Talk:PokéGods

Deletion

Really, how are these any different to Fake Pokémon. It says that they are a group of fake Pokémon, but not what what makes it a PokéGod rather than a regular fake Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster. Help here 00:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

If anything, merge, not delete... CuboneKing (Planet Cubone • Bone Club) 00:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't really have any extra information. Maybe both tags are necessary? --SnorlaxMonster. Help here 00:23, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

My opinion: It should not be deleted. Nor should it be merged. It does, however, need to be expanded upon a whole lot. The whole PokeGod rumor deal was huge back in 1998-1999 - at the time my involvement in the fandom was basically limited to occasionally discussing the anime on message boards, and even I knew of the term. It most certainly deserves its own article, as a major part of fandom during its time. We just need someone who was more involved in the PokeGod phenomenon back then to give the article more substance. 梅子^❄_❅ 01:16, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I say no. The PokéGods stand out among Fakemon, and deserve their own article. CuboneKing (Planet Cubone • Bone Club) 01:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

It's fairly notable. PokéGods were fairly notable.--GreenGyarados^{Happy Holidays!} 01:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

OK, then it needs some serious expansion. I see no difference between these and regular fake Pokémon from what this article says. It tells me what were considered PokéGods, and that PokéGods were fake Pokémon, and that there were fake cheats to get them; but it doesn't tell me what a PokéGod is. --SnorlaxMonster. Help here 02:59, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Recent Work

A lot of the recent additions may have brought the article up to higher standards, but much of it is still incorrect. Ah well, guess not every site can be fully-informative. Redstar 15:01, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Of course a lot of it is incorrect - PokeGods don't exist!

As for what was considered to be correct among the PokeGods phenomenon, I did extensive research on the subject, determined which were considered by the fandom to be the "leading sites on PokeGod information," checked out some other PokeGod sites also (sometimes having to make use of the Wayback Machine, of course), and took information from there. Of course there were a lot of conflicting "facts," due to the fact that PokeGods were complete made-up bullshit and anyone would just claim whatever tyhey wanted about them, but I took what seemed to be the most commonly-accepted spellings/evolutions/rumors and that's what I put on the page. (And btw, I don't quite appreciate your veiled accusation on my talkpage that I had made it all up.)

Though could you possibly point out exactly what you find to be incorrect, so that I can look into it? Specifics will help us become, you know, more informative. 梅子^❄_❅ 18:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I didn't imply you made anything up, though your mentality that it's all "bullshit" just goes to show you probably shouldn't be writing on the subject. Redstar 18:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

bull·shit n.

1. Foolish, deceitful, or boastful language.
2. Something worthless, deceptive, or insincere.
3. Insolent talk or behavior.

PokeGods are all fake. Made-up. Bullshit. That doesn't mean that I can't write about it (and even if I did absolutely detest the subject, I'd still write about it if no one else would, because I am perfectly capable of taking an objective stance in writing).

Also, my apologies for saying that you were accusing me of that; I viewed your comment on my talkpage as somewhat confrontational (asking why I was updating it... because, uh, why shouldn't I be?), so, along with your mention here that a lot of it was incorrect, I took "if anywhere other than your head" as a veiled accusation. I'm sorry for doing so in error.

On that note, would you mind pointing out exactly what is incorrect...? 梅子^❄_❅ 18:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't necessarily mean to be confrontational, though discussions do have a tendency to be hard-headed.

For starters, it's incorrect because you're operating off the assumption that all of it was made-up. This actually isn't true, though I can understand why someone would think so. In any case, I do enjoy your expansion of the article and am looking forward to seeing where it's headed. Redstar 18:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

POKEGODS EXIST??? HOLY SHIT WHERE?? -- MAGNEDETH 18:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

...So. Exactly what is it about PokeGods that was not made-up? 梅子^❄_❅ 18:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I've done the research. You're welcome to do the same and discover the truth. Redstar 18:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, dear. Unfortunately, it seems that I'm not nearly as amazing at doing research as you are. Would you be so kind as to share this information with lowly little me, o superior one? 梅子^❄_❅ 18:55, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not trying to presume or imply anything. I just wanted to make note that the mentality of this page is rather deprecating, and against the research. I can't help in any other regard. Redstar 18:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

this is amazing. ive heard about PokeGods, but ive never actually got to see, or use one! i would love it if you could show us some of the research you have. -- MAGNEDETH 19:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Is it really so hard to just provide links to where you've found this research? --Shiay (The Morty Lover ♥) 19:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm just saying, provide sources. Redstar 19:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

hows about YOU provide sources? -- MAGNEDETH 19:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not the one editing the page, and I'm not the one claiming having done research that's being used on the page. Redstar 19:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

You are, however, claiming to have found sources that conflict with the information used on the page. But, you provide no source information to back up your claims. It's a two-way streak, Redstar. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 19:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't "have" the source information on me. I just recall what I've read and seen back in the day. I only want to see someone provide sources if they're claiming to have done research. Redstar 19:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Redstar, with all due respect, you're not even telling us what exactly it is that you think is wrong about this article. Umeko and any other user is allowed to edit this article and add information. If you don't have sources to counter this information, it stays. Back up your claims or stop protesting against the edits. --electAbuzzzz 19:25, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

So I heard that you want sources. Here's a good source: http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/animerpg/rumors.html ;-) Pokemon lover 19:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

anyone can link any number of Angelfire, Geocities, Yahoo Groups, or assorted horrible late 90s fansites, and the conclusion is the same. POKEGODS DONT EXIST. THEY HAVE NEVER EXISTED. thats why this page is merely explaining the point of PokeGods and what they meant to us old kids back in the day. the name is still thrown around quite a lot, but it doesnt mean anything, they dont exist. its a popular fanon term on the same level as HSOWA or "if you use Strength on the truck, Mew will appear!" and so on. what Umeko is putting in the article is fine. she has discussed this article with me and other admins. PokeGods were invented by kids with computers back in the day. they dont exist. i dont want to hear any more about unverifiable claims because you cant verify something that doesnt exist. ive actually got a few "PokeGods" in my Blue version. theyre basically glitches, but we believed a lot of stuff we read on the internet back in the day, and thats what this article is about. -- MAGNEDETH 19:47, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I know they are fake. The link I posted was to a page that seems very reasonable and explains why the so-called PokéGods seem to exist, not that they exist. It's exactly the opposite. And like you said, the "real" PokéGods, if I may call them this way, are just really crazy glitches. So no Venustoise, Mewthree, Pikablu, or whatever people. Just get over it. But of course that we must talk about something that's part of the fandom's history, considering we have an article about it and are willing to take out the lies. ;-) Pokemon lover 20:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

why are you telling me to get over it? i know they dont exist. and my statement wasnt entirely aimed at you, i was basically explaining that for this article, there is no such thing as a "source" as much as there is a memory in every kids head. and as a nod to Redstar, you can "research" something that doesnt exist, but in the end youre just wasting your time. -- MAGNEDETH 20:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)