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Not that big of a deal actually, but on the top of your userpage it says "she" joined bulbapedia on 10/'''22'''/10. Then it switches perspective (not that it matters, but my writing teacher would kill you for that) and at the bottom, it says you joined on 10/'''23'''/10. Not that it's my bussiness, but I just couln't help noticing it (OCD). Obviously there is a good reason for it and I'm just too much of a noob to see it, but just had to point that out. <span style="color:Purple">[[User:Blastoiseboy19|Blastoiseboy19]]</span>[[User talk:Blastoiseboy19|<span style="color:pink"><sup>(Talk)</sup></span>]] was here at 00:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC) | Not that big of a deal actually, but on the top of your userpage it says "she" joined bulbapedia on 10/'''22'''/10. Then it switches perspective (not that it matters, but my writing teacher would kill you for that) and at the bottom, it says you joined on 10/'''23'''/10. Not that it's my bussiness, but I just couln't help noticing it (OCD). Obviously there is a good reason for it and I'm just too much of a noob to see it, but just had to point that out. <span style="color:Purple">[[User:Blastoiseboy19|Blastoiseboy19]]</span>[[User talk:Blastoiseboy19|<span style="color:pink"><sup>(Talk)</sup></span>]] was here at 00:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
OOPS sorry I just double-posted, my computer really sucks. <span style="color:Purple">[[User:Blastoiseboy19|Blastoiseboy19]]</span>[[User talk:Blastoiseboy19|<span style="color:pink"><sup>(Talk)</sup></span>]] was here at 00:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC) | :OOPS sorry I just double-posted, my computer really sucks. <span style="color:Purple">[[User:Blastoiseboy19|Blastoiseboy19]]</span>[[User talk:Blastoiseboy19|<span style="color:pink"><sup>(Talk)</sup></span>]] was here at 00:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Also, (stupid me) how do you put the [show] buttons on your usertags? mine just expand my page and it really bugs me. <span style="color:Purple">[[User:Blastoiseboy19|Blastoiseboy19]]</span>[[User talk:Blastoiseboy19|<span style="color:pink"><sup>(Talk)</sup></span>]] was here at 00:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Deletion == | |||
Do not, under any circumstance add information to my talk page that pertains to lecturing me. That is extremly '''offensive''' on my part. Please do not do that again PokePrincess 01:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Well, sometimes lecturing is the only way to teach some people how to do stuff. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 01:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
Who are you? What do you have anything to do with this...Let me answer for you, '''NOTHING!!!!'''. PokePrincess 01:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Sorry, I was just trying to help. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 01:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
Oh I am sorry too its just I am so frustrtaed. I am struggling with images. I know this sounds weird but I don't know how to. PokePrincess 01:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:What must be done must be done. If you go against the talk page policy, or rather, any policy, you'll get a warning. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 01:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
Before you do that, why do we have to keep the welcoming and you are going to absolutley hate me from saying this but can you help with images. PokePrincess 01:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 01:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:We have to keep the welcoming becuase it has some helpful advice you should follow. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 01:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Exactly what kind of help do you need with images? Uploading, inserting them into pages...what? --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 01:40, 20 June | |||
You know how the sprites for pokemon are in those boxes? how do you make thosePokePrincess 05:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC)--PokePrincess 05:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:I'll assume you mean something like [[Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Sprites|this]]. That's done through the use of several {{bp|templates}}. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the {{bp|manual of style}} and {{bp|wikicode}} before getting into templates. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 20:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Fail attempt == | |||
Hey, since you are an admin, is there anyway you can delete my failed attempt at a usertag? It's near the top of the Recent Changes. Thanks! :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 00:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry, I'm only a Junior Admin, which means I can't delete pages. I can bring it up with a higher staff member. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 00:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 00:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
== I have another question... == | |||
Do you know how I can add [[User:SuperAipom7/OVER 9000!|this]] to the other userboxes? Or am I allowed to? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 02:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Read {{bp|Usertag policy|this}}. It should answer your questions. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 02:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks. Do you think my usertag is any good? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 02:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't really have an opinion...sorry. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 02:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::That's fine. Thanks for your help! :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 02:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Policy? == | |||
What is the policy on horizontal lines? You have to agree that on Sawsbuck's page, it would really help to break up that section. [[User:LimeGreenCharizard|<span style="color:green">'''LimeGreen'''</span><span style="color:orange">'''''Charizard'''''</span>]] 15:42, 14 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Official poilcy is that they should be avoided if at all possible. Breaking up a page is generally a bad thing, not a good thing; it disrupts the flow. Sections should be used instead. Sawsbuck's page already has sections, it does not need further division. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 01:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Minor Edits == | |||
