Talk:Altaria (Pokémon)
Does anyone know the meaning of Altaria's Japanese name?
>I'm pretty sure it's named after a star in the Draco constilation. I know it's an astrological reference, anyways.
- Zeta
Location
Where is Altaria located in ruby/sapphire and beyond? I don't have any of them but D/P and this won't tell me where. Tyrogue
- You just have to be patient. Bulbapedia relies on voluntary work and we already know where there are gaps. As it happens, I was working through the Game locations before my unexpected absense in the last week but now that I'm back I'll get back into them. --FabuVinny T-C-S 10:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
- To tide you over, I think they can be found in the Sky Pillar, though very rarely. --DarkfireTaimatsu 19:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought they were in Sky Pillar... Tyrogue
Another name theory
Could the "Alt" in Altaria's name possibly refer to the word "altitude", as in a high altitude. It does make sense, being a Flying-type. -- Nebula 00:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Altaria-based of a Phoenix?
It is,after all,a Dragon-type Pokémon and can learn moves such as Flamethrower and Fire Blast(even though many other non-Fire-types do too) If I recall correctly this was even once written in the Origin section!
Albatross?
...er? I didn't want to just change it, but it seems rather unfounded that it would be based on 'Albatross'. Just because it's name starts with the same two letters and it's a bird doesn't mean it's related. They've got nothing else in common. -absolutely nothing-. At least nothing I can see. The other reasons make a lot more sense. [[Derian]] 17:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Stats
Can someone please add the Stats heading above Base Stats? -_- I made an account to fix it, but I can't edit it. Amec
- Done and done. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Trivia about Special Defense
Doesn't Giratina altered form have a higher special defense? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 06:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Draco Meteor
Didn't Druddigon also use Draco Meteor in BW030?SONICバリヤ 15:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yep. However, the page isn't protected, so you could have removed the trivia yourself.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 15:41, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Anyone find it ironic how Altaria is a power rock band and Altaria looks really calm? Anyone? Origami is math for the hands. -Martin Grant, MathPath 23:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Altaria's name's meaning.
In Portuguese, Ária means melody. Well, it might be related to Altaria somehow. Mennace 05:09, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Trivia
"Altaria, Vibrava, and Kingdra are the only Dragon-type Pokémon whose pre-evolved forms are not Dragon-type." Surely that's not notable as there's three different Pokémon like that? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Are we seriously not going to mention the Finnish power metal band.
We had this info a few years ago, why'd we delete it? - unsigned comment from Mpcamel1729 (talk • contribs)
- I don't know, although it is likely that they removed it on the grounds that it wasn't notable and just a coincidence, as there is also a rail service called Altaria. --NOBODY (talk) 00:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Altaria's Japanese Name
Far be it from me to know how to spell Japanese, but other Pokémon sites, and even Wikipedia, list Altaria's Japanese name as "Chiruttasu" (or some other transliterated form), rather than Tyltalis. According to Wikipedia, Tyltalis was its old Japanese name, before being changed.
Is there someone who can read Japanese to translate Altaria's Japanese name, to see if that it correct? Xolotl (talk) 09:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- By what I'm seeing, Wikipedia appears to agree with the names on this page. I can even highlight them and do a search on both pages and everything matches fine. Tiddlywinks (talk) 09:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well Wikipedia says, completely: Altaria (チルタリス Chirutarisu?, Tyltalis in original Japanese language versions). Which means that Tyltalis isn't its name any more. Also, the Japanese characters on the Bulbapedia page ends in ス, which, if you also look at Zangoose's name, is the sound "su", and not "is/lis" - which is what it should be if Altaria's Japanese name was Tyltalis. Xolotl (talk) 12:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- First of all, both Chirutarisu and Tyltalis are correct. Chirutarisu is based on the Hepburn romanization system, while Tyltalis is the trademarked romanization. The one that Bulbapedia uses is the trademarked name. Second, Wikipedia is not an official source. Besides, there was no indication in that text that the name has been changed. Wikipedia only listed both the literal transliteration and trademarked name. --超龍「Chao」 13:11, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Adding to that, Wikipedia isn't claiming Tyltalis is its old name (I swear to you on that); you're misinterpreting what "original" means. You're assuming it means "prior", but it meant to be "base", as in the "version of origin" compared to every language it was translated into after the Japanese version was produced. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 13:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not doubting that it isn't called Tyltalis, anymore, but the Japanese Characters do not say Tyltalis, even though it is the correct translation - wouldn't it be prudent to give the literal translation of the Japanese Name, since literal translations are given for most other things, like moves. Xolotl (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- It already is given, in a tooltip. Mouse over the Japanese kana. This is the standardized form on all Pokemon articles for giving the literal transliterations. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:55, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not doubting that it isn't called Tyltalis, anymore, but the Japanese Characters do not say Tyltalis, even though it is the correct translation - wouldn't it be prudent to give the literal translation of the Japanese Name, since literal translations are given for most other things, like moves. Xolotl (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Adding to that, Wikipedia isn't claiming Tyltalis is its old name (I swear to you on that); you're misinterpreting what "original" means. You're assuming it means "prior", but it meant to be "base", as in the "version of origin" compared to every language it was translated into after the Japanese version was produced. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 13:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- First of all, both Chirutarisu and Tyltalis are correct. Chirutarisu is based on the Hepburn romanization system, while Tyltalis is the trademarked romanization. The one that Bulbapedia uses is the trademarked name. Second, Wikipedia is not an official source. Besides, there was no indication in that text that the name has been changed. Wikipedia only listed both the literal transliteration and trademarked name. --超龍「Chao」 13:11, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well Wikipedia says, completely: Altaria (チルタリス Chirutarisu?, Tyltalis in original Japanese language versions). Which means that Tyltalis isn't its name any more. Also, the Japanese characters on the Bulbapedia page ends in ス, which, if you also look at Zangoose's name, is the sound "su", and not "is/lis" - which is what it should be if Altaria's Japanese name was Tyltalis. Xolotl (talk) 12:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Mega Biology
I like writing biology entries and one of my favorite Pokemon just got a new design. Will edit this if any new features come to light.
"Mega Altaria has more extensive cloud-like plumage, with a large, fluffy mass extending from its back. Its cottony wings are more distinct than in its base form, and its blue belly is now exposed. Additional fluff surrounds its neck like a collar, and its head is adorned with a hat-like crest. A single, small feather curls out from its forehead, though its facial features are unchanged. Its tail feathers have grown into a long, wavy streamer, with three longer central plumes." ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 11:20, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
First Pokemon to completely change its first evo typing?
Swablu is Normal/Flying, Altaria Dragon/Flying and its Mega is Dragon/Fairy, so Mega Altaria doesn't have either typing of its first form, perhaps worthy of mention.--Elveonora (talk) 13:41, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- You could say the same of each Eeveelution. They all discard Normal-type for another type. Also, it seems bit stretched, as Altaria itself changes only secondary type.Eridanus (talk) 13:48, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- Azurill also used to do this, although it doesn't anymore now that it is part Fairy-type. --SnorlaxMonster 13:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think Eevolutions are a good example, since they are intended to have different typing because of unstable DNA and what not. Azurill is a valid example, but it is no longer true as of Gen VI.
- Even then, in terms of dual-type Pokemon no such change has occurred before, to my knowledge anyway. Mega Altaria is the first dual-type Pokemon not to share at least a single typing with its first form.--Elveonora (talk) 14:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if Mega Evolution can be considered as Pokemon's stage, rather as other form... Asmod96 (talk) 15:16, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- In-universe rationale like "unstable DNA" doesn't matter. As for being the first dual-type, IMO that sort of qualification is of dubious notability. And the fact that it's a temporary thing during Mega Evolution also sours me on the overall point. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:19, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm of the opinion that the more qualifiers you need to add to trivia, the less notable it probably is. Especially when that qualification ends up otherwise getting rid of Pokemon that would make that trivia untrue. It shouldn't be added imo. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 17:35, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- In-universe rationale like "unstable DNA" doesn't matter. As for being the first dual-type, IMO that sort of qualification is of dubious notability. And the fact that it's a temporary thing during Mega Evolution also sours me on the overall point. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:19, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if Mega Evolution can be considered as Pokemon's stage, rather as other form... Asmod96 (talk) 15:16, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- Azurill also used to do this, although it doesn't anymore now that it is part Fairy-type. --SnorlaxMonster 13:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Mega Altaria
Can someone who has access to editing this page put in the Trivia section that Mega Altaria is the only Dragon-type Pokémon that is immune to Dragon-type attacks? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 17:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- The page is only protected to the autoconfirmed level. You should be able to edit the page. --Pokemaster97 17:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ok. Thanks. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 19:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Ring Target
Since the Altarianite can't be removed from its correct holder, Altaria, itself, It can't eventually hold a ring target. Is it impossible that it can hold one or is it possible? --HoennLove200 (talk) 16:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- You can remove Mega Stones the same way you can remove anything else. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Pikachu Bros., HoennLove200 is referring to in battle. Since it is a Mega, it cannot hold a Ring Target. The only possibility that the immunity can be exposed is if a Ditto has Transformed to Mega Altaria or has the Ability Imposter and has the Ring Target as a held item. ht14 19:02, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Possible Namesake for both Tyltalis and Altaria
It is possible that Altaria in both Japanese and English is named after a stars in the same constellation, Epsilon Draconis was "Tyl" (Which is already noted in the wiki) and Delta Draconis was "Altais" according to Wikipedia (Which is something that I didn't find in the Wiki even though it COULD be true) There is also a good reason for this: to further connect the pokemon with the Dragon type. (Is this way good Landfish7?) - unsigned comment from Blaxe (talk • contribs)
