Talk:Cerulean Cave

After I beat the Elite Four and then red (in LeafGreen) the character guarding the cave still said that I couldn't enter it. Is there something else I must do? --Bentendo 21:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Get 60 Pokémon in the Kanto Dex. Get the National Dex from Oak. Go to the Sevii Islands. Get the Ruby. Beat Team Rocket one last time. Get the Sapphire. Activate trading with RSE with Celio's machine. Go get Mewtwo. --TTEchidna 22:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Name Debut

Is it possible for someone to check a Town Map (the actual item) in Red and Blue while in the cave to see the name that appears there? I personally know from doing such a task in Yellow that the ingame name was "Cerulean Cave" there, but I don't know whether or not it's the same for Yellow's predecessors...--Shiningpikablu252 22:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

It's "Cerulean Cave" in Red/Blue. Ultraflame 22:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Then it appears that "Unknown Dungeon" was the name used in print material to hide the final surprise. After all, you really don't want people knowing the last location in the game right at the start, do you? --Shiningpikablu252 01:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Mewtwo confirmed for HG/SS

Source

Pokemon Sunday aired a little while ago and confirmed Mewtwo will appear in HG/SS but they didn't say where it would appear though. But it could be possible it could be in the Cerulean Cave if it reopened in Generation IV. Would it be ok if I put "IV?" on the generations tab in the info box on the top right of the page? If not, that's ok. --Dialgafan1 02:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, the Mewtwo info is false. --Dialgafan1 22:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Besrerk Gene?

OK, so the cave is still there in HG/SS, but what about the Berserk Gene? Is there still a way to get it in the remakes?Morgil27 23:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Serebii's HGSS item list doesn't have the Berserk Gene so I doubt it. --TintedLens 03:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Besides, the item would be broken if it were to have been included with the same effect as in Generation II. Equip it on a Pokémon with Own Tempo, and it'd basically get a free Attack boost just for coming in with no side effects. Purugly and Lickilicky, and to a slightly lesser degree Slowpoke's evolved forms, could become physical beasts right out of the gate. Even Smeargle would benefit, and its Attack isn't anything to write home about.

(Just for the record, it could also combo with Tangled Feet, but would have limited use since the confusion would wear off eventually, shutting off the effect of the ability.) --Shiningpikablu252 02:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey, does anybody know what happens to make Mewtwo appear in Gen. IV?

The headline is my question. -The Marks

This page needs expansion

Mulitple items are missng on the listing for HeartGold/SoulSilver. TM24, as well as the Electrizer are marked to be in here, yet their specific location isn't. The only reason I ask is cause my strongest guy is Electabuzz and I'd really like to get the Electrizer before Electivire learns Giga Impact. If anyone could even let me know where it is, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks. --Merc354 09:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't doubt that the page is outdated. We are still missing a huge amount of HGSS information (srsly, guys, edit the pages!). Perhaps you could look around the cave, find out where it is yourself and then put the information on the wiki? I'm sure that would help other people out. —darklordtrom 10:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Kinda hard to do when you don't know how to do the fancy stuff here on the wiki. Pretty much the reason why we're saying it here so that the people who DO know how to do it can input the data. I'm trying to find out where in Cerulean Cave TM24 can be found, but of course, it's not in here yet. --Lustre 02:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I added in a few items that I found on my way through to Mewtwo. Heres a few tips to do stuff on here, look at other codes on the same page and copy/paste it, it'll come out exactly the same (unless there is something you missed off and didn't know about it) Also, the Electrizer is in the basement right above Mewtwo in the Rock Climb section. --Sam6555 17:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Poliwhirl?

I've counted 9 Gyarados and upwards of 20 Poliwags from Super Rod fishing in the water closest to the cave entrance. I'm questioning the accuracy of "30% Poliwhirl". Zeek Aran 06:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

From 'whirl's page "and Cerulean Cave (Surfing)" -_- Well thanks. Maybe that should be changed. Zeek Aran 06:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

They aren't there either. I'm being trolled. Zeek Aran 06:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes the game just hates you. TTEchidna 05:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It is not accurate, no. Firstly, it depends on the time of day (like for e.g. Corsola on Johto Route 34). The in-game Pokédex lists Cerulean Cave as one of the Kanto locations for Poliwhirl, but only during the morning and day, not at night. Even that aside, the percentages seem inaccurate. I've used the Super Rod at this location 100 times during morning, day and night and I found:

1. morning: 42 Poliwag, 25 Poliwhirl and 33 Gyarados
2. day: 36 Poliwag, 33 Poliwhirl and 31 Gyarados
3. night: 69 Poliwag, no Poliwhirl and 31 Gyrados

This differs significantly from what it currently says in the article, but my figures are not statistically accurate enough, so what now? Elsewhere on this talk page someone mentions "wild data extractors". I don't know who they are, but could they look into this? PlusleFan 11:17, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Japanese version Pokémon?

