Talk:Paul

Another Shinji

There's another Shinji in the Pokémon Anime. He's the Hitmonlee Trainer from Legend Of Raikou movie. He was unnamed in English Version. Should there be a disambiguation? And it's pretty possible that Hitmonlee Shinji's dub name is Sean because Chronicles characters's names are taken from the trainers from GSC and there is Cooltrainer named Shinji in the game, and his name Sean in English Version. The same rule was used for Kenta/Jimmy, Jun'ichi/Vincent, Takumi/Jared, Tsuyoshi/Corey and every other character from Chronicles who shared the name with trainer in GSC (except Tsutomu/Georgio, for some reason). --Maxim 18:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It makes sense, but I'm against it. Recently, May was turned into a disambig page. I've since been going through every article linking to the correct one. I suppose with Shinji it wouldn't be that big of a deal, since he hasn't been in that many episodes, but it's such a time-consuming task to do that. --PAK Man 22:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

So if it is to be done, do it now rather than having a harder job later.

There's also Lake Shinji/Trust. --FabuVinny 20:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe better to wait for English DP. When English DP game and anime is released, all things and character will get own English named and disambig won't be needed anymore. --Maxim 20:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. By the time the English DP comes out, the Japanese names won't really matter anymore. --PAK Man 20:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, now with Shinji Miyazaki, shouldn't there be a disambig like there is with Satoshi? --TTEchidna 06:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, wait until Shinji's US name is revealed. When it'll be, the disambiguation won't be needed anymore. --Maxim 14:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

But Satoshi is Ash's Japanese name, and Shigeru is Gary's... --TTEchidna 20:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

But Satoshi and Shigeru are Pokémon Anime's very main protagonists and Satoshi Tajiri and Shigeru Miyamoto are most well-known people related to Pokémon. And the disambiguation was also needed because of Satoshi and Shigeru in Zensho. I'm not sure if it is so much needed for Shinji, as he isn't as important as Satoshi & Shigeru, as well as Miyazaki is not as important as are Tajiri & Miyamoto. I don't support this disambig. --Maxim 21:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Shinji is just as important as Shigeru. --FabuVinny 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Weavile & Torterra????

I saw the trailer for the DP040, and it looked like Paul was battling against Cynthia with a Weavile and a Torterra. Are these his new Pokémon? -- Kenji Girl 19:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Since it's only the preview, I would wait until the episode airs to list them as his. --PAK Man ^Talk 20:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

They are both his old Pokémon and one thing notable is that Torterra is his starter Pokémon, not Chimchar.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm I know that now. I made that comment like six months ago. Before the episode premiered. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 09:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

His age?

Where does it say Paul is 11? He doesn't look like or sound like he's 11. - Jonah 15:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It's also explained that he is actually an experienced Trainer wgo travelled over Kanto, Johto and Hoenn. So, how old was he when he started his first Pokémon Journey? He looks rather like 14. I really hate how everyone underages characters. --Maxim 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you may be right here. He travels through three regions (presumeably on foot, as we've seen nothing for him to ride or Fly on...) and competes in their tournaments (which are yearly, IIRC) and he's only 11? Someone with a decent grasp of jaspanese needs to have a long talk with Pokeani. - Alan

then what about ash's age didn't he do the same thing-Sonicflames

Like has been said: They never told us anything. Paul has no official age, either. He could be 10, too, even if he sounds a lot older. TTEchidna 05:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Second Son

Paul's Japanese name is Shinji and it means faithful second son right? Well its been implied that Silver is Giovanni's son and similarities have been shown between Paul and Silver right? So what if Paul is Giovanni's second son? but that's crazy right?

Paul/Brandon

Was it really needed to lose that bit? It was in the Trivia section and might be worth keeping in mind in case it turns out be true. Or gets proven false, whichever comes first. - Cassius335

No! Because encyclopedic article isn't place for stupid fanspeculations. Paul can be ANYONE's son. Tell me, why Brandon? We don't care about fanwanks. And sign your comments! --Maxim 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, sorry, I forgot. As for 'Why Brandon'... well, look at them. Compared to the likes of Brock and his mother, they're practically identical, Paul's just shorter. - Cassius335

Fearow

Didn't paul try to capture a fearow in an episode? And by the end we didn't know what had happened to it? So why don't we put it under unconfirmed? idk how to make it the shiny green onejapaneese name was luckyan espeonSLE_Amanmy favorite pokemon

