User talk:AstroACE

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Edit warring

Please try not to engage in edit warring. This is the practice of continually reverting or re-editing something that someone else has reverted or changed. The preferred response when you disagree with another person is to start a discussion on the talk page for the page in question or for the user you disagree with (like below), instead of trying to argue it out in the edit summary.

Please try to keep this in mind in the future. Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Hoenn Route 110 Grunt

Let me start with, if it really is the only instance in the games where there's been a thought bubble, then that needs to be the thrust of your trivia point. That's what would make it notable...maybe. Right now, though, your wording did not include this at all.

That said, I'm really not sure at the moment that that's the only time a thought bubble was seen. Even if it was, however, I'm of the opinion it's still not a notable occurence. I'll bring it up with other staff, but for the moment I'll leave it be rather than continue with more reversions.

I'd also like to make an additional note here: please keep the code of conduct in mind: "Be nice". In your edit summary, "Suggest looking up the definition of could" isn't exactly nice.

(In case you may have missed it, please be sure to read the other message above as well.)

Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought about it some more and I was wondering myself if there were any thought bubbles in Black and White. Either way, the original only shows a dialogue box while the remake shows a thought bubble.

You mentioned this being a cutscene. However, this thought bubble came up after "talking" to the Grunt (i.e. pressing 'A'). You're only able to do this by going to the route before talking to Captain Stern in the museum. My sister and I thought it was a bit odd and notable. I deleted the last sentence to make it a little more open ended on the fact that people could see this information and make their own conclusion on how it would be a bit odd to "talk" to a person and see a thought bubble pop up. I could have put that it was weird but that would have been more of an opinion so I excluded saying this. Trivia is, by definition, information that is of little importance or value. This is why I put the information in such a section in the first place.

Regarding the word "could". The thing is, when I first tried to explain to you what I was trying to get across, I tried telling you that what I meant was that it "could imply" instead of what I wrote which was that it "would imply." It was frustrating however, for you to say that this was the "Same thing." I was trying to emphasis the fact that I said 'could' instead of 'would' however this was difficult for me considering the word limit. I'm not really fond of using twitter for this same reason. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings regarding this.

All this being said, I had little hope in thinking that you would actually consider really listening to any conversation that I made about this. The fact remains that this is trivia based information and, as such, I felt it to be somewhat counter productive to have to explain this whole thing for a tidbit of information.

(AstroACE (talk) 14:41, 3 August 2016 (UTC))

Side Note: I was thinking about including the fact that the Grunts block the path before talking to Captain Stern but I didn't know if I should put that as trivia or include this at top.

(AstroACE (talk) 14:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC))

I didn't mean to say this grunt was in a cutscene. When I mentioned that, I just meant, if you saw a cutscene for somewhere where the player isn't physically at (like often enough happens in the games, like the Mossdeep Space Center scene at the beginning of the Delta Episode), that doesn't mean anything other than that the game is playing it out for you, the player in front of the screen. (I'm totally with you on various text limitations, btw. =P ) Similarly, a thought bubble is just something for you, the person in front of the screen, to be amused by or whatever. ESP doesn't need to be brought up to account for it.

At any rate, there is a line of "notability" for trivia. Like, you could say that one route has a unique number of flowers on it, or a unique number of trees in its border or something, and that's also "of little importance or value", but that certainly doesn't mean it belongs on the page even so. It's very much too trivial. Sometimes, like here, that line may be subjective, but it's definitely not a free pass.

Blocking the path, yeah actually, that's something that should definitely be in the main part of the article. It'd probably do well at the end of the intro. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2016 (UTC)