the chain? Cclloyd