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The last section, "Returning TMs", needs to be updated for Gen V. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 18:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
The last section, "Returning TMs", needs to be updated for Gen V. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 18:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:I don't get the fact that Sleep Talk and Psych Up have "remained their TM Status".  Because Sleep Talk is not a TM in Gen V, and Psych Up is. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 09:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:I don't get the fact that Sleep Talk and Psych Up have "remained their TM Status".  Because Sleep Talk is not a TM in Gen V, and Psych Up is. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 09:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
== TMs that (almost) everything can use ==
We already have a list of Pokemon that can't use any TMs. On the opposite end of things, should we have a list of TMs that *every* Pokemon can learn? (Minus those that can't use any of them and a few specific others, of course.)
I've actually put together a list for this. I'm pretty sure I've got everything.
*TM03 [gen II]: Curse
*TM06: Toxic
*TM10 [since gen II]: Hidden Power
*TM13 [gen II]: Snore
*TM17 [since gen II]: Protect (except for Regigigas)
*TM20 [gen II]/TM58 [gen IV]: Endure
*TM21 [since gen II]: Frustration
*TM27 [since gen II]: Return
*TM31 [gen I]: Mimic
*TM32: Double team
*TM34 [gen I]: Bide
*TM34 [gen II]/TM87 [gens IV and V]: Swagger
*TM35 [gen III]/TM82 [gen IV]: Sleep Talk
*TM42 [gens III and IV]: Facade
*TM43 [gens III and IV]: Secret Power
*TM44: Rest (except for Regigigas)
*TM45 [since gen II]: Attract (except for genderless and Nincada; includes Mew and Cryogonal)
*TM50 [gen I]/TM90 [gens IV and V]: Substitute
*TM78 [gen IV]: Captivate (except for genderless and Nincada; includes Mew)
*TM83 [gen IV]: Natural gift
[[User:Spudwalt|-Spudwalt]] 04:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 04:24, 18 April 2011

Greengiant, I put the games for a reason so people would know what games they are in. Yes I know they can click on the Gen links but trust me it looked better the way I had it. Thanks for linking the moves, though. Also, you didn't need to get rid of the Move Tutors link I had. Don't overedit.LedianX 00:56, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Chris, with all due respect, I don't believe he's overediting. The names of the games are redundant with respect to what generation they're found in. So long as you link to the generation, a user can figure out the games in it. Evkl 01:18, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think I know what you're saying with how the differences between FireRed and LeafGreen can confuse things so you wanted to clarify. I didn't notice that before, but I think now that there might be a simpler way to say it, I'm just not sure how. I also didn't mean to remove the Move Tutors link, sorry about that. -Greengiant

Just a thought - perhaps, for organizational purposes, we should turn the three lists into one big chart? --Pie 19:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

potrayal

I really think the artical should include info on the looks of TMs, from the box thingys from the TCG to the modern disk shape (I also seem to recall them appearing in special as something else entirely). --Deuxhero 06:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I distinctly remember a Pokémon manga where they appeared as boxes (in a simpler style than the TCG ones, which came later). --DarkfireTaimatsu 20:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
acctualy, thinking about, I'm not exactly sure it was special. --Deuxhero 06:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it was seen used against the Eevee Brothers, which would make it the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga... Eevee learned... Mimic, was it? Let it copy Jolteon's move, I think. --DarkfireTaimatsu 06:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

TM Pages

For TMs that have not changed their move from generation to generation, I've begun changing the articles, since they aren't really referential to the move itself. The current format is TMs vary between generations. However, TMXX is (move) in every generation to date. -- I have switched this to TMXX has contained the move (MOVE) in every generation to date., because I feel the note that TMs vary between generations is both superfluous and misleading if the TM in question hasn't varied between generations. That statement would be better suited for this article. evkl 18:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Rock Smash and Flash

In the trivia section, is it worth noting that these moves have been both TM and HM moves at some point? -- Nebula 00:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Theoretical National TM List

I made a theoretical national TM list. I concatenated each regions TM list (in order), then removed duplicates. What I got was the following:

140 TMs throughout the games! --User:JP585

well thats pretty cool, but, whats the point? -- MAGNEDETH 04:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Well mainly it is for use for theoretical games....or for comic makers who want consistency throughout their stories. Personally I would use it for my comic (gonna make a character as a representative of a TM Factory).--JP585 04:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
well, at the least, it makes for a good piece of trivia. -- MAGNEDETH 04:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
It's an interesting list, certainly. TTEchidna 05:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Trainer Card Game Technical Machines

True, True. The national TM list good view of the totality of Technical Machines. Of course I did not include the TCG machines. They are not numbered

--JP585 05:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon

What about the other moves from Mystery Dungeon? --ht14 21:49, 21 April 2008 (GMT)

I don't know what you mean. We have articles for Vacuum-Cut, etc.. --ニョロトノ666 01:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm talking about in this article...ht14 02:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Include Glitch TMs

Why not someone add in the Glitch TMs as well? - Hazardous FIRE! 04:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Because real Pokémon game data and glitch/hack Pokémon game data ought not be mixed. In the Pokémon prev/next for Bulbasaur, it doesn't show Missingno. or 'M. They aren't real Pokémon just like the glitch TMs aren't real TMs. TTEchidna 04:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon that can't learn TMs

Should we make a list of pokemon that cant learn TMs??

we were talking about it in the main page and User:The_dark_lord_trombonator told us to take it here instead; the list we have so far is: Caterpie, Metapod, Weedle, Kakuna, Magikarp, Ditto, Unown, Wobbuffet, Wurmple, Silcoon, Cascoon, Wynaut, Burmy, Combee and Kricketot, Beldum and Smeargle

if we are it should be completed first, also props go to; User:Mr._Charlie,User:Jmvb,User:EpicFail andUser:The_dark_lord_trombonator for compiling the list so far --TiTAn 21:35, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

If there is anything missing, just add it yourself. With that said, I think we have them all. —darklordtrom 21:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, someone else should put this into the page because I dont want to risk doing a bad edit of an article (never edited before)and would rather start with grammar/punctuation errors and not this kind of list
also how do you change your signature --TiTAn 09:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
It's, um, already on the page. Signature changing is done in your Preferences; a basic howto guide for design is here. —darklordtrom 21:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

TM Chart

I was really hoping to find a chart of all the TMs each Pokémon can learn. Having it all on one page would be helpful in deciding whom to use which TMs on. HyperHacker 03:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by that? Each Pokémon has a list of moves that they can learn by TM on their page, and which Pokémon can learn a particular move by TM is listed on the move pages. Werdnae (talk) 06:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Buyable and Unbuyable TMs

There's no Information on the price of TMs. We really need that information to know which TMs are replaceable and which TMs are "super-rare" irreplaceable. --Arima 02:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Never mind... --Arima 02:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Vulpix's energy ball

While a Vulpix that knows energy ball is a good example of a Pokémon which learns a TM move only through breeding in Generation IV, Vuplix and Ninetales can learn energy ball from TM53 in Generation V. Anyone know of an example which still works in Gen V?Chammy 18:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Seriously?

Do you guys really think that there are no TMs in the show?! What if they never appear in the show or Ash and gang find and use them off screen?! Cause there is no way Ash's Herracross could know Hyper Beam or Sleep Talk without using a TM.- unsigned comment from Mr.Char (talk • contribs)

Until we actually see a TM (or hear about one) in the anime, we can't assume that they exist. --SnorlaxMonster 22:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Update needed

The last section, "Returning TMs", needs to be updated for Gen V. Flicky1991 18:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't get the fact that Sleep Talk and Psych Up have "remained their TM Status". Because Sleep Talk is not a TM in Gen V, and Psych Up is. --Jdthebud 09:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

TMs that (almost) everything can use

We already have a list of Pokemon that can't use any TMs. On the opposite end of things, should we have a list of TMs that *every* Pokemon can learn? (Minus those that can't use any of them and a few specific others, of course.)

I've actually put together a list for this. I'm pretty sure I've got everything.

  • TM03 [gen II]: Curse
  • TM06: Toxic
  • TM10 [since gen II]: Hidden Power
  • TM13 [gen II]: Snore
  • TM17 [since gen II]: Protect (except for Regigigas)
  • TM20 [gen II]/TM58 [gen IV]: Endure
  • TM21 [since gen II]: Frustration
  • TM27 [since gen II]: Return
  • TM31 [gen I]: Mimic
  • TM32: Double team
  • TM34 [gen I]: Bide
  • TM34 [gen II]/TM87 [gens IV and V]: Swagger
  • TM35 [gen III]/TM82 [gen IV]: Sleep Talk
  • TM42 [gens III and IV]: Facade
  • TM43 [gens III and IV]: Secret Power
  • TM44: Rest (except for Regigigas)
  • TM45 [since gen II]: Attract (except for genderless and Nincada; includes Mew and Cryogonal)
  • TM50 [gen I]/TM90 [gens IV and V]: Substitute
  • TM78 [gen IV]: Captivate (except for genderless and Nincada; includes Mew)
  • TM83 [gen IV]: Natural gift

-Spudwalt 04:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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