May I ask why all of your contribs are marked as minor edits? They couldn't have all been minor. [[User:LimeGreenCharizard|<span style="color:green">'''LimeGreen'''</span><span style="color:orange">'''''Charizard'''''</span>]] 19:16, 14 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Some of us have all our edits marked as minor by default, because most of our edits are. It's easy to forget to unckeck the box when making a large edit. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 01:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Type Templates? == | |||
Hello, I've noticed that there are two templates for Pokémon types. One is <nowiki>{{type|Type}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{t|Type}}</nowiki>. Is there a preferred template or are they enterchangable? [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 02:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
:See [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Nouns, capitalization, and specific terminology|here]], bullet five. {{Template|T}} would be used when describing a type as a noun and {{Template|Type}} would be used when describing a type as an adjective. For example, use {{Template|T}} when saying "''Pikachu is weak to the {{t|Ground}} type''", and use {{Template|Type}} when saying "''Pikachu is an {{type|Electric}} Pokémon.''" --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 03:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Ahh, I understand now. Thank you! [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 03:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Deleting an account== | |||
Hi there, I was wondering if you could delete/cancel my account? It occurs to me that, although I enjoy reading through this wiki, I don't have the time or the resources right now to contribute. | |||
Thanks :) | |||
Reedreda | |||
[[User:Reedreda|Reedreda]] 17:48, 16 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Contributing isn't necessary; you can just not contribute. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 01:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
I would rather just not have an account until I actually have a reason for using it, if that's all right. -{{unsigned|Reedreda}} | |||
:Due to the way the wiki is built, we are unable to remove accounts. Feel free to ignore your account though. It isn't doing any harm by leaving it idle. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 04:06, 17 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
Carmenstar97 I need your help! I want to make my own profile page but it wont let me. It's says I need an admins permission. Can I have your permission? Sincerly - Adrian {{unsigned|Adrian0849}} | |||
==Doddman== | |||
when will [[Ash's Krookodile|this page]] be unproteted ? This Pokémon is fully evolved and shoudend't be portected anymore. {{unsigned|Doddman}} | |||
== Move/Addition requests == | |||
As the server move has broken the php mail() function, I'll post this here instead: | |||
Hiya, I noticed the archives. wiki is locked and I needed a file moved. The File:DW_unidentified_candy_house.png needs to be changed to File:DW_Gingerbread_House.png as it was released today and I updated the [[Décor]] page accordingly. | |||
Speaking of the [[Décor]] page, I would like permission to start working on a new Dream World Item template and 2 new pages to separate out the Plain and Dolls catalogue from the [[Décor]] page as it's now just a monolithic page. | |||
Feel free to get in contact with me about any of this. I seem to be picking up the Dreamworld section and attempting to keep it up-to-date and cleaning it up where possible. | |||
<sc>'''[[User:Pyrii|<font color="#e8e">♪Pyrii♫</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Pyrii|<font color="#747">talk</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pyrii|<font color="#747">contrib</font>]]</sup></sc> 01:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I added my suggestions for discussion on the [[Talk:Décor|Décor talk page]]. But the file move is still needed. <sc>'''[[User:Pyrii|<font color="#e8e">♪Pyrii♫</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Pyrii|<font color="#747">talk</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pyrii|<font color="#747">contrib</font>]]</sup></sc> 01:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== The Lylat Wiki returns. == | |||
Hello, Carmenstar97! I'm RingtailedFox, assistant administrator at the Lylat Wiki. I just wanted to let you know that we've come back online after a lengthy hiatus, and our URL has changed to http://www.starfoxwiki.info . I'm sending the word out to all the NIWA members/affiliates, as the old URL no longer points to the website. :) [[User:RingtailedFox|RingtailedFox]] ([[User talk:RingtailedFox|talk]]) 03:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== User: page == | |||
Just wondering if you'd know anything behind this, but a few weeks ago I was notified that my user: page was created, but when I went onto a PC a few hours to actually prepare it all, I found that it was all gone, include the message another person left me (I think it was someone starting with "Z"). | |||
I just wanted to find out if there was any exact reason why I was told that the page was created, then only a few hours later all evidence of it was erased? | |||
Sorry if I sound rude or anything, I'm not too used to human contact :S {{unsigned|Flamerheart}} | |||
== When can you create a page? == | |||
I would like to know when a user can create a new page. I really want to make my user page. <br> | |||
[[User:Supermarti15|Supermarti15]] ([[User talk:Supermarti15|talk]]) 19:34, 26 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:You'll have to wait until you're {{bp|autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed}}. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 23:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Archives protection removal? == | |||
Could you do anything to remove the protection of Bulbagarden Archives? Since X and Y are out now, I guess there is no real reason for keeping it protected, just like Bulbapedia. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:15, 25 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Now that you're active...== | |||
Could you please take a look at [[User:TheOriginalOne/Template:Kal|this link template]], and possibly mainspace it? Thanks. [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:red">'''オリ'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:green">'''ジ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:blue">'''ナル'''</span>]] <small>TheOriginalOne</small> 00:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:That template already exists: [[Template:Kal]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 00:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Sorry for the trouble: I assumed it because it's not listed [[Bulbapedia:List of link templates#Pure disambiguation|here]]. Please add it, and thank you for your time. [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:red">'''オリ'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:green">'''ジ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:blue">'''ナル'''</span>]] <small>TheOriginalOne</small> 13:52, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Reporting a user breaking the Code of Conduct == | |||
