Talk:Azure Flute

Say you caught Arceus. Then, for some reason/by mistake, you released it. What would happen if you went to Spear Pillar? - unsigned comment from Giratina's Embodiment (talk • contribs) 03:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

There would not be one there b/c there is only one in the games. And please sign your comments.--Midnight Blue 06:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Say you got an Arceus that was created with a cheat from an online trade, but it was corrupt and you released it to prevent further/possible damage. If it were to mark your pokedex as "caught", would you be able to get to hall of origin with a legit azure flute? --HakairyuvK 18:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes you would. The code on the Flute only checks if you have an Arceus from the Hall of Origin and has you set as the original trainer. It has nothing to do with the Pokédex.--Mtn otter I lie in wait...... 22:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Could you then, theoretically, transfer an infinite number of Arceus out of the save file? If so, it might be a good idea to mention in this article, the minor glitch list article, and Arceus's own article. --TruePikachu 08:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Never been used????

I notice this article says it has NEVER been distributed. Is that true? Nobody in the entire world has EVER gotten the Azure Flute legitimately??? What's it there for, then? Bttsstewart 01:16, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I has never been distributed over Wi-fi or any other way. It's for Arceus, they did the same thing with Darkrai and Shaymin. Just wait a couple months and they will release it. But that's what I'm predicting.--Midnight Blue 01:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Toys"R"Us had an Arceus Giveaway event which began on November 7th and lasted through November 15th. --Arima 22:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

http://www.thespeedgamers.com/toys-r-us-arceus-event-for-us-and-puerto-rico

But they just gave the Arceus in that event. The Azure Flute will be used in a later Arceus event, just like how Oak's Letter was distributed months after Shaymin was. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:11, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The article says if you catch Arceus, then the azure flute will no longer work. Does the TRU Arceus count as catching Arceus, so that, even if you get the Azure flute you won't be able to get a second Arceus? Or is the game smart enough to know that Arceus is not the one caught by you. (I fear it may not be that smart, because apparently the Arceus respawns if you faint it.. That reeks of sloppy coding) Daniel Benoy 19:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

First of all, no, receiving one from an event does not count as catching it in game, so you could still use the Azure Flute to find Arceus after you've done the Toys R Us event. Secondly, it respawning is not sloppy coding. As of Generation IV most Legendary Pokémon respawn after certain criteria have been met if you didn't succeed at catching them the first time. --AndyPKMN 11:55, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

RE respawining legendary Pokémon, I think that is only Platinum and later, as DP doesn't respawn as far as I'm aware. RE Azure Flute, never released, for future reference. RE the first part of the Andy's statement, the HoO Arceus is different from the one you recieve. It's like how you can still catch Darkrai if you recieve the Alamos Darkrai. --TruePikachu 08:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Possible name similarity

It may just be me that's weird, but I see a slight resemblance between the names of the Azure Flute and Arceus. (Arceus to Azureus). Could there be some link, perhaps? Soma K. 22:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

If you tweack it slighty, you could put under Name orgin. Truthseeker4449 22:53, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm it doesn't really sound simmilar to me. If anything it's very slight. Not saying you're wrong, just voicing my opinion. --Pokemaster97 23:47, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Can't use it

I got an Azure Flute (Don't ask how), but it won't work. Every time I selected the Azure Flute, the "Rowan's voice echoed" just appeared and no staircase appeared. Is there a certain spot to use it? SilentGuy 14:30, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Not very ocarina like

The trivia mentions it "very closely" resembles an ocarina. I play one, and it doesn't. The only thing I can think is that it's blue and vaguely flute-like, which very loosely describes the Ocarina of Time. --KingStarscream 01:24, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Well there's different types of ocarinas: There's the Transverse kind (The Ocarina of Time is Transverse), then there's also a Pendant kind (which I have. It's nearly a circle in shape), as well as a few others, and they come in all kinds of sizes. So I can see how they can see resemblance to a combination transverse/pendant ocarina. Bit more information here. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 01:49, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

On origin section...

Azure Flute's overall design might be inspired by tsuchibue[1] or sho[2], and the idea behind it is likely influenced by the fact most Shinto ceremonies use flute and wind instruments[3]. Trainer Yusuf (talk) 08:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

The Japanese name translation?

So, are we sure that "Heaven Flute" is the best translation? Personally I think "Heavenly Flute" would work better, seeing as の can also make the preceding word an adjective. Thus, てんかいのふえ could be either "Heaven Flute" (lit. "Flute of Heaven") or "Heavenly Flute". It would make more sense for it to be the second one, seeing as "Azure" is also an adjective; plus, it just sounds more natural. Morning Glory (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Heavenly has a fairly different meaning than "of heaven".

Fundamentally, it's irrelevant that Azure is an adjective. (They could've made it a verb if they wanted but that wouldn't mean we'd have to obey that for our own translation.) The Japanese is the important thing. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

What I was trying to say is that in Japanese, the particle "no" can make the preceding word an adjective, OR it can show ownership. It depends on context, mostly. It isn't that they're the same thing, but that it could be translated either way. The current translation uses "Heaven" as an adjective, but what I was wondering is if that's really the best word to use. "Heavenly" can mean "really amazing and wonderful" or it can mean "something which in its nature is from heaven" (e.g. "This cake tastes heavenly!" vs. "heavenly host" i.e. angels). Thus, technically, "heavenly" fits both bills, but ultimately it's up to personal interpretation which one is picked. One person might prefer "Heaven Flute", another "Heavenly Flute". The dilemma, then, is deciding which one to pick, and I was simply submitting it for consideration. Morning Glory (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I pretty much gave you my opinion in return. Heavenly is weighted more towards 'amazing' than 'heaven'.

IMO a large goal of an informative translation (as opposed to one that you specifically want to work in a "story") is clarity. There may still be good alternatives for the translation, but IMO heavenly isn't quite the right choice. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)