So I'm playing my copy of Green right now, and filling the Pokédex. I tried to use Super Rod in the first room to get Slowbro and Seadra, but all I could fish was like 18 Kingler (a Pokémon which isn't even listed here), and about 2 Seaking... So I suppose the Pokémon spread isn't exactly the same in the Japanese version. Is there a way to correct this or something? I also haven't met any Golbat in the same room on the ground (which appears 25% of the time according to this page), but I did meet several Hypno, Magneton, Venomoth, and a Sandslash. --Krisi 18:49, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

You'll have to make a new section for Green using the previously established tables as your style guideline. Have fun? :D —darklordtrom 11:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

An entirely new table, or just a new column in the old one? Also, how do I get to know the exact percentages some Pokémon come at? Krisi 16:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

And before anyone makes a new template for JP Green, shouldn't someone make sure JP Red has the same Pokémon as U.S. Red? If we're wrong about Green, we could be wrong about a lot more. --Andy^P_K^M_N 18:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the Japanese Red is to the English Red what Green is to the English Blue. So the two Red versions have the same Pokémon, except for some little changes that our Blue also has from the Japanese Green. I'm not sure, but I've bought a Japanese Red from eBay already, and when it arrives, I'll check. Krisi 18:53, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

JP green is same as US blue. Only the JP blue is different. -Pokeant 06:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

No, they are not the same. For one, the Pokémon in the Cerulean Cave are different. I suppose that there may be other places with slightly different Pokémon, too. Also, the graphics and the entire layout of the Cerulean Cave are different. I've also noticed that the intro has probably different sound effects. Krisi 16:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

But the wild Pokémon between the two should be the same. If one of our wild data extractors could check if the wild Pokémon (specifically in Cerulean Cave) vary between JP Green and International Blue, that would be nice. --SnorlaxMonster 07:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Rock Smash in Gen IV

I'm noticing a missing listing in the Gen IV pokemon list for Cerulean Cave. In particular, it doesn't list Rock Smash pokemon.

I know, at minimum, that there's Geodude to be found through Rock Smash. I'd expect that you can also find Graveler, based on the fact that both Geodude and Graveler were able to be found via Rock Smash in Cerulean Cave in Gen III. Didn't want to just add it directly, without having done further checking, and don't have the patience to do it myself, right now. Aielyn 16:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't actually think you can get geodude or graveler in 2F. I've checked on both Psypokes and Serebii and both don't mention it. Cafeolay (talk) 01:11, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Ditto level problem?

I just encountered a level 40 Ditto in 1F of Cerulean Cave in HG, but the page says they can only be level 39. - unsigned comment from Ipodboqi (talk • contribs)

Well then, change it. Anyone can edit as long as you have an account. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:48, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Collision.

Can someone still be able to check if this is an actual reproducable glitch or just my game? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:13, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Unknown Dungeon in Kalos.

I want to create a page for the Unknown Dungeon in the Pokemon Village in X/Y. I've noticed that there's a Unknown Dungeon (Mystery Dungeon) but given the circumstances I would rather changed Unknown Dungeon from a redirect to the Kalos page and put at the top of this page that it is also known as the Unknown Dungeon.

Should I create the page as Unknown Dungeon (Kalos) or somesuch or use the redirect. -Stars _talk 02:33, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Before using the redirect, the disambiguation or anything of the sort, it would be best to have the article created in a subpage of yours (Example: User:From Beyond the Stars/Unknown Dungeon (Kalos)). Uh, and... this has nothing to do with Cerulean Cave. Masatoshi talk 02:38, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

It is relevant because "Unknown Dungeon" redirects here, because it was an alternate name for it in Generation I and is still in common use for fans who grew up with those games. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Well, anyways, it's better to create the article on a subpage and propose it for mainspacing. Masatoshi talk 03:06, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Just add a section for the Unknown Dungeon on the Pokémon Village page. It's not relevant enough for its own page as there are no other Pokémon there aside from Mewtwo. As for a redirect, how about a disambiguous page instead? ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 03:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

File:Mewtwo FRLG.png

This file is incorrectly labeled as a screenshot of HeartGold and SoulSilver. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Mewtwo_FRLG.png -ArtistKyurem (talk) 02:29, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Where is it labeled as such? Everywhere I can find has it correctly labeled as FRLG. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:21, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

He was talking about the image having the tag say it is a picture from HGSS. He should've brought it up on the archives. Either way, I've already fixed this.--ForceFire 05:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Let's Go items

Apparently, the items on 2F are random and regenerate randomly as well. Just wanted to share this info. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:59, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Misinforming levels

In Let's Go Eevee, in 2F, I found level 57 Zubat and Golbat, though it is implied that they cap at level 56.

Unknown Dungeon name

I know this is kind of an old discussion, but I'm pretty sure the name does appear in-game, albeit only in certain copies. I'm almost certain there's a difference between launch copies and later ones, although as far as I can tell, the only change ever done to the games was the name of this cave, considering these games have no revisions to ever been documented. I have an English Pokémon Blue cartridge with a white ESRB logo on it (DMG-APEE-USA), and the Town Map shows "Cerulean Cave". Copies with a black ESRB logo have a different id (DMG-APEE-USA-1), and while they may actually be revisions and have undocumented differences, I don't think they necessarily have a differently named Cerulean Cave. However, I have a Spanish Pokémon Red copy (DMG-APAS-ESP), and it shows "Mazmorra Rara" (Unknown Dungeon) in the Town Map. As most people would know, the international versions until Gen IV were always localized using the English script as a base, so it's safe to assume the English script used "Unknown Dungeon" in the finalized version, but was eventually changed afterwards for one reason or another. Someone who bought the game at launch would need to corroborate this. hfc2X 14:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)