While I do not disagree with {{u|Mask no oni}}'s accusation that I am a stickler and a pedant in [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Umbreon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=2536&diff=1994526&oldid=1992374 this edit summary], and in fact am proud of those qualities because they make for better copy editing, I do believe he is also calling me an "elitist shithole" unless I have misread his post, so I'd like to report him for that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:49, 26 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Merge files == | |||
I think these files/pages should be merged. Since I can't do that as a regular user, I'll post it here. | |||
[[File:Skier_II_OD.png]] with [[File:Buena_II_OD.png]] | |||
File:Pokemon_Fan_Club_Chairman_Kanto_II_OD.png with File:Name_rater_Johto_II_OD.png and File:Radio_Director_II_OD.png | |||
File:Youngster_II_OD.png with [[File:Schoolboy_II_OD.png]] and File:Santos_II_OD.png and [[File:Arthur_II_OD.png]] | |||
File:Johto_Move_Deleter_II_OD.png with [[File:PokéManiac_II_OD.png]] and [[File:Wesley_II_OD.png]] | |||
[[File:Frieda_II_OD.png]] with [[File:Copycat_II_OD.png]] | |||
Note: there are two grey pixels that shouldn't be there on the Weasley and Frieda's sprite (not their duplicate uploads though), that you'll notice if you enlarge the image. | |||
A good example of many characters with the same sprite merged to one file is ''Rocket Grunt M II OD'' [[File:Rocket_Grunt_M_II_OD.png]].[[User:TorNyan|TorNyan]] ([[User talk:TorNyan|talk]]) 17:25, 3 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== I have noticed a mistake, but am not sure who to tell. == | |||
I have noticed a mistake on some information regarding a specific Pokemon, but I am not sure who to tell. | |||
I was hoping you could help me, as the Administrators I may have asked are inactive. --[[User:Guakstick|Guakstick]] ([[User talk:Guakstick|talk]]) 13:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Diploma == | |||
Hii, in the page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Diploma] (Diploma) theres 2 pictures that where taked by a camera, i have these 2 on a normal DS size (256x192) taked normally as well. | |||
i can send you these two for the page. but tell me how to do that. {{unsigned|Araraura}} | |||
== Hell their please give me chance == | |||
i really want to join please please please pretty please | |||
i will do anything to join | |||
also trivia for James that he caught three pokemon by food thats good trivia --[[User:DareDevil|DareDevil]] ([[User talk:DareDevil|talk]]) 01:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
== New Project == | |||
I have an idea for a new project concerning the Pokémon world: Project Record (name can change). | |||
Basically, it's a project in which we would categorize every Pokémon-related world records. | |||
To give an idea, here's some of the records it could feature: | |||
*The biggest <langage> TCG collection | |||
*The most hours played at <game> | |||
*The fastest time to level up a <pokemon> from level <x> to <y> | |||
*The biggest official Pokémon plush/shirt collection | |||
*etc. | |||
Ideas and records are endless, anything would be considered record-able if it is: | |||
*Proven | |||
*Breakable | |||
*Quantifiable (countable, mesurable) | |||
Need more info? Let me know! :) [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 20:29, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Honestly, the idea for this project is both impossible to gauge and not notable enough. Things like records would fit more under trivia, and even then, it's impossible to figure out what exactly those records are, since the Pokémon community is so large. I would say no to this idea, but thank you anyways for your efforts. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 20:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Well, since the community is so large and because we can't go to people's house to validate it, what about we limit the range of this project to the games? Like, think about it, every number (exaggeration) can become a record! :O As long as they provide a video footage to prove it, it can become something great which I consider myself to be able to handle. If your answer is still a no, I will stop trying. I see so much potential, and to be honest, I find this a lot more notable than the project ship (my opinion only). [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 21:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Bulbapedia is not a record-hosting site, but rather an encyclopedia about Pokémon. This project, while subjectively may be notable, just doesn't fit the aims of Bulbapedia. My answer is still a no. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 21:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Invalid Information == | |||
I found an invalid information about Mr. Briney for generation 6, I am not sure how to reformulate the sentence though. | |||
It's written ''"Mr. Briney is first seen near the [[Rusturf Tunnel]], asking the {{player}} to recover his {{p|Wingull}}, [[Peeko]], from a {{tc|Team Magma Grunt}}{{sup/3|R}}{{sup/6|OR}}/{{tc|Team Aqua Grunt}}{{sup/3|S}}{{sup/3|E}}{{sup/6|AS}}."'' | |||
Maybe this is true for RSE, but for ORAS it isn't. Mr.Briney is first seen in front of his house (cottage). [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 21:29, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:You could say: | |||
:''In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, Mr. Briney is first seen near [[Rusturf Tunnel]], while in {{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}, he is first seen in front of his cottage on {{rt|104|Hoenn}}.'' | |||
:''Outside of Rusturf Tunnel, he will ask the {{player}} to recover his {{p|Wingull}}, [[Peeko]], from a {{tc|Team Magma Grunt}}{{sup/3|R}}{{sup/6|OR}}/{{tc|Team Aqua Grunt}}{{sup/3|S}}{{sup/3|E}}{{sup/6|AS}}.'' | |||
:--[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 21:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Addition to templates == | |||
In the templates of the Trainers you can meet in the game on certain routes/locations. It includes the name of the trainer, the money you get by defeating him/her, and the Pokémon he uses (including their level and gender). I think we should add to each Pokémon the moves they use. Basically, the same as for [[Brendan]] by example. | |||
What it looks like: [[Petalburg Woods#Trainers|Petalburg Woods]] | |||
What it should look like: [[Brendan#Pokémon|Brendan]] | |||
And again, I'm not talking about changing the whole template, it is awesome as it is for now, a list, but as I said, Pokémon should include their moves too, for the reader to know exactly what he will be facing. | |||
