Talk:Pikipek (Pokémon)
In other lanuages
Could someone please add this section to the article
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--Raltseye 17:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Someone add that the French name Picassaut, in addition to being derived from "pic" and "assaut" is a pun on "Picasso." Catonatrain (talk) 02:34, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
- This has already been added to the article. --Raltseye prata med mej 09:51, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
English and Japanese name origins
Pikipeck is most likely derived from picus (Latin for woodpecker), possibly pico (Spanish for beak or crest), and peck. Tsutsukera is a combination of 突く tsutsuku (to peck) and 啄木鳥 keratsutsuki (woodpecker).--Siobonbon (talk) 18:10, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- The Latin terminology is seen in the scientific names Picidae and Piciformes for the woodpecker family and order, respectively. This is almost certainly part of the name origin and should be included. ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 20:21, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Trivia
This Pokemon was originally revealed as a wireframe model in the Sun and Moon Announcement Trailer. - unsigned comment from Theexploringgamer (talk • contribs)
Evolutions
Somewhat irrelevant but the Pokedex showed that Pikipek is the first of a 3-stage evolution. --Buffbills7701 (talk) 18:55, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
technically, it only showed that it was related to two other pokemon, which can either be evolutions as you pointed out, or other kinds of counterparts. like how weedle is caterpie's counterpart. Yamitora1 (talk) 06:49, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Pokedex Entry
If it is relevant to put in, can someone put this in?
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MB101 (talk) 19:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, we don't know whether that's for Sun or Moon. ht14 21:37, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- I think for now it's fine to put it in for both Theexploringgamer (talk) 14:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Why would that be fine? It's typical that new paired versions have different Pokedex entries, so why is it "fine" to put down what amounts to a lie? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 14:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Because you don't have to be technical all the time. I'd rather have some information then no information. This is a wiki, it's meant to be changed when we find out things.Theexploringgamer (talk) 17:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- It is meant to be changed when fully confirmed details are known. In this case, wiki staff have already said that Gen VII information, especially Pokédex entries, will NOT be added until the games are released because of the number of current unknowns as well as the chance that things can change between now and release. Arguing will not change their minds about this. ChE clarinetist (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- ChE clarinetist is correct. We do not know which game will have which entry, and while we COULD put the entry in now, we are by doing so affirming that the entry comes from these we say it comes from, and we cannot affirm that. the entry is already added, but hidden from view, so the text has already been placed; however, we have not added the template therein because we just don't know yet what game is getting the entry (we don't know if they demoed Sun or Moon). When the games release, staff will be busy finding out all of the pertinent information, and entries/movesets/etc. will slowly be updated over time, and you'll be able to add more information after that as time goes on if we miss something. Until then, just the basic confirmed information will be added to the article. CycloneGU (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- It is meant to be changed when fully confirmed details are known. In this case, wiki staff have already said that Gen VII information, especially Pokédex entries, will NOT be added until the games are released because of the number of current unknowns as well as the chance that things can change between now and release. Arguing will not change their minds about this. ChE clarinetist (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Because you don't have to be technical all the time. I'd rather have some information then no information. This is a wiki, it's meant to be changed when we find out things.Theexploringgamer (talk) 17:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Why would that be fine? It's typical that new paired versions have different Pokedex entries, so why is it "fine" to put down what amounts to a lie? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 14:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I think for now it's fine to put it in for both Theexploringgamer (talk) 14:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Origin
Can it be put in that it is based off of a Pileated Woodpecker please? Playerking95 (talk) 20:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Tiki?
could its name also be a corruption of tiki? afterall, this is a hawaii based region and tikis are often made of wood. Yamitora1 (talk) 04:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Piki could well come from pick, since it is said to take small objects and tuck them into its nest. Արիանո 07:59, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Number Source?
Where did we find Pikipek's National Dex number? I know we had the starters but I didn't see Pikipek's anywhere. Could someone link the source for that? - unsigned comment from Mettie7 (talk • contribs)
- We know Rowlet is National Dex #722 from Pokemon Bank screenshots, and we know (from E3 footage, iirc?) that in the Alola regional dex Rowlet, the other two starters, and Pikipek are #001, #004, #007 and #010 respectively. I personally think the staff are making an assumption when they convert regional #010 to National #731, since for all we know the regional and National dexes might not be in the same order. But such a thing has never happened before, so it's an understandable assumption to make and I'm not going to make a big deal about arguing against it. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 04:16, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
- I thought the Bulbapedia staff was against assumptions, weird. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it either I was just curious as to where they got it from. Mettie7 (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
- As the National Pokédex numbers for Rowlet (#1), Litten (#4) and Popplio (#7) were confirmed to be numbered #722, #725, and #728 respectively, I think the fact that it's #10 in the Alola Dex more or less confirms the National Dex number of #731 for Pikipek. They've done this for Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos, so they will do the same for Alola too. Kangaflora (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- We're playing it safe. If Pikipek's #731, then great, but for all we know it's currently unknown. --Carmen★ (Talk | contribs) 19:14, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Except it has been confirmed through it's Alola dex number. Come on guys. Theexploringgamer (talk) 13:18, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- There could be four separate dex's, the mons could be jumbled up differently from the regional and the national. We don't know until the games are released. "The regional order correspond to the national order", yeah, and I thought we'd have gym leaders in this game and look what happened.--ForceFire 13:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- Except it has been confirmed through it's Alola dex number. Come on guys. Theexploringgamer (talk) 13:18, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- We're playing it safe. If Pikipek's #731, then great, but for all we know it's currently unknown. --Carmen★ (Talk | contribs) 19:14, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- As the National Pokédex numbers for Rowlet (#1), Litten (#4) and Popplio (#7) were confirmed to be numbered #722, #725, and #728 respectively, I think the fact that it's #10 in the Alola Dex more or less confirms the National Dex number of #731 for Pikipek. They've done this for Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos, so they will do the same for Alola too. Kangaflora (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- I thought the Bulbapedia staff was against assumptions, weird. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it either I was just curious as to where they got it from. Mettie7 (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Models
I understand we aren't supposed to add things datamined from the Special Demo Version, but what about things that are present in the game? My point is, we have access to Pikipek, Yungoos, Jangmo-o, and Hakamo-o all in the game legally and not-datamined. So, can we not take those models and put them on their respective pages? Blootannery (talk) 01:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Models are not easy, and Bulbapedia's resources are relatively limited. We do what we can, and for the time being, models are a ways down on the priority/capability list. (Ask yourself if you can get models. Whatever you can think of is probably more or less what we can do. And remember that we have to have permission for resources produced by others.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:05, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense. But, it makes me wonder. Who was in charge of mining all of the models for gen 6? o.o Blootannery (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't personally know exactly. You may take note, however, that we didn't get most of our models until almost a year after X/Y came out. (Of course, that was also the first 3DS generation, so it could be quicker this time. But only time will tell.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense. But, it makes me wonder. Who was in charge of mining all of the models for gen 6? o.o Blootannery (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2016 (UTC)