Nugai

I agree with whoever took out the bit about Paul being referred to as "Nugai" by Pie. I'm highly critical of the justification, "It was important piece of fanon history." His name was revealed shortly after his first appearance in Coro Coro. One American on one message board calling him Nugai, a made-up confusingly Japanese-sounding name, for a couple weeks doesn't really deserve a mention in this article, I don't think, even if it was an admin who coined the term. --Greengiant 21:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It was hardly just Pie calling him that. Everyone did until his real name was revealed. So yes, that is a fact worth noting about Paul. Plus, if someone came across the name when looking at stuff from that time and decided to use Bulbapedia to see who it was, they are currrently able to find the information on it. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 21:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let the name stay there but why do we need to keep who coined it as well? If a person was reading this article, does it matter to him who coined the name? File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 22:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It does to posterity. Allow the guy his small slice of history, will ya? Cassius335 22:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Pie is female. Anyway, I really don't see what the problem is. It's one sentence in the trivia section and it certainly isn't worth having a seperate "fanon terminology" article. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 00:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The opening section

...is a bit harsh now. Has Paul actually stated that bonding with Pokémon would "make them weak and useless"? Being friends is Pokémon is obviously not his style but calling him arrogant for that seems a bit much. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 23:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

He said that in DP040. Well, he said slackers but what's the difference?. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 09:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is a difference in that. I still don't think he can be described as arrogant, though. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 16:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Do you think we should create a disambiguation page for Paul? Because that is the last name of one of the voice actors, Ed Paul. Or should we put one of those warnings at the top of the page like we have for Ash and the Sacred ash? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm for warning. I don't like making disambigs for the sake of making disambigs. It's not needed. --Maxim 11:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Turtle

Does it really matter if that Gary and Paul both started with Turtles? --DarthCookieMonster 15:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia never really matters.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. Cassius335 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia is trivia. It's just funny facts. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The Pokémon for Paul to replace Chimchar

Paul said he will catch another powerful fire-type Pokémon after releasing Chimchar in DP052.So what will be that Pokémon?I strongly believe that it is a Magmortar because it is the most powerful fire-type Pokémon in Sinnoh apart from Heatran.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you know he said he would capture another Fire-type? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 09:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I watched the Japanese version of that episode.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you speak Japanese? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 09:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

No, hear only.-Billy4b2004 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Paul refusing the Soothe Bell

Couldn't we mention in Trivia that Paul giving away the Soothe Bell means he doesn't care about getting his Pokémon to warm up to him?

In the games, Soothe Bells are use to get a Pokémon to like you faster. I figured that this was the anime's way of saying that Paul doesn't care whether his Pokémon like him or not. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Brother??

Seriously? Where did you get this info from? Just curious.

Wonder if he'll be nice. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It's on TV Tokyo. And given that he is a Pokémon Breeder, he is bound to be nicer than Paul. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Reiji is it? How much you wanna bet his dub name will be "Reggie"? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't. From Shinji to Paul. From Reiji to Saul or something^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 05:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Shinji sounds like the Japanese word for Pearl so was only named Paul to be a play off of "Pearl". Reiji is probably not going to be a play off of anything. They'll probably just go with the closest English name like Kengo to Kenny or Nozomi to Zoey. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism to the Wikipedia article

Someone keeps putting Pete Capella in parenthesis although we kno Rebolledo does the voice so PAKMan will you block that person ? Livinlarge18 12:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, I have no control over what goes on at Wikipedia. Let one of their administrators know. --PAK Man ^Talk 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea, we and Wikipedia are two totally different websites. --Theryguy512 20:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Rowan, We Have A Problem.

Viewers of the most recent episode are repoting Paul beating Maylene with a Magmar. While the "Paul gets Magmortar" crowd grin like idiots, there's a slight glitch: Magmar would push Paul's team to 7 members on hand, which is obviously impossible. So how the heck do we configure the "On hand" section now? - Cassius335 12:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On the latest episode Paul reveals that he has a Magmar, now one problem, do we have to show Seven Pokémon on his team? Since we can't say which one he released, if ever. Ej92 12:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it's Ursaring or Weavile.-Billy4b2004 12:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dammit, Ej92! I already started a section about this. - Cassius335 13:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops! sorry... Ej92 06:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd say Ursaring because he's never used it in battle before.

He did use it in a battle against TR......-Billy4b2004 15:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Configuring the On hand section; what about adding a row with Magmar in it and then stating that as of DP066, we know Paul has a Magmar, but it is unknown which Pokémon it replaced? --PAK Man ^Talk 15:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice thought, looks silly. - Cassius335 17:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, how about that? - Cassius335 17:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Status Unknown!!! jeez, put it there cuz its so confusing!! KPF30px 30px 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Huh, it seems like the question is answered. According to people at Bulbagarden, Reji's Electabuzz... is really Shinji's, left in his brothers care. - Cassius335 17:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

That's correct, the Eleboo at Reiji's house is actually Shinji's. The template and Shinji's Eleboo article has already been updated with this. Matkin22 18:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Personality/Pokemon Team Connection