[[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 22:07, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:We don't do that for regular Trainers because: (1) they're just not notable enough, (2) if we did that for all Trainers, location pages would get unnecessarily large and cramped, and (3) I think most people would be able to defeat a regular Trainer's Pokémon before finding out all of their moves. The information could potentially be helpful, but most people wouldn't need it or search it up. And anyways, isn't part of the fun of playing a game the aspect of not knowing every little detail that will happen? --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 22:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Well, I do have a couple of things to argue with you on this. | |||
::*Notability implies since they do have a section just for them, it would just be an additional information about them since, everything's here, except for that. I am not asking to create a whole page for them. Just add something to their section which they already have. | |||
::*They wouldn't get so large and cramped, all we have to do is hide their abilities with an expendable class just like for the Brendan page I just sent you. It's not annoying for the eye, and if you want that particular information, all you have to do is click on a little word. Users who don't want to see it/be spoiled, won't click on it. | |||
::*For trainers like them, okay, I agree, everyone's able to defeat them without preparation. But more advanced Trainers may need some preparation to do so, for some people. So if we do it for advanced trainers, why don't we do it for every trainers? Seems logic to me. | |||
::*Your argument with the "it's more fun to not know it" is pretty (with all respect due) ironic to me. This website is essentially made so that anyone can dig up the information they look for. People who, as you said, play for fun and like to find out the abilities themselves, just won't use the website. | |||
::[[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 22:28, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Your request may sound simple, but the amount of effort and research that would have to be put into it is quite large. Let's look at the {{tc|Ace Trainer}} Trainer class alone. There's about 400 Ace Trainers spanning all [[core series]] games so far. Let's say that on average they have 2 Pokémon each, 3 moves per Pokémon. 800 Pokémon. 2400 moves. And that's just for Ace Trainers. There's over 200 Trainer classes. There could be about 500,000 moves to research. | |||
:::My point is, what you're suggesting is an enormous change, not just a request to add a little "additional information." And for what purpose? Just how necessary would this change be? | |||
:::If you're still determined to have this change implemented, I'd suggest you go talk to the Head of Games or an Editorial Board member, as changes of this size are really not up to me. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 23:15, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::I know this could be huge, but there must be a way to replace every empty spot by "unknown" "to be added" or "if you know, please add it" isn't it? As time goes, cells are gonna be filled. Who would be the best person to contact for this to be discussed with? I would like to suggest it at least. Thank you for your time. Very appreciated! ^^ [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 23:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::Try talking to {{u|Kogoro}}. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 00:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Primal Kyogre == | |||
I must correct you on something. | |||
Primal Kyogre itself is still subject to Fire-type attacks. Its ability renders them obsolete. However, if a slower Primal Groudon or Mega Rayquaza comes out, or they enter the field after Primal Kyogre regardless of speed, Primordial Sea vanishes and Primal Kyogre is able to be hit by Fire-type attacks at the usual rate for Water types. I am thus going to side with the user on Primal Kyogre and Fire-type attacks (same with Water types on Primal Groudon once its ability vanishes), and the table, I think, needs to be redone with the ability in mind as a note. If upper staff made the decision, however, it might be more appropriate to bring it up in discussion. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:You're right, but allow me to defend myself a little. The main reason I reverted that edit was because in cases in which a Pokémon's only Ability is one that affects type effectiveness, such as {{a|Levitate}}, we default the type effectiveness chart to support the conditions of that Ability and leave a note at the bottom of the chart indicating exceptions. Like you said, the table does need to be updated to include a note for {{a|Primordial Sea}}, {{a|Desolate Land}}, and {{a|Delta Stream}}, but at the time I reverted that edit I didn't have the power to edit the template. I thank you for bringing this up, and I hope it's clear now. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:20, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Completely understood. I've gone ahead and removed the Primal Kyogre effectiveness table and notified Force Fire of the issue so that it can be properly addressed. Until it is, there's no point having the different tables. I have urged that notes are needed, myself, since it's clearly causing confusion. I also see no way to add notes like at Hoopa's page, which suggests they may have to do it anyway. If it were up to me (obviously it isn't, just saying LOL), I'd rather the table be factually correct ignoring the ability, and the ability note explaining things, but maybe I'm late to the party on this discussion as well. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:27, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== New template? == | |||
I've come with the idea of a new template. Basically, it's a table with all the bonus stats a Pokémon gains per level. | |||
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MannedTooth/Stats_Per_Level_Gen_3 | |||
Let me know what you think, and should I continue working on it so that when it's full we can implement them? Thanks ! ^~^ [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 04:23, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I changed the template, since this was was not a good idea, so I've come with something else: | |||
: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MannedTooth/Items_In_Manga | |||
:Let me know which one is the best? [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 21:33, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Personally, I think the first table looks easier on the eyes, but the second table is more efficient. You could try making the second table less green. Also, I'm not too familiar with the manga section of the site, so you might want to go to {{u|Zesty Cactus}} to ask whether such a table is needed. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 21:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Snover == | |||
