Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

Due to special coding in place in the article, the artwork featured on this article will change every year on November 21 and October 15 in celebration of the releases of Gold and Silver in Japan, and Gold and Silver in the United States. This will only affect the artwork shown in the infobox. This changes every year, so when the time comes, here to return to the page and change the display.

Celi Bee

When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea, let's get rid of that. --Theryguy512 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

It looks like Celebi is just based on a generic disco stereotype. Look at this, and compare it to the light and dark green patterns on Celebi:

(Note that that was the only image I could find that showed a front and a back.) Actually, on that note, should there be a mention of it resembling a "disco" stereotype in general?--Celebi96 21:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Because sleveless dresses have no place in contemporary human culture outside of disco. --LaprasBoi 01:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I expect there is no way that they would design or name another Pokémon after a real living person after the Yungeller fiasco. --LaprasBoi 01:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't think of a better way to describe it, okay? I was actually thinking of Miror B. when I posted that, Celebi has arms that look like his wide sleeves. (Yes, I know this is old.)--Celebi96 23:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Quick Question, TCG

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. Zabbethx 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found here, and your card is very likely to be there. Cipher 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Artwork

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? _*tc26_* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -Sketch 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The Kkllnnator サンタクロース 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

That is official art. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Official as in this: Not side art. -Sketch 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

From what I've heard, it is official art done by an official artist just for a side game.--MisterE13 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -Sketch 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

In what way is the artwork inconsistent? The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -Sketch 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on GSDS mentions it.--MisterE13 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -Sketch 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. ♥Chocolate (Merry Christmas!) 16:01 12/21/2008

That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ^Maverick_Nate 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. hfc2X 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Fabu-Vinny. All artwork from Nintendo is official. Nintendo owns the copyrights and the franchise. The artist doesn’t. What’s inconsistent? Not using the same style as the character was originally drawn in from their first appearance, or not using the same artwork from one artist only? What it comes down to is you are splitting hairs. Any artwork officially recognized by Nintendo is acceptable. From a regular person’s point of view any good artwork would be acceptable, but it is a good policy to stay on Nintendo’s good side and use only official images. White Phoenix 07:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Avalibility

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? GuyNamedSean 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — THE TROM — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Shining Celebi?

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? Sivart345 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--RexRacer -talk 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? Sivart345 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)/Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc), PokéPark Celebi, Mitsurin Celebi, and 10 ANNIV Celebi. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that cannot be a legit shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ^{(user · talk · contrib)} 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ^{(user · talk · contrib)} 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Can be, just can't legitimately be at this point in time. Soft resetting in DPPt (and likely HGSS too) will allow a Mystery Gifted Celebi to be shiny. TTEchidna 19:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

If the sprites are in the game, the shiny form exists. Therefore, there are shiny celebis and jirachis. They just have not been able to be legitimately caught yet. Except in the very rare cases of the Japanese bonus discs, but that does prove it is possible no matter how unlikely. White Phoenix 07:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

How is this relevant?

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign user:riggins

Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: ~~~~ — THE TROM — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

True, True but it just stick out at the top being one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. Riggy(>0.0)>

Well we have this on Bulbasaur:

"Bulbasaur is the mascot of Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden." I know it's us but still.--MisterE13 22:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Ya I just noticed and I have to agree. I still stand by my feelings that it's really not relevant BUT since it protain to us I'm afraid to challenge it. I have to say if the admins say it stays then does that mean we have to name the mascot of every fan site? It seems pretty silly seeing as there must be thousands of fan site and it does not make sense at all. Just because we and serebii are at the top doesn't mean we should get special treatment.--Riggy(>0.0)> 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

We have certain criteria for what fansites get real mention such as their own page (see here: Bulbapedia:Project Fandom), theoretically, similar criteria could be used for their mascots. For example, any fansite with an article could have their mascot mentionned.--MisterE13 02:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Well ok but my point is why even point it out in the first place? If your a avid pokemon fan then your already familiar with most of the top pokemon sites. Also it is still very ovisous in it's like saying did you know that pikachu is the mascot to pokemon. If we give fansite trivia then how is it different from adding any thing that's not directly related the pokemon?--Riggy(>0.0)> 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Third line of Pikachu:

"Pikachu is popularly known as the mascot of the Pokémon franchise."--MisterE13 02:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm refering to triva not the whole page

Yes but what I mean is avid pokemon fan go to the top fan sites regularly and will already know about there mascot and any one who would not know would most likely not be a person who cares or is a serous fan. If you don't know about serebii then your not a serous fan because the site is made for up to date news and in depth info about pokemon for people who care about that kind of stuff.

