Talk:Musharna (Pokémon)

Physiology

May I type a physiology description for it? I am eager to help with the Physiology sections of the Pokémon, but I would like to know if I should wait until the pictures are implemented for them. Perhaps I am simply being impatient...Steph 22:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You're more than welcome to go ahead and do that. You've been doing a good job with the other Pokémon so far. Werdnae (talk) 22:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Id like to add that Musharna bears a resemblance to the face in the painting persistence of memory by Salvador Dali. Would this be ok? --Yunophobia 03:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

That seems highly irrelevant and is probably coincedental. On a side note, the article states "ovular", when it should be "oval" or "ovaloid", since ovular doesn't actually refer to ovals.--Element03 04:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Done. Werdnae (talk) 04:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, it's a fetus, in some non existent womb. I cant believe anyone hasn't seen it yet.Ph4mp573r 15:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Come on, Nintendo's not gonna make a Pokemon based on a FETUS. --Reversinator 15:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Er, ah....yes. I think it should be changed to "oval" or "ovaloid". I can guess I used the word incorrectly in the description, now. Steph 15:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

If I understand correctly, mew is a fetus, there's a few clues that point towards that origin.

Anyways, You've seen the painting persistence of memory correct Element 03? If you have, I cant honestly see how you would think it was coincidental, hell musharna and the face in persistence of memory are almost in the exact same position. Heres a link to the painting on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Persistence_of_Memory. Might I also add that the painting was originally concieved in one of Dalis dreams, and represents how time fades away while asleep? Musharna is a dream eater pokemon, can you not see the relevance?--Yunophobia 00:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, in case you might be misunderstanding me, I dont want to put this in the physiology section, instead I want to put it under trivia. It fits better there.--Yunophobia 00:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

This may just be coincidence but both Musharna and its pre-evolution have very crescent shaped forms to them. Being the same shape of the moon this may be a refrence to dreems occurring while you sleep at night. EpicShadow 9:46 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Since it is the Trance pokèmon, it seems that rather than being asleep, it is in a trance.A Dream and a Trance are seperate things. maybe the last part of the physiology section should be changed to say "trance" rather than "asleep" 67h5r6h 01:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

dex order

Wouldn't Munna be the previous Pokémon in the Pokédex? Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 21:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

we have to find out munnas number first... (Ataro 21:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC))

I guess, but since Munna is known to evolve into it, then it should be changed. —♥ Jello 21:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

By saying that I mean that Munna should be put as the previous Pokémon, instead of ???. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 21:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, that's what I was going to do, but the edit didn't go through D: —♥ Jello 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Name

Where does the name come from? Eddie Blake 12:43PM July 15, 2010 (AEST)

It is guessed that mushamusha(ムシャムシャ) is an etymology. Mushamusha(ムシャムシャ) is imitation sound in Japan when it eats something. It might eat a lot of dreams. Sawamular101 14:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

It may be a combination of 'Mu', a reading of 夢 yume, dream, with ムシャムシャ　mushamusha, munch and 空しい munashī, void, empty.KurowaSan 05:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Origin

...Yeah, I'd say that Musharna obviously has the same origin as Munna. I still think they both have more in common with baku, especially with the recent CoroCoro leak that states their relation to dream smoke and dream worlds probably, there's just no denying that they're based on the baku.

"Musharna, like Munna and Drowzee, is based on the baku, dream eating demons that resembles tapirs." Mudkipchan 04:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Snippet that no one else has pointed out but seems obvious to me.

Munna and Family seemed to be based off the Malayan Tapir and the Baku. Note the similarity in pattern between Musharna, Drowzee and the Malayan Tapir. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 23:26, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

"Musharna, like Munna and Drowzee, is based on the baku, dream eating demons that resembles tapirs." ahem...

(Ataro 23:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC))

Malayan Tapir. Ahem. I know the Baku bit was included but was the Malayan Tapir bit? Note the design of Musharna. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 23:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

So, no one is going to edit that in? There's more than just one kind of tapir. And Drowzee and Musharna are designed after this specific Tapir yet it's not on either page.

