Talk:James

Basis

He is based on a combination of the character of Leonardo Medici Bundle from the anime Sengoku Majin GoShogun and 弁天小僧菊之介 Sarasvati boy Kikunosuke from the kabuki 『白波五人男』 The Five Scoundrels of White Waves.

Please explain how this conclusion was reached. - 振霖_T 03:05, 14 October 2005 (CDT)

Here on the late Encyclopedia Pokemonica. --Argy 20:20, 15 October 2005 (CDT)

Hmm, it doesn't really offer any evidence there either. Of course, Sonansu's model is easy enough to recognise, but... - 振霖_T 00:45, 16 October 2005 (CDT)

Weezing, Victreebel, Cacnea, Chimecho, Mime Jr., Carnivine... half of his main Pokémon have been Plant-type. Is that enough to qualify him for the Plant-type trainer category? --Pie ^~♪♫ 22:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd imagine so. As the seasons progressed, he diverged to more Grass-types while Jessie took mainly Poison-types. If she's a Poison trainer, he should be a Grass trainer. --TTEchidna 00:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

• • The reason I added Jesse as a Poison-type trainer is because she specifically said she prefered Poison-type Pokemon in the Koga episode. Has James ever said anything to that effect regarding Grass-types?

Natane seemed to think he is a Grass-type trainer. - 振霖_T 07:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Inclusion

Should we include Meowth?--KukiTalk 16:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

No, since he isn't owned by the Team Rocket memebers and if you remember in one episode that it was Meowth's own choice to join. He wasnt captured by a member and forced to work for them.

Isn't James the only character besides Ash to have a Pokèmon in training? Why don't we include that? --CoreyLynch 14:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Important! (Regarding James' or James's)

After reading a headline in Newsday, it is confirmed that you DO NOT need the s after in apostrophe for something belonging to James, for example.

To quote the headline "YANKS' BATS QUIETED BY BLUE JAYS"

We need to change all articles pertaining to James back to James_____--KukiTalk 19:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

That's because Yanks is the plural of Yank. If James were the plural of Jame, you'd be correct. But unless James is revealed to be some sort of alien composed of millions of tiny Jame beings (which would be totally awesome, by the way), it all stays as "James's."

Besides, newspapers are just as capable of screwing up as the rest of us. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 19:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

No, when it said Yanks' it was talking about more than one person. Plural nouns only get an apostrophe: the birds' nests (more than one bird with one nest each) and singular nouns get 's like: the bird's nests (one bird owning multiple nests). Learn the rules of grammar. ^Moldy_Orange 19:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for the edit conflicts, Moldy. Anyway, I've spent a lot of time researching this, as I have to use the posessive form of Samus in my fanfics a lot. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 19:14, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized, sorry bout that--KukiTalk 19:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

's cool. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 19:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Sprite

Could any upload a sprite of Jessie and/or James ? ShinyPiKa 22:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ask Taviource or Kenji-Girl--KukiTalk 23:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would you want a sprite for them? Do you mean the ones from Yellow? --☆ケンジガール 01:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes ShinyPiKa 15:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Aww dangit.... I don't have them... neh. Sorry. R.A. Hunter B. 18:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Uh....

Can somebody please fix the James article page? The side menu is now at the bottom of the page, and the text for it has been shrunk. R.A. Hunter B. 03:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

the same with Jessie's----ultamatecharizard

Achievements

In the article it says that James hasn't achieved much, but in the Chronicles episode Training Daze he and Jessie were promoted and got their white uniforms. Jessie and James are higher up than a regular Team Rocket member. Should this be mentioned? Taromon777 23:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

They are not higher than others, in fact, Giovanni pushes them away into foreign places to get rid of them, if I remember correctly. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 23:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

He actually has achieved a lot in my opinion. He has helped save the earth at least one time, in the movie "the power of one".Angel10698 04:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Should we...