Also if they have there own article then why not have it in it's respective article as it's own trivia instead of in a pokemon article were it's irrelevant to the pokemon's info?--Riggy(>0.0)> 03:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

It is relevant to the Pokemon though. Out of 492 others, that one has been chosen. And I get the picture that you are insinuating we do not have articles or include any information about things that are common knowledge to fanboys. This is absolutely not the case. We strive for completeness, and — as much as the trom hates the almost compulsory trivia sections — this little fact is quite good. — THE TROM — 05:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there were only 251 Pokémon when Celebi was chosen as the mascot. I think it's still worth keeping, but I've moved it to the bottom of the Trivia because it's the least important. The same goes for the "Mudkipz" stuff in Mudkip's Trivia. Taromon777 09:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Add to the main page

For some reason, I am unable to edit any Pokémon pages, so can someone please change this, "Celebi is a green fairy-like creature. Celebi has round, toe-less feet, three-fingered hands and clear wings on its back. Celebi has a round head that comes to a point and sticks upward in the back, large baby-blue eyes with black rings around them and a pair of green antennae that are tipped blue." It should be, "Celebi is a green fairy-like creature. Celebi has round, toe-less feet; three-fingered hands; and clear wings on its back. Celebi has a round head that comes to a point and sticks upward in the back, large baby-blue eyes with black rings around them, and a pair of green antennae that are tipped blue." forgot to signTom 01:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it'll flow better if the comma after "round" is deleted and the other commas in that sentence remain commas. I'll change it, and if someone doesn't like it they can just add semicolons.--Celebi96 22:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Um... regarding the Name Origin...

It's getting a bit out of hand, to say the least. I didn't just go ahead and do it for fear of starting an edit war, but can we please get rid of the Celi Bee nonsense? It's completely irrelevant. I think maybe we could change Celebi's Name Origin section to say something like this:

"There are many possibilities as to where Celebi's name originated, but it is most likely taken from [insert most likely name origins for Celebi here]."

Does anyone have any other suggestions? Taromon777 21:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Game Location

I have a Monster Brain which shows the GS Ball in Crystal (English version). I have tried that and the Teru-sama in the corresponding slot of Gold (English version) and neither work. Wikipedia has stated that the GS Ball will never work in the English version of Crystal because the routines required for the event were left out of all non-Japanese language versions. Unfortunately, they have watered-down their Pokémon entries so much they now only state that it cannot be caught, but not why. I have just confirmed this one last time. Mention has been made in other articles that hackers have successfully caught a celebi in this manner. What do the hackers hack? ROMs? If it only works in ROMs, say so. I don’t think ROM hacks are supposed to count on Bulbapedia anyway, are they? White Phoenix 07:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Protect the Celebi!!!

Why is this page protected now? Is it because of the Celi Bee dispute? --Taromon777 12:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

No, it is because of the iPhone application. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 12:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

All Pokémon pages are being protected right now due to this iPhone application. Minor edit will be made and the Pokémon pages will be back shortly.--Clarky13 13:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Only Shiny Pokemon in Handheld PMD Games

Should it be noted that Celebi is the only Shiny pokemon on the handheld PMD games? Giralga 03:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC) I think so, but wait until someone else says too... SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 16:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC) No, it is. I've played both games and I only found 2 shinys. a golbat and a celebi. And it was THAT celebi. So it is the only plot specific one. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 17:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC) I know this is old, but...YOU FOUND A SHINY IN MYSTERY DUNGEON?????? Please give more details. I didn't think that was possible. Flyingtypefan 22:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

HG/SS event?

any ideas when the event will happen...? hopefully they'll do it on american wi-fi. cause I want to ligitmately trigger and fight the secret Geovanni boss. - unsigned comment from CloudHiro (talk • contribs)

No idea. We'll Bulbanews it when we know. —darklordtrom 06:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Celebi is a Pokemon that makes nature a theme.

Testimony by developer. http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ (2010/7/12)　Sawamular101 09:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

External link?