You can tell me why it isn't notworthy that Snover and Abomasnow are the only two non-fairy types who are weak to both Steel and Poison, because that is what the Trivia sector is about in my opinion. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 07:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Unique type combinations are notable, while unique type combinations ''of weaknesses'' are not. If a Pokémon or an evolutionary family of Pokémon has a unique type combination, any unique type combinations of weaknesses that they may have are already directly implied by the Pokémon's type combination. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
: It is just the only evolutionary line that has this, out of all types, their are no types with multiple weaknesses that have this as well. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 19:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I don't think you follow what I'm saying. If an evolutionary line has a unique type combination, then naturally it should follow that the types these Pokémon are weak to are unique as well. Stating that the Pokémon have a unique type combination is sufficient; there is no need to further detail the type effectiveness of that type combination. {{p|Snover}} and {{p|Abomasnow}} are the only non-{{t|Fairy}} types weak to both {{t|Steel}} and {{t|Poison}}? That's ''already'' implied through the fact that Snover and Abomasnow are the only {{2t|Grass|Ice}} Pokémon. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 21:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::: I got that part. What I tried to ask you if it isn't nameworthy to tell that out of all the Pokémon evolutionary lines, only Snover and Abomasnow are weak to all the weaknesses of one type, in this case Fairy, neglecting the fact that Normal and Electric only have one weakness. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 16:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::In that case, then your point just isn't true. {{p|Lileep}} and {{p|Cradily}} are weak to all the weaknesses of the {{t|Dark}} type: {{t|Fighting}} and {{t|Bug}}. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:01, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::: They aren't weak to Fairy, which is also a weakness of Dark, since gen VI that is. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::Okay, I just realized I forgot about the Generation VI changes to the type chart. Forgive me for that. You may re-add your trivia point, but please make sure it's worded clearly so that there is no confusion. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::If I may, if you're looking for a counter to "Snover/Abomasnow are unique in this", {{p|Terrakion}} is weak to {{t|Poison}}'s weaknesses. | |||
::::::That said, I would say that this sort of thing is unnotable anyway just because it falls under that nebulous umbrella of "So what?" To try to be more specific, I would say it's trivia for the sake of trivia, which isn't worth our while. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::...And yet another thing I completely forgot about. Alright, disregard what I said about re-adding the trivia. | |||
:::::::I do believe that a lot of trivia falls under the "So what?" category, so there's a very uncertain line between notable and unnotable trivia. That being said, a trivia policy ''is'' under the works, so that line should hopefully become more clear once it's finalized. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:19, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::: I see it. Even more, all the Fighting/Fire Pokémon are as well. Poison must have slipped my mind, I will remove it again. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::: How is the trivia I posted on the Fairy page not good trivia, cause if that one isn't, most of the Trivia isn't good trivia. Like the one that says this Pokémon is the only ..../.... type. Can also be categorized as "So What?", some people might not care. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 07:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::First of all, do not insert a talk page comment in between two other comments in the same section. This ruins the flow of conversation. | |||
::::::::::Second, your trivia was way too specific (i.e.: had too many specific requirements) to be notable. We don't like overly specific trivia. For example, "This Pokémon is the only ..../.... type" is acceptable by {{bp|staff|our}} standards because its requirements aren't too specific. Even more, it's focusing on one Pokémon out of 721 (with known types, as of the time of this comment) and pointing out its uniqueness from all 720 other Pokémon. When you're focusing on one type out of 18, this makes its uniqueness factor go down quite a bit, so the requirements for the trivia about that type really shouldn't be all too specific. Your trivia required: | |||
::::::::::#Be a type paired with the {{t|Grass}} type | |||
::::::::::#Be a type paired with the {{t|Water}} type | |||
::::::::::#Be a type not paired with the {{t|Fire}} type | |||
::::::::::#Be the only type for which all three of the above is true | |||
::::::::::This is just way too specific to be noted. | |||
::::::::::Third, the Fairy ''just'' got introduced. It's not going to be paired up with every type in the generation it's introduced in. It doesn't matter if it's the only type to not be paired with all three starter types. Adding that trivia point would really be "reaching"/"trying too hard" for lack of better terms; it's deliberately searching and bloating up a factoid (i.e.: adding too many specific requirements) in order to make it seem "unique." | |||
::::::::::Fourth, the "so what?" portion isn't really all that subjective, but instead more based on what we ({{bp|staff}} ''and'' members too, really) find appropriate for the purposes of this site, based on what I said above. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 12:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::Furthermore, although belated, your trivia point was not even true to begin with. Both {{t|Poison}} and {{t|Ice}} also have not been paired up with the {{t|Fire}} type but have already been paired up with the {{t|Grass}} and {{t|Water}} types. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Scans of Generations Ready == | |||