Should we add that James is often offended by his own pokemon? (Victreebel, and later Cacnea and Carnivine)--tobytse 13:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

• I think we should.--Maii{{MS|471|Glaceon}} 17:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC)Maii

Hair

I don't want to start an edit war. XD So i'm bringing it up here. His hair appears blue in the TCG artwork, but in the anime it's clearly periwinkle. I brought it up in photoshop, and it's directly between the blue and purple section of the color scale, leaning towards purple. There's been numerous debates on his hair color in the fandom, and no one can ever seem to come to a compromise. So i looked it up, asked various art teachers in my district, and they all said his hair doesn't fit into either category. So i looked up what color it is, and it's periwinkle. Even if he has been said to have blue hair by characters, they're simplifying it. So i think we should put it as periwinkle, seeing as if we put either "blue" or "purple" we'd be incorrect. CherryParanoia 06:33, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to know just when someone in the anime called it blue. It's clearly lavender. Not sure where CherryParanoia is getting periwinkle from, but that's incorrect as well. --Rocket Girl 06:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

If we used Crayola color names in the character infoboxes there would be no end to the arguments that would be had. Blue may be simplifying it, but simple is good. 梅子^❀_✿ 06:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Just like to point out: http://i46.tinypic.com/14l3evd.jpg I just did that on photoshop with the image from the bulba page. First shows his hair being between blue and pink. Second showing where his hair comes up on the color scale (between purple and blue). Last showing Periwinkle. Which i now realize it blatantly isn't. It's more of a Blue-Violet. So i think we should put it as that. CherryParanoia 06:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

The Magikarp salesman once referred to him as "blue haired young man." in the anime. Technically, Misty's hair is orange, yet we still refer to it as red. Let's try not to be knit picky about it. --ケンジのガール 07:10, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

But its an issue commonly argued in the fandom (and orange hair is normally called Red IRL, so that makes sense). And was that dub-added about the hair? Can't trust dub added things. And even if it was in the japanese, they do not commonly use more in-depth words for color (as i learned in class). Really, to end the fighting (and make both sides happy) we should just put it as Blue-Violet. Because Blue will anger people (who commonly bug me to change the page) and Purple will bug people (like you) so lets compromise. CherryParanoia 07:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

C'mon, i was trying to be a good editter and make this work. =_= A compromise was what i think this needs, considering no one will ever agree on his hair color. Everyone i know in the #teamrocket room says his hair is lavender, but you people here say blue. So i was making a compromise instead of getting into an edit war. Can we talk it out and make it work? I already showed evidence it isn't blue, at least in the anime. So we need to find some sort of compromise so an edit war doesn't begin... --^CherryParanoia 21:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Unless the Magikarp salesman said that in Japanese I don't think that should count. --Rocket Girl 21:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

People, people... It's just HAIR. Calm down. The admins have spoken. It stays blue. --ケンジのガール 21:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Not to be mean or anything, but really. Because you're admin doesn't mean you're right. And i'm not saying either of us are right. Which is why i ask for a compromise on a subject thats ALWAYS argued. If we compromise here, then maybe everyone will stop arguing in chatrooms, in the forums. We need to take a neutral view in this page, not taking one side and saying "i'm right because i'm the admin." So we need to have a compromise on the matter. --^CherryParanoia 22:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Just pointing out that Kenji-girl said "admins" - plural. Chances are that it was discussed with the other admins too. 梅子^❄_❅ 22:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

If it was something that was really important, then of course we would discuss it with the user. When it's about a character's hair color... not so much. Please just let it go already. --ケンジのガール 00:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

It's just a commonly debated topic, so i hoped we'd take a neutral stance. Don't say i didn't warn you. o_o;; --^CherryParanoia 01:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Unless you're looking too much into it, his hair's blue. I don't care the exact hex code. His eyes are neon green, we just call them green. Ash's eyes are brown, not "rustic umber" or some bullcrap like that. Keep it simple. TTEchidna 01:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I know that, which is why i stopped my periwinkle arguement. XD And his hair is too light and washed out to know exactly what color, which is why i prompted for a compromised. The hex code says its purple, but it appears blue too, which is why i wanted a compromise. But i'm letting it go for now, just understand i'm only trying to stop any edit war that may happen. There's a bigger debate on the subject than i think you guys realize XD --^CherryParanoia 02:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Considering this hasn't been a problem on this site, and this does not seem to be a big "debate" on any of the popular forums, I think we will be fine. Not to mention I don't see how anyone can call it Lavender. Lavender is almost as dark as purple, and his hair is light. --HoennMaster 02:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Really is it that hard for people to determine? First impressions, in my layman's opinion I have never thought of it as anything but blue until I saw this rant with people over-analyzing the whole thing. I feel that if I took a random cut (from the picture) of his hair and asked people its color, they would say blue with only the odd art student who could come up with crazy colors like "periwinkle" -- D558 06:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Just to inform you all. If you watch the episode Numero Uno Articuno you will get to know EXACTLY what color his hair is as he admits it himself. Meowth says "Don't worry your blue head" and James replies "Its not blue its Lavender" so this argument is worthless since its clearly been stated as to what his hair color is.--Lycos Ex Mortis 17:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Correct. He says his hair IS NOT blue but Lavender. I do have a question about that though. Was this only mentioned in the English dub, or in the Japanese dub as well - Vhayes1992 18:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I remember him saying it was lavender but i thought i also remember him saying it was cyan.Angel10698 04:54, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Disguises