Why is that there, and since when do we link to videos of hacking to find Pokémon? Is it okay to remove it? ~~ Scyther Be Awesome! _{Bother me here.} 02:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

That shouldn't be there. Removed. --SnorlaxMonster 08:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Trivia. Influence of Shintoism.

nature worship might be influenced from Shintoism. Ilex Forest shrine is remarkably like to the Shinto shrine.

Ilex Forest shrine

Sawamular101 02:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

That belongs on the Ilex Forest shrine page, not here (and you have already put it there). --SnorlaxMonster 08:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my Poor English.

Celebi is a living thing that makes nature a theme. Shintoism is related to nature worship. The place where Celebi exists is similar to the Shinto shrine.

I want to point out the possibility in which Shintoism influences it. When the protection of this page is released, I describe to trivia.Sawamular101 10:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

「Celebi might be related to nature worship of Shintoism.」I will reflect this sentence in the origin. Sawamular101 11:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think that sounds good. Now we have to wait for an admin to add it (or for 1 day, as that is when the lock will expire). --SnorlaxMonster 11:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. Sawamular101 12:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

Celebi learns a move every nine levels after level 10, is this notable. A common occurance among many legendaries - unsigned comment from Stephen Keane (talk • contribs)

Please Explain?

I just saw this

"Celebi is the last Pokémon in the Johto Pokédex and Hoenn Pokédex, although in the latter, Celebi is not shown."

what is the point of the hoenn part? lol it is the last and isn't shown? - unsigned comment from Water type Master (talk • contribs)

All Pokémon in Generation III have a Hoenn Pokédex number, but they are not shown in the Pokédex. If the game is modified so that you can catch Celebi before obtaining the national dex, or if one is received via an event, then it will display a Hoenn Pokédex number. That is what these are. --SnorlaxMonster 10:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed edit?

Can I mention in its opening paragraph at the top of the page "Celebi is widely regarded as the rarest Pokémon of all time, due to the fact not many events and giveaways have been held for it, and [rarely/never] outside Japan" or something?? I think it'd be appropriate, but maybe it's not necessary? Bttsstewart 14:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

That would definitely not go in the opening paragraph. Maybe in the trivia, but even then... --SnorlaxMonster 07:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Why wouldn't it be notable?

Had a recent edit to the trivia undone. I put that Celebi was the first Pokémon to manipulate time, the second being Dialga, but Celebi can only travel through time, not control it. This power belongs to Dialga. If this isn't worth noting, then should the same trivia that was listed in Dialga's trivia should be removed too? Because Celebi was the FIRST Pokémon to have something to do with time so to think that trivia would've been listed in Celebi's trivia too. Several other pages that are related have the same thing listed in their trivia as well. Such as the Latios and Lucario being first and second Pokémon respectively to die in the movies. Explain why worth not noting Celebi being the first to manipulate time (but only travels through it), second being Dialga? (Who controls time) This info is true and not speculation after all. --Brats817 23:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I see someone removed the one in the Dialga trivia too. The thing that said "Dialga was the second Pokémon to manipulate time, first being Celebi" thing. So I guess it wasn't notable in the first place. I would've thought it was notable, but meh. --Brats817 23:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to say that that trivia is not notable. While it is true, it is something which most people would already know and just seems to be trying to fill up the trivia section. --SnorlaxMonster 05:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Guardian Signs doesn't think Celebi is a legendary.

It's the same with all of the other legendary Pokémon: "Legendary Pokémon [bl] attacked!". Discuss. Shepeedy 15:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

It is a bit of an oddity, but it's no reason to change the page. After all, other sources have repeatedly treated Celebi as a legendary. Perhaps it could be noted as trivia? --Andy^P_K^M_N 16:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, what about Japanese version? Maybe it's the matter of Densetsu/Maboroshi? --Maxim 16:59, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Feh, it's a side game anyway Ataro 17:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

It sounds utterly stupid to consider a Pokémon who appears at the very end of a regional Pokédex non-Legendary.