Need to be a confirmed user on Bulbagarden Archives in order to upload the new images. Thanks, [[User:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Blue">Sir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Purple">Finkle</span>]][[User talk:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Green">Bottom</span>]] 04:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:You can upload your images to an image-hosting site and link them so I can upload them for you. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:56, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::The source of these cards are from RockCarolina an associate of The Charizard Authority. RockCarolina only allows me to view the Photo Album. [[User:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Blue">Sir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Purple">Finkle</span>]][[User talk:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Green">Bottom</span>]] 04:59, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::I see that you've asked {{u|Maverick Nate}} the same thing. I'll ask you to hold off on doing anything until you receive his answer, as he is the head of {{bp|Project TCG}}. Until then, just wait for his reply. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 05:20, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Alright, thanks for the quick responses Carmen. [[User:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Blue">Sir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Purple">Finkle</span>]][[User talk:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Green">Bottom</span>]] 05:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::Sorry one more thing. How to I become a confirmed user or autoconfirmed user when the only thing to do there is upload?[[User:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Blue">Sir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Purple">Finkle</span>]][[User talk:SirFinkleBottom|<span style="color:Green">Bottom</span>]] 05:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::You're also about to edit the summaries of files (provided they need fixing). --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 05:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I mean able, not about, but you get the point. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 05:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Why did you deleted it shows personality == | |||
Muk seemed joy to massage his shoulders. --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:We don't need every little detail in the personality sections. Muk's personality was already clear from the content that was already in the section. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::It was preety good as other of Ash pokemon didnt show it.--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::That doesn't matter; it's incredibly minor and unnecessary. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:29, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Ok no prombelm i was wondering are you on fourms can you meet me their i like to ask you somehting on it please--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Better may i email you instead please--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::[[Special:EmailUser/Carmenstar97|Go ahead]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:33, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::ok i did it please give me answer when you have chance--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
Please {{unsigned|SilverioFlame}} | |||
:I have not received any email from you. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
are you sure --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:15, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, I am sure. Please make sure you're using the following link: [[Special:EmailUser/Carmenstar97|here]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 05:17, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
i send it again --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:if not work please give me your email adderesed please--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::did it work--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:52, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::No, it did not. Just email me at carmenstar97@gmail.com --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 05:55, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
I send it --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 06:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Ash's Torterra == | |||
And why in the word is the fact that both Torterra, as Turtwig, and Bulbasaur both are the protectors of a sort of village filled with Pokémon. Both protect a Pokémon from Ash and his friends, Either it being an Oddish protecting for Misty, or Ash's Pikachu, thinking it being a wild Pokémon, protecting it for Ash, Dawn and Brock. Afterwards, both are captured. Sounds like perfect trivia for me. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:25, 15 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:While true, it's just not significant enough to include. Also, comparison trivia on Pokémon pages is generally discouraged due to the amount of subjectivity it involves with regards to notability. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:: Seeing that most of the Trivia I add is almost directly removed again, can you explain to me what the Trivia sector is for? Everything I include is to specific or not neccessary. [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 06:36, 16 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::The information that belongs in the trivia section really varies depending on the type of article. In general, though, the trivia section is for small little tidbits about the subject of the article that don't really fit anywhere else on the page, yet are interesting and informative enough to include. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 14:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Sorry == | |||
Sorry about that, I completely forgot I could edit all the page by one entire time. I promise after the last edit I was programming to do on the page this kind of thing is not going to repeat, I'll edit everything together. Really, it was not my intention to polute the history board I just forgot it :/ {{unsigned|HilbertCalderon}} | |||
:No worries, just remember to preview from now on. Thanks! --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 21:59, 22 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
Sorry about my over editing. I will try preview it next time -Mygs | |||
:That's alright. Just remember to always preview your edits before saving so that you get it right the first time. Also, for future reference, please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If done correctly, it will produce your signature with a link to your talk page as well as a time stamp. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 02:56, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== About using the roundy templates == | |||
I have a huge question that I'd really like to ask you. I've been trying to use the roundy templates in the tables, and unfortunately I'm having difficulty in being able to use it on the bottom row of the table. Like for instance, if I try putting it in the same way as it is done with the top row, it does absolutely nothing. I'm not sure if it's a bug with the tables or if I'm actually using it incorrectly. | |||
I try using this code: | |||
<nowiki> | |||
{| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" | |||
|- | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Stairs}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Stairs | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Warp Points}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Warp Points | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Wonder Tile | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Rescue Point}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Rescue Point | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Carpet}} | |||
| {{roundybr|5px}}; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Carpet | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| {{roundybr|5px}}| If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. | |||
|} | |||
</nowiki> | |||
But it ends up turning up like this: | |||
{| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" | |||
|- | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Stairs}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Stairs | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Warp Points}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Warp Points | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Wonder Tile | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Rescue Point}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Rescue Point | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Carpet}} | |||
| {{roundybr|5px}}; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Carpet | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| {{roundybr|5px}}| If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. | |||
|} | |||
The bottom row just simply doesn't show any curved edges. I have to say, I'm terrible at programming, but I'm willing to learn! —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 12:20, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Change your <code><nowiki>{{roundybl|5px}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{roundybr|5px}}</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>style="{{roundybl|5px}}"</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>style="{{roundybr|5px}}"</nowiki></code>, respectively. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 12:30, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I just tried putting it in, but unfortunately the background still has sharp edges on the bottom row. As you can see here: | |||
<code><nowiki>{| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" | |||
|- | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Stairs}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Stairs | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Warp Points}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Warp Points | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Wonder Tile | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Rescue Point}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Rescue Point | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Carpet}} | |||
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}"; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Carpet | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}"|If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. | |||
|}</nowiki></code> | |||
{| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" | |||
|- | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Stairs}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Stairs | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Warp Points}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Warp Points | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Wonder Tile | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Rescue Point}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Rescue Point | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Carpet}} | |||
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}"; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Carpet | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}"|If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. | |||
|} | |||
Is there something else I need to put into the code? —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 12:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::There shouldn't be a <code>;</code> between <code><nowiki>style="{{roundybl|5px}}"</nowiki></code> and <code>align="center"</code>. Other than that, the bottom right corner looks fine to me (on Google Chrome). Something worth noting is that on Firefox (and maybe other browsers), even after taking out the <code>;</code>, you will not be able to see the roundy corners. What ''does'' work is taking out the style settings you set for the entire row (after the <code>|-</code> for the last row) and manually placing it in each of the last row's cells' settings. There are also a bunch of style issues with your code that, while technically not wrong, are considered outdated on Bulbapedia, namely the use of <code>align="center"</code>. Coding is a bit hard to explain in words even though I'm trying my best to explain, but perhaps if I fixed up the table code in [[Dungeon tile]], and you viewed the diff, it'd be easier for you to understand? --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 13:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::That would be fantastic. Thank you so much! I had no idea that the code that was used was outdated. I'm still learning things.—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 13:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::Scratch that, I'm leaving that page alone for now since another staff member wants to edit the content on it as well. Instead, I'll try to explain how we format table code by using your second table and editing it. | |||
:::::This is your second table, exactly as it was when you first posted it: | |||
{| class="roundy" style="background: #C3C3C3; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #2C2C2C" | |||
|- | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF;| Image<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| Tile | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md red color}}|R}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|{{color|{{md blue color}}|B}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md time color}}|T}}]][[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|{{color|{{md darkness color}}|D}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|{{color|{{md sky color}}|S}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF"| In-game Description<small><sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup></small> | |||