Everyone knows how Paul has a dark peronality, right? Well he has Gliscor and Weavile, who are formed when Gligar and Sneasel evolve holding Razor Fang/Claw respectively... at night! WHEN IT'S DARK! Both Gliscor and Weavile also have an evil, deceiving/mischievous personality! Anyone see where I am going with this?--KukiTalk 21:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Completely into fanwank? Paul isn't particularly dark, just unemotional. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 21:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

K--KukiTalk 21:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Paul's Gliscor is GROUND-Flying, not DARK-Flying. Maybe it's a nocturnal Pokémon?BlueJirachi 19:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's blame it on Mesprit again...Taviource 01:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure...Touch Mesprit and you lose all your emotions. Yeah, right like that actually happened with Paul. BlueJirachi 01:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you never know. After all, he is Paul.Taviource 01:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...To be honest, I believed Cyrus lost his emotions by touching Mesprit in the game, when he was younger. The resemblance in personality with Paul's is uncanny, though. Still, Paul's disposition follows Silver's. I doubt he encountered Mesprit. BlueJirachi 02:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw your comment about that earlier. That's where I thought of this.--Taviource 02:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Maybe Paul really IS unemotional and unfeeling. His Pokémon had nothing to do with it and if they fail to meet his demands, he might as well release them, like he did with Chimchar. BlueJirachi 02:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There's a possibility that he would meet Mesprit again and be normal again.--Taviource 02:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

magmar

should'nt pauls magmar have it's own page discuss - unsigned comment from Tylerkarnes (talk • contribs)

One tiny appearance does not warrent an article. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

they gave paul's gliscor a page before it's second apperance

BUT GLISCOR DIDN"T APPEAR IN A TINY FLASHBACK!!!!--KukiTalk 20:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

magmar still demonstrated 2 attacks and was in a gym battle - unsigned comment from Tylerkarnes (talk • contribs)

Gliscor was the focus of a whole episode, reappeared, and showed 3 attacks. U HAVE NO REASONS--KukiTalk 22:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

The point is that, unless it appears in an episode and not a flashback, then we would make one. But not before it. And sign your posts. It's not that hard.--^Psychic_Rider^☮ 22:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Every article should be judged on its own merits. (And this goes for Paul's Pokémon even more than other trainers - we've already reached the consensus not to have an article on Azumarill.) Gliscor could still be deleted now if that conclusion was reached, though even the one episode provided more notability than Magmar has. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 21:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Its appearence in DP100 is probably worth discussing article candidacy at the very least --User:Thingamajig257 ^{|Talk Page|} 10:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

My opinion: it does not deserve an article. Why does every Pokémon of a rival character have to get its own article? Yes, he's important to the series, but unless he is in every single episode, he doesn't need a bio of all his Pokémon. In all honesty, I think the only Pokémon of his that need pages are Torterra (being his starter), Chimchar (being his primary Pokémon until its abandonment), and possibly Electabuzz and Ursaring, since they are his "preferred" Pokémon. I still fail to see why his Gliscor and Honchkrow have articles, among others. --PAK Man ^Talk 13:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Because Paul didn't release them. Magmar's DP100 appearance pretty much confirms that Magmar will be sticking around, and Paul keeping something he captures isn't too common- consider Azumarill, Stantler, and the three Starly. Only the Pokémon that Paul released (or else only were seen for about a second, such as Ninjask) don't deserve articles (and thus, don't have them). So to summarize, we are not suggesting articles for all of Paul's Pokémon; only the ones he actually keeps. And Ash's Chimchar.- unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 19:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Drapion

Should it be included in the Status Unknown? Since he was seen trying to catch one. He looked annoyed after it fled. He wouldn't be annoyed if he only wants to battle it, right?-Billy4b2004 09:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Well if it Fled, It shouldn't be there. --Force ^Fire 09:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Fearow had also fled but we still have it there. And we don't know if he'll try catching it again like what he did with Fearow. -Billy4b2004 09:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

That's because we don't know if he successfully caught it or even caught it at all. But we do know Drapion fled instead of being Captured, Therefore we know he never succeeded in catching Drapion, and never did try again later in the Episode. --Force ^Fire 09:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Fearow

Why does it keep getting removed?--KukiTalk 16:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Probably due to a question in the Pokémon.com mailbag that states that Paul did not succeed in catching the Fearow. Of course, that answer is more than likely dub-biased, there's no such statement made concerning the original Japanese version, and if Paul suddenly shows up with a Fearow in hand...--Shiningpikablu252 17:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about that, OK thank you--KukiTalk 17:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...the Pokémon on the "Unknown Status" section are there because we do not know where they are...but what about his Torterra, Weavile, Honchkrow, Gliscor, and Magmar? As of the current episode, we can't be sure if all of them are still with him. So does this go by the last episode he appeared in or by the current episode?--^☆Tavisource 00:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Last episode of appearance. When he appears again, the whole process is repeated. Jmath 14:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

has

for not letting me submit my trivia, i have deleted this article and some more