Look it up! Google Malayan Tapir! --Mackinz of SoulSilver 13:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

This sounds to me that something in the origins of Musharna includeding Koro (as it is for Munna) as it is BREATHING smoke, and koro has been talked about being used with insect repelling insence... Megadog 06:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Dream Smoke

I think I read somewhere that musharna had either an ability or item called dream smoke, that allowed for some kind of wifi feature to be used. Shouldn't this be in the article?(if true) 67h5r6h 20:40, 17 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

Musharna has something called Dream Smoke. Whether it is a move or something else isn't known. In other words, we don't know what it is, and so we don't know how it should be put into the article. It will be put in once we have more information about it. Werdnae (talk) 20:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I've heard it is an item that helps you use an online version of the Pokéwalker cald the dreamworld it has minigames and holds events. EpisShadow 3:53 17 July 2010 (UTC)

And where was it stated that it was item? As Werdnae said, we only know it has something called Dream Smoke, but if you found a reliable source that specifically stated the Smoke is an item, then you could put up a link to it. --Element03 00:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

My bad you're right there was no specific verification of it being an item. However there is information about it helping you to link onto the global network. Here is the link (Edit:link removed Werdnae (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)) EpicShadow 8:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

How about we link to our news, rather than the Beach? Here's our article. Specifically the parts about pages 12-15 and 16-18. Werdnae (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. It has the same information either way. Also because Musharna's abilities have already been identified we can rule that out so it is eather an item or move of some sort. EpisShadow 8:54 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Or it could just be something based on it's species, like Shuckle, or Relicanth and Wailord (Sealed Chamber). We don't know that it's an item or move. --SnorlaxMonster 02:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Eyes

Creepy isn't it.....it's staring into your soul

Well With Pokemon Pia out it has artwork of Musharna with it's (creepy) eyes open....and I was thinking this part could be added to the physiology (describing it's eyes and lack of smoke when awake) and trivia section (showing the artwork)..this thing is going to haunt my dreams...... Ataro 09:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC) anyone? Ataro 14:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

sigh...going to try this one last before I give up...

It's like this "When awake its eyes are open and is no longer producing Dream Smoke. This may mean that it does not produce it when awake"

and for trivia just stuff about the concept art showing it awake and stuff...yadda yadda...Ataro 18:35, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

It's speculation to say that. We don't know if it will stop producing it if it's not awake. Wait until some sort of confirmation. --Psy_ライダー☮ 19:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

well you don't have to add the "and is no longer producing Dream Smoke. This may mean that it does not produce it when awake" part..let me try and re word it "When awake its eyes are seen open and it is no longer floating and instead standing upright" or something like that Ataro 19:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

That would also be speculative. You don't know that it only opens its eyes when standing up, it could open them up while floating. Just because the artwork doesn't show it, doesn't mean the possibility is excluded. There's always artwork being released that could confirm or rule out the possibility. It's best to wait. --Psy_ライダー☮ 20:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

OR, you know, "When it is awake it is awake." What would be interesting is a sprite difference, and we just don't have the sprites yet. What we can tell from this is that it doesn't necessarily dream endlessly. PLA 15:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

We can also conclude from this artwork that (this came as a shock to me) Musharna is a biped. Perhaps that should be added to the physiology. EpicShadow 16:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Not necessarily. It could be floating. Phantom♫Junkie 16:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Origin

"It appears to be based on traditional Japanese incense burners called koro. These are used in traditional tea ceremonies, but many styles of koro have been developed to be used with insect repellent incense. Musharna, like Drowzee, also seems to share some inspiration from the myth of the Baku, tapir-like creatures that eat dreams, as well as the Malayan Tapir, which the myth of the baku originates from."

Because it's fairly obvius which tapir it's actually based off of. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 13:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Trick Room?

Can it learn Trick Room by TM? It could in Gen V and Trick Room's still TM92, but it's not listed as learnable. I don't have a Musharna or anything so I can't test it myself. --Raienbrasa (talk) 22:05, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

A lot of Pokémon haven't had their learnsets updated due to the Pokémon not being in X and Y and/or no one having a complete list of moves. Glik (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2014 (UTC)