! style="background: #FFFFFF; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Details | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Stairs}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:StairsUp.png]][[File:StairsDown.png]][[File:StairsDisabled.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Stairs | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Warp Points}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WarpTrap.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Warp Points | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Wonder Tile}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:WonderTile.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Wonder Tile | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Rescue Point}} | |||
| align="center"| [[File:RescuePoint.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Rescue Point | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. | |||
|- style="background: #FFFFFF" | |||
{{anchor|Carpet}} | |||
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}"; align="center"| [[File:KecleonCarpet.png]] | |||
| align="center"| | |||
| align="center"| Carpet | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| align="center"| — | |||
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}"|If the player finds a [[Kecleon Shop]], items are placed on these. The player may either buy or steal the items; however, thieves are confronted by many high-level Kecleon. | |||
|} | |||
:::::This is how it is, after fixing up the code: | |||
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; background:#C3C3C3; border:3px solid #2C2C2C" | |||
|- | |||
! style="background:#FFF; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Image{{sup/md|RB}}{{sup/md|TDS}} | |||
! style="background:#FFF" | Image<sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup> | |||
! style="background:#FFF" | Tile | |||
! style="background:#FFF" | In-game Description{{sup/md|RB}} | |||
! style="background:#FFF" | In-game Description{{sup/md|TD}} | |||
! style="background:#FFF" | In-game Description{{sup/md|S}} | |||
! style="background:#FFF" | In-game Description<sup>[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|WW}}]]</sup> | |||
! style="background:#FFF; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Details | |||
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{{anchor|Stairs}} | |||
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| style="text-align:left" | To further advance in a dungeon, a player must find the stairs. On the last floor of most dungeons, it will take the team out of the dungeon. The stairs can go up or down, depending on if the player is to descend to the dungeon's basement floor or ascend to the top of it. | |||
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| style="text-align:left" | Warp Points are found at the last floor of some optional dungeons. It instantly warps the team out of the dungeon. | |||
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| style="text-align:left" | Varying numbers of these can be found on a floor, if the dungeon contains them at all. If there is a yellow arrow above the player's or partner's head (indicating a stat problem such as lowered defense, accuracy, etc.), stepping on one of these will restore the normal state. However, it also cancels stat increments of the Pokémon. | |||
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| style="text-align:left" | Rescue Points are found when atempting friend rescues and appear at the same spot as the fainted Pokémon that are being rescued. | |||
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:::::Sorry I can't explain in a more efficient way, but if you compare the codes side-by-side and study them for a bit, you should be able to figure out how table code works. If you have any remaining questions, feel free to ask. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 13:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::Ah! Thank you so much! After looking at the differences, now I see what you mean about it. I have to take out the code next to the <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code>. And also, as you're showing me, it tells me that I have to take out the <code><nowiki>margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;</nowiki></code> code out of the table. I guess that's what was preventing the roundy edges from working on the bottom row. It all makes sense now. Thank you so much! —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 14:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Actually, the <code>margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;</code> was ''not'' what was preventing the roundy edges from working. What those do is just start the table 10 pixels from the left and leave 10 pixels of open space below the table. I left them out because they simply weren't needed for this table. What ''was'' preventing the roundy edges from working was the code next to the <code>|-</code>, which was overriding any other style codes for the cells in that row, namely the roundy calls. Like I said earlier, you have to manually insert that code into the style settings for each cell. So the bottom-left cell would get <code><nowiki>| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | <insert content for bottom-left cell></nowiki></code>, the middle cells would get <code>| style="background:#FFF" | <insert content for middle cells></code>, and the bottom-right cell would get <code><nowiki>| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | <insert content for bottom-right cell></nowiki></code>. I hope it's clear now. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 14:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Ah! Now that totally makes sense. So basically if there's any code in the <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code>, it will use that code for the entire row of that table. I have to remember that if there's anything that needs to be inserted on the bottom cells, I have to make sure there isn't any code in that <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code> space. I will have to remember that only the middle cells should have codes in the <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code> space. Thanks again, I will also work on the other tables on the page and fix them up too. I might also add some tables to the page [[Status condition (Mystery Dungeon)|Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon]] too! —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 14:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Database in the background == | |||
Hello Carmen, | |||
I just picked on a random Jr. Admin, hope you don't mind. I am getting back into the RPG gaming aspect of pokemon and am having fun trying to collect all the pokemon in the Gen 3 games. I am a database administrator IRL and I find that I would like to look up the information I want in a database format. Do you know if there is a background database powering the website at all? I would like to be able to query information to make lists of pokemon based on specific games or find all pokemon on a given route or things like that. I'd be willing to create a database of this information, but before I take on such an endeavor I'd like to know if someone has done it before me. | |||
Thanks, | |||
Charmeister [[User:