Talk:Regional Pokédex
Actually, the Johtodex listed quite a few Pokemon native only to Kanto in the games (Such as Grimer, Murkrow, and Houndour). There's not that much difference between the Pokemon populations of Kanto and Johto, but there is one. --Zeta 05:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- The Johtodex listed all 251 Pokémon known at the time. It was not really a 'regional' Pokédex at all. In the game, the Pokédex had 2 options: by Evolution or by Number. Selecting by Number gave you the national Pokédex. Selecting by Evolution gave you the 251 Pokémon of the time rearranged so all the evolutuonary lines fit, and in a more universal order. It didn't even have numbers, they were just listed. In essence, it was merely an updated national Pokédex that is now obsolete. MK 19:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
It did have one thing in common with the regional Pokedexes. It listed the Pokemon generally in the order you'd encounter them playing through GSC. With Pokemon that don't appear obtainable in there being listed last - like the Kanto starters. --Zeta 20:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- That, and well, there couldn't really be any more options anyway. I mean, it's the same as the Hoenn Dex, only they gave numbers to that to discourage people thinking "Okay, we have Pikachu at #25, where can we get #24 and #23, too?" like how the Johto dex was structured with keeping the National numbers. It only did so because everyone was available. Hoenn didn't, and Shin'ō's just keeping Hoenn's tradition. Heck, if Hoenn's dex included them all as of Gen III, it would be in essence an updated National Dex. In actuality, that's what the "by landscape-thing" was in the FR/LG dex, an updated version. Only difference there is that the Johto Dex was ID'd in-game as the New Pokédex, with the National as Old Pokédex. And though GSC went back to Kanto, the New Dex was based off of Johto's starters, like Kanto's, Hoenn's, and Shin'ō's are off of their own. If anything, the Johto dex is a precursor to the idea of a full-out regional Pokédex, because it included all of the known Pokémon at the time. But it's still pretty much a regional dex, even if it doesn't explicitly exclude the Pokémon not obtainable without the Time Capsule, like Mewtwo or the Legendary Birds. Tom Temprotran 05:09, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Exactly. The GSC Pokédex is more appropriately called the "Johto-Kanto Continental Pokédex as of Generation II by location". FR/LG's Pokédex by Habitat was an update to this. So, we should maybe add an asterisk next to the Pokémon you can only obtain from a Time Capsule, etc. MK 07:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Sinnoh Pokédex Omissions
The only reason I can think of for omitting so many new Pokémon from the Sinnoh Dex is the fact that the National Dex is obtained by seeing all the Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex, rather than by beating the Elite Four, and presumably They wanted to minimise the effort required to achieve this... R'win 13:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Article for each region Pokédex
Instead of having articles that just list Pokémon by regional Pokédex number there should be articles that are just about the regional Pokédexes and have a list of all of the Pokémon that appear in the regional Pokédex that can be sorted by more than just regional Pokédex number. Instead of having an article named "List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number" we would have an article named "Kanto Pokédex". I have started userspace articles for each of the new articles here:
I have only put a significant amount of work into the Sinnoh Pokédex so the others are kind of bare-bones, help on these pages would be greatly appreciated! Mew07777 (talk) 19:24, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- No. There is no need to have two articles that are basically the same thing. Not sure why you are obsessing over the need for the list to be sortable, they are listed in a particular way for a reason. Having it be sortable defeats the purpose of the list.--ForceFire 05:29, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Why are the regional Pokédexes divided into sections?
In the regional Pokédex pages, the lists of Pokémon are divided into sections. For example, in the Kanto Pokédex page the list of Pokémon is split up into 3 sections:
- 001 - #051 Bulbasaur - Dugtrio
- 052 - #101 Meowth - Electrode
- 102 - #151 Exeggcute - Mew
I'm not saying we should change this; I just want to know why the Pokédexes are divided into sections. Mew07777 (talk) 16:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)