I noticed that on Jesse we have her in all sorts of interesting disguises, shouldn't we post some of James' too? I am not sure if he invented new names for his alter egos like she did. Most notable though is that shot from the censored TV episode where he has boobs, the controversy it created seems notable for listing it here. Tyciol 09:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

They're alter egos. Not disguises. Jessie gets them cause she participates in contests unlike James who does nothing.--ForceFire 10:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, James did enter a contest disguised as jessie.....Angel10698 17:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Picture

Is it okay to put anime artwork of James in the anime section instead of the screenshot from an episode. This is the picture I was thinking about.

James

- Vhayes1992 14:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

A better idea, that picture should be in the infobox. James is an anime character after all. We don't see anime Brock with Sugimori work in his box. We can maybe move the Sugimori work to trivia. --ケンジのガール 23:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Course, are you sure that's official art? I see an error on it. James is missing his belt buckle. --ケンジのガール 23:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I got it from a mini game at the Japanese pokemon movie website. I'm assuming it's official as it's from there i guess. - Vhayes1992 00:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Even If this picture is not satisfactory, could another picture of anime artwork of James work? - Vhayes1992 00:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I prefer this picture myself.Angel10698 17:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC) What is with James having a picture of him in a black suit? He has never worn a black suit except when in disguise? is there a place where this was discusses?Angel10698 17:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

it's his new outfit check the news... Ataro 17:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Uniform

Is his new uniform considered a grunt uniform without the hat? Does this mean that he was demoted or something? - Vhayes1992 14:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I dout he has been demoted becsause the Boss dose not even consider them part of team rocket Lanturn....05308 14:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Considering Giovanni has ordered them to take over Isshu for him, I highly doubt they have been demoted. Also, the outfits are slightly different from grunt uniforms. They are the same as their old outfits except that the white is now a dark gray and they have slightly darker gloves and boots (regular grunt uniforms are pure black). --Phantom♫Junkie 14:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Jame's Pokemon

It says James never fought before catching any of his Pokemon but in "heres looking at you elikid he goes into a flash back bout when he caught weepinbell. He used weezing to catch it. Angel10698 04:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Trivia Change/Removal?

Just noticed this trivia: "He is one of the only main characters to, after being given his first Pokémon, at one point not have any Pokémon on hand, if one doesn't count the events depicted in So Near, Yet So Farfetch'd. This was in A Poached Ego! during the brief moment after he released Weezing and before he caught Cacnea. He currently has no Pokémon with him. The other character was Ash briefly when he was traveling to Hoenn."

Now, James currently has no pokemon, and despite the aforementioned Ash incident, Jessie was also without a pokemon. So, I'm thinking that this trivia should be changed to more of a "James is the only main character to, after being given his first Pokémon, not have any Pokémon on hand for more than X amount of episodes." Currently, it'd be 6. However, it just seems redundant for the trivia to remain the way it is, seeing as Jessie, Ash, AND James have been pokemon-less in the past now. Myzou 23:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. —darklordtrom 10:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

James being in a lower position than Jessie

Is Jessie in a higher Team Rocket position than James? She has more Pokémon than James and has been recognized more in every type of media especially in Unova where she caught one Pokémon and James caught zero so far. PattyMan 01:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I am moderately sure that Jessie, James, and Meowth are all Grunts, haven't caught myself up to the BW season though so I can't say for sure and if I recall correctly there were times when they weren't even Grunts as they had been kicked out a couple times. felinoel 02:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Nope. they all work together. At times James is more dominant and at other times Jessie is. Also just because she has a Pokemon in BW before James doesn't give her higher authority either. I am sure James will catch one in a couple of episodes from now. Frozen Fennec 03:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

James' Nummel

According to AG053 James had owned or at least befriended about 6 Nummel when he was younger. There's even a picture shown... I just dont know how to upload the picture.