The only interesting post is Maxim's one, so I'll only reply to him/her: I cannot read japanese, but here are the screens, maybe you'll figure out something: Shepeedy 19:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Raikou's says Densetsu(legendary) and Celebi says Mahoroshi(rare?) so it's the same Ataro 19:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be mentioned as trivia ethier on Celebi's page or the Pokemon Ranger Gaurdian Signs page. Pokemaster97 20:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps something should be noted on the Legendary Pokémon page that GS translates maboroshi as Rare, instead of mirage like it says in GenIV? Bluesun 20:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Celebi is called a Maboroshi ("Phantom") Pokémon and Raikou is Densetsu (Legendary). Those are two different terms for Legendaries in Japanese versions (which exists since ever, in the anime too), with Densetsu referring to the lower-class legendaries (like the Trios), although I'm not sure about precise definition. English version has never distinguished those two terms before, they just called all Legendaries "Legendary Pokemon". So, this is the first time when such distinction appears in English version. Can someone make a list which Pokemon are described as "Rare" and which ones are "Legendary" in Ranger 3? That would prove helpful. Also, I'm a he, Sharpeedy. --Maxim 20:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Lol, it looks like you made a fusion with my nickname and Sharpedo XD Btw, I haven't encountered all of the legendary Pokémon in Ranger 3 (I suppose there are a few others, such as Arceus and Lugia), but for now I can say that the following are Legendaries: Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Latios, Latias, Zapdos, Articuno, Moltres, Ho-Oh. The only Rare one is Celebi, and there are also Mewtwo and Regigigas which are owned by the evil team, and don't display that Legendary/Rare thing (so we can't say anything about them, almost until I unlock the rebattle feature, when perhaps they will no longer belong to the evil team). When I have other info, I'll post it here, but if there is someone who's willing to help, he's welcome :D Shepeedy 21:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I unlocked that feature and battled Regigigas and Mewtwo, that are both Legendary. Two days ago I forgot to mention that there are also some special missions with Deoxys, Shaymin, Giratina, Arceus and Heatran, but here in Italy only the first one is already downloadable, and I cannot do it because it's multiplayer only... when the others come out I'll post here. Shepeedy 11:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Phione is neither Legendary nor Rare, so we can say for sure that it's not a legendary Pokémon Shepeedy 15:30, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

That is opinion. There is no proof that it is a legendary or not. Besides, Celebi is a CONFIRMED legend. - 050294 15:37, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I think he meant that Phione appears in GS, with no "Legendary" or "Rare" title, and if so wouldn't be opinion as it would be straight from the game. Bluesun 16:40, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

@050294: It's as Bluesun says: in Guardian Signs, Phione is encountered in the wild just like any other common Pokémon, in fact it says it is a normal Pokémon, neither Legendary nor Rare. It is the final proof of the fact it is not a legendary Pokémon. Shepeedy 12:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

So, we finally have conclusive proof. Phione is not a legendary, as I've been saying all along. Would anyone mind if I went ahead and edited the article accordingly? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 13:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I think that you should. Now it's 2 to 1: Pokémon.com mailbag which has been removed in the update VS HGSS official guide and GS. Make sure that you mention Pokémon.com incorrectly listing it as legendary. --SnorlaxMonster 13:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Will do. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 15:38, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Shaymin is Rare Shepeedy 17:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Lugia, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina are Legendary, Arceus is Rare, so this seems to confirm that event Pokémon are Rare, while the others are Legendary; about Deoxys and also Mew, we can't say for sure if they are Rare, because the game doesn't say anything, since they are found only in the past missions. Shepeedy 13:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Yet another proposed Edit:

In Game Locations for Crystal, shouldn't there be a footnote stating that the method listed only works in Japanese versions? Wouldn't that be need-to-know information? Bejoe95 18:16, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Reply to Name Origin

In my experience with the Japanese Language(orally), "Serubi" 'should' sound like Seravee, which I believe is actually one of the name's of the Angels of the Angel Caste System in Christianity/Celestial Being. The name Seravee and Cerubi are similar in pronounciation. I say this because the correct spelling in Japanese of "Celebi" is "Serubi". This is because the "R" is replaced with "L" and the "V" in English is replaced with "B" in the Japanese when speaking foreign names. Like Seravee, Celebi protects and acts as a guardian of the "Holy" grounds of the forest/garden. I'm saying this is probably The most possible answer to the Origin of Celebi's Name. Not serenity or Celery + bii/beautiful. Take Gardevoir for example, its name is Sir Knight but the spelling is a bit off. Usually the Japanese names and the way they are spelled reflect what they are supposed to sound in English. For example, Piplup's name is Pochama. "B's and "P's" is replaced to reflect Bochama, which is a term that is used with Nobility, such as a Prince or a young male master of the house (or mansion). This reflects it's personality in the anime of being a young arrogant spoiled prince as the Pipulop evolves into an "Emperor" Penguin. Why did Pochama translate into Piplup I have absolutely no idea.....

posted by user: drakke125 - unsigned comment from Drakke125 (talk • contribs)

The only result for "Seravee" on Wikipedia is something from Mobile Suit Gundam 00. Are you thinking of the Seraphim or perhaps something on this list? —Minimiscience 20:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Origin

Celebi looks more to based on Tinkerbell from Peter Pan rather that Dr. Suess' The Lorax. --PikachuMonster (talk) 02:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

In the trivia section:

It says what "Celebi has the most weaknesses of any legendary Pokémon", but now Terrakion have 7 weaknesses as well, with the fairy introduction, so yeah change it :3 - unsigned comment from .Rawr! (talk • contribs)

Done. In the future, you can do this yourself; there's no need to request simple edits like this on the talk page — just major ones. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 07:04, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Celebi's got the Kalos dex symbol but is not in any Kalos Dex

I just noticed that Celebi's got the Kalos dex symbol but is not in any Kalos Dex. It shows up in the national dex, but usually when a Pokémon has the Kalos dex symbol, its because they're in one of the three Kalos dexes. Pokémon who do not appear in the Kalos Dexes usually have the National dex symbol of a Poké Ball. Should this anomaly be mentioned?Yamitora1 (talk) 00:50, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

That's not what the symbol means; the "Kalos dex symbol", the pentagon, represents Pokemon that originate in a Gen 6 game. Note that the event Torchic shows the symbol despite the Torchic family not being in the Kalos dex. The event Celebi is similarly marked. Miles (talk) 00:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

So any Pokémon generated in a gen 6 game has this symbol? And any Pokémon transferred over from a previous gen game will have the Poké Ball symbol?

Because I have for example the gen V starters and they have the "Kalos Symbol" But I believe they were born from Pokémon Bred in gen VI before I received them. On the other hand I have Minccino and Cinccino (which I got through a trade) in my dex, but they have the Poké Ball symbol instead.Yamitora1 (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain that the symbols are indeed based on the game in which an individual Pokemon was generated. For example, if you breed a Minccino from the ones you have with the Poke Ball symbol in XY, it should replace the symbol in the dex with the Kalos one. Miles (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I just verified it did get replaced and upon evolution, Cinccino's also got replaced. I see now, so even if a Poké Ball is there, if at any time a Pokémon generated in/for a Gen VI game is acquired, then the Poké Ball will be replaced with the Pentagon Kalos Symbol. Ok thank you for clearing this up.Yamitora1 (talk) 02:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hold Back

I think from gen 6 and on Hold Back is part of the skillset of Celebi. I got my Pokemon Bank Celebi, erased the move and was then able to "relearn" it. I know this isn't proof enough, but I would want someone to try to get a non-bank-event Celebi to a gen 6 game and attempt to "relearn" Hold Back on the Move Reminder. If someone is able to confirm this leave a note here so someone can either update the front page or close this section. LordHieros (talk) 07:10, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Pokémon can relearn event moves in Gen VI. non-bank event celebi cannot learn hold back. --The Truth aka Relicant 07:19, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Celebi-Celery

Did anyone else notice that Celebi sounds a lot like Celery, and it's a grass-type? - unsigned comment from MarkyShark5 (talk • contribs)

It has no connection to celery other than a similar name and type, so I wouldn't put anything on the article about it. --TheVeryBest 01:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

More on the Name Origin

Celebi's name may be a mis-romanised French phonetic pun. Since Japanese lacks not only a distinctive "l" sound but also a "v" sound, "Celevi" is also a legitimate romanisation. Celevi phonetically approximates "C'est la vie", the French equivalent of the English phrase "That's life". This makes thematic sense both from a figurative standpoint ("That's life" as a phrase referring to something you should have done and didn't, as Celebi is the Time Travel Pokémon), and a literal one (as Celebi is the Guardian of the Forest, and defender of the abundant variety of life within).

In conclusion, Celebi = Celevi = C'est la vie. This sounds fairly plausible to me.

Thoughts? —FlameUser64 (talk) 16:50, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Omega Ruby Pokédex Entry

I have the English Pokédex entry for Celebi in Omega Ruby, but since I don't have the one from Alpha Sapphire yet, I don't think it should be added (everywhere else I've looked, the Pokédex entries from paired versions have always been added at the same time). The entry says: "This Pokémon came from the future by crossing over time. It is thought that so long as Celebi appears, a bright and shining future awaits us." Superbreeder 02:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Blue/Red Rescue Team?

I get it's to save multiple pictures but... I have never even seen let alone even heard of the presence of the Shiny version of Celebi on the first Mystery Dungeon games. The Shiny is purely exclusive to T/D/S as a plot-exclusive Pokemon (and that special episode AND the tag-along in the future). I have not been made aware of its presence in the first MD games, so it is a little misleading to have it flashing on both like that. Pinkolol16 (talk) 06:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

So... we gonna do something about this or no? I don't think we want to mislead when it comes to PMD1; Shiny Celebi makes no appearance in that game. Pinkolol16 (talk) 10:47, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Wrong Japanese Name Breakdown

The Japanese breakdown of Celebi's name is translated incorrectly, and improperly labeled. It's Japanese name is written as セレビイ (with a small イ), but it has the English "Celebi" under it's name. This is very misleading, as the sound "Ce" or even the letter/sound "C" does not appear in the Japanese language. The "L" sound/letter also does not exist in Japanese. The correct pronunciation/romaji is "Serebii"... セ=se, レ=re, ビ=bi, イ=i... Japanese character sounds -never- change their pronunciations under any circumstances, so to showcase it as such is highly inaccurate. Asiyd (talk) 05:11, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

It's the trademarked Japanese romanization seen on merchandise and what not. The "Serebii" translation is mentioned, just hover your mouse over the translation on the infobox and a small box should appear with the "Serebii" translation.--ForceFire 05:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't that be listed under trivia then? It was my impression that the name section for romaji was for direct translation and pronunciation... regardless of official publishing, it is still pronounced as 'Serebii', due to how the Japanese language works. Asiyd (talk) 16:38, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Unlike Wikipedia, we go with what the first party source has it as, rather than a third party.--ForceFire 04:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

.... Wow, okay, you're kinda rude. Going by your rudeness, I do believe I'm gonna respond in kind. Unlike Wikipedia, I guess you guys don't care about accuracy, then. Go take a Japanese language course. Asiyd (talk) 05:38, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Apologies if that sounded rude, that wasn't my intention. Using what the official product uses is being accurate. Why would we not use what the creators intended the romanization to be? We're going to trust Pokemon.com more than a random news site. The transliteration is mentioned, but that does not mean it is the official name that Game Freak uses.--ForceFire 07:04, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Something that's kind of being glossed over here: the format of that parenthetical is not strictly meant for romanizations (or pronunciations), it's meant for translations. See, for instance, Potion, which says "Potion (Japanese: キズぐすり Wound medicine)", not "Potion (Japanese: キズぐすり kizugusuri)". In the case of Pokemon names, the trademarked romanization is a far more proper "translation" than any strict romanization. For something like Crustle, for instance, Iwapalace is much better "translated"/more illuminating than iwaparesu. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:12, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Deoxys is no longer the only Mythical Pokémon that isn't event exclusive!

With the release of Pokémon Crystal on Virtual Console, Celebi, along with the GS Ball, is now obtainable in-game. OmegaSilver (talk) 23:30, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Game Location for Gen 7

Thoughts on editing the Gen VII Game Location section to list both Event and Transfer from Virtual Console Crystal? Teelo (talk) 05:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Our standards for location sections are that direct availability > indirect availability via evolution > event availability > transfer from past generations, such that availability in any category means we don't list lower categories. Otherwise, the sections would balloon immensely, with almost every Pokemon getting "Transfer from such-and-such game" listed numerous times. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:20, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Where does Trade fit into that chain? I often see "Trade, Event". Teelo (talk) 06:32, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Also, looking at Deoxys I see that "Event, Transfer" has been done before. "Poké Transfer, Event". "Pal Park, Event".