Talk:James's Mareanie

Spike Cannon and Sludge Bomb?

Serebii lists these moves as Pin Missile and Poison Sting. I know Serebii isn't a reliable source, but I am curious where this differentiation in information comes from and if anyone can/needs to double-check. Nutter Butter (talk) 17:54, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I usually check the moves listed there and there is usually at least one mistake posted there. James called out for Spike Cannon and the Sludge Bomb move looks exactly the same as it was in the previous two series and I don't think Mareanie can learn Mud Shot or Mud Bomb. Playerking95 (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Marieanie's Gender

Meowth said that Marianie found James "Handsome" (Ikemen) on top of being clearly attracted to him. Not saying it absolutely confirms Mareanie's gender, but put a pin in that statement for now. Kohdok (talk) 19:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Uh... no. That confirms absolutely nothing. Don't assume gender because of behavioral patterns, because a guy can act like a girl, and the gender needs to be explicitly stated.--ForceFire 03:58, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Obviously it's female, come on people.. Tditdatdwt (talk) 16:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

This argument has played out on an inordinate amount of talk pages over the years, and it's not constructive to go through the whole song and dance all over again when it's not going to change anything. Bulbapedia has specific standards for determining anime Pokemon genders. Period. Implications, suggestions and "obviousness" don't matter unless those specific standards are met: explicit statement of the gender either in dialogue or by use of Attract. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:49, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Trivia

"Mareanie is James's first Pokemon since Cacnea to affectionately attack its Trainer." I originally wrote it as being Carnivine which is the case as Carnivine was the last to be seen--BigDocFan (talk) 19:16, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Why do people keep getting rid of the "only one that isn't Grass" part of the trivia and citing Chimecho for it? I don't think Chimecho ever actually attacked James. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 20:12, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Chimecho used Wrap on James's eyes when it was excited. So it is the last SINCE Carnivine, not the last non-Grass one. Someone is trying to dodge it being taken down due to this trivium's lack of notability. I'm proceeding to delete it. --BlisseyandtheAquaJets (talk) 20:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

You're right about Wrap. However, policy states drought trivia is notable on anime pages. So as much as I disagree with that policy, the point is technically considered notable. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:29, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think Chimecho wrapping itself around James ever hurt him. Playerking95 (talk) 20:31, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly- I never really saw that as being on the same level as Cacnea's hugs or Carnivine and Victreebel's chomping. Not to mention Chimecho almost never did that. I only recall it doing that in its debut episode, personally. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 21:09, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Chimecho would always cover up his eyes, causing him discomfort. HarmonytheRocketEeveon (talk) 00:18, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

I saw it's debut episode and James's was confused since he wasn't able to see, but he wasn't hurt. I don't know if it did it in other episodes, but if it did, I think I remember that James was annoyed that he couldn't see, probably because he wanted Chimecho to battle. But that may just be myself making that up in my head, if it happened outside of its debut. So again, it didn't hurt James like Victreebel, Cacnea and Carnivine did. Playerking95 (talk) 03:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Am I the only one who feels like this hand-wringing about whether it "hurt" James is irrelevant? The trivium is about them "attacking" him, and wrapping is clearly an attack, so it obviously counts as far as I can tell. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

But it's not really attacking him. A Pokemon can smack its body into another Pokemon, but that doesn't make it Tackle, or Take Down or Double-Edge. So that doesn't mean it was an attack, which means it could just be Chimecho showing affectionately by giving James its version of a hug. So it's not really hurting him at all and James never showed any sign that he was being hurt. Playerking95 (talk) 06:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Attacking someone and using a move on someone aren't the same thing. A Pokémon can still attack a person without using a move (Cacnea's hugs for example). I agree with Pumpkinking0192 that James getting hurt or not isn't relevant, Chimecho still showed its affection by attacking its Trainer. Satsjoe (talk) 13:30, 2 February 2017 (UTC)