Yamask.

Why isn't Yamask in the Pokemon or (on hand) section? and it looks like he captures a Amoongus in Series N but that will be kept to later. Same for Jessie and Woobat. and capturing of Frillish. Captures left to a later date obviously. Prinben (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I looked at the article and noticed there is no "on hand" section instead there is currently owned section, which Yamask is in fact on. I guess that happened because having just one Pokémon in the hand section isn't good enough. I don't know, I think it would have been better as at hand section. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 17:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

There's no on hand section because we don't know if Yamask is still with James or not due to the trio leaving Team Rocket. To be safe, we changed it to "currently owned" so it would be less speculative. --Pokemaster97 20:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Can I just ask, when was the trio leaving/left team rocket? can someone just fill me in here?Prinben (talk) 11:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Carnivine and Nummel

James said he had these Pokemon as a child. hows that possible? if those Pokemon were not yet discovered when he was a kid. - unsigned comment from Archerboy58 (talk • contribs)

The discovering part only applies to us, not the anime. Besides, games=/=anime. PattyMan 22:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Age is 25?

On their respective pages, it says that Jessie and James are 25 as of M02. But I've looked around and haven't found any mention of their ages in relation to that movie. I doubt this is true, so I was wondering if anyone knew of any sources confirming this? The Tomboyish Mermaid (talk) 10:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Just to avoid further confusion before anyone asks: the main discussion about their ages is in the talk page for Jessie, as most of the clues we get are in relation to her. In the anime, James' age is said to be the same as Jessie's by extension. - unsigned comment from Gabo 2oo (talk • contribs)

Still owns Cacnea?

I don't really think he still owns Cacnea. The narrator said that his story with Cacnea had come to an end - generally when a Pokemon is put into training there's some "for now" that implies they could come back. I'd say "given away" is more accurate. Nutter Butter (talk) 17:31, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Hellooooo?

Also, here's another point - the specific reason for Gardenia taking Cacnea was to teach it Drain Punch, but even though we know it's learned Drain Punch from Barry, she still hasn't returned it. Nutter Butter (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Ash also left Primeape to train with Anthony for the next P1 Grand Prix, and hasn't gotten him back yet. Yet Primeape is still considered Ash's in-training. Squirtle was sent back to Vermillion City to lead the Squirtle Squad, and he's still listed as in-training. Same thing goes for Cacnea. ChE clarinetist (talk) 18:20, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

But there's evidence that they are still technically Ash's Pokemon.

Primeape left for a very specific type of training that we don't know if it is yet completed. Also, the narrator stated he may come back, didn't he?

Squirtle has actually been seen returning, like Gliscor and Charizard - the difference being that he went back to his "training" while Charizard and Gliscor went to the lab.

The closest thing to Cacnea leaving for a specific reason was to learn Drain Punch, which, per Barry, he has learned, yet he's still with Gardenia being used full-time as her own gym Pokemon. And the narrator specifically said James and Cacnea's story has come to an end - that's a very definite "won't be coming back". And he hasn't been seen coming back, unlike Squirtle, Gliscor, or Charizard. Nutter Butter (talk) 20:59, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Inaccurate trivia

"James is the only main character to have one Pokémon and release/give it away, then get another Pokémon of the same species." Dawn's Pachirisu. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

I think it is referring to another Pokémon, not the same one, as Pachirisu was the same one she released, while James got a different Weepinbell.--Rahl (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

surname Morgan

I noticed this shows up in https://books.google.ca/books?id=ub4zAQAAIAAJ&dq=%22james+morgan%22

Anyone know where this might have originated? ty (talk) 20:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Either way, it's not official.--ForceFire 06:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Hair color

The infobox says James's hair is lavender... to me, at least, it's very clearly not lavender. I suggest changing it to periwinkle. Here is a picture of lavender, and here is a picture of periwinkle. Lavender is a much more violet color than the color of James's hair, whereas periwinkle is more of a light blue, like James's hair. --Celadonkey 20:16, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

• I compared the picture directly with the colors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_purple) under shades of blue and it appears to be between Cornflower blue and Glaucous.

HarmonytheRocketEeveon (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

I think that periwinkle is a better term because it's much more well known. --Celadonkey 19:32, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

True, so it's like a slightly darker Periwinkle. HarmonytheRocketEeveon (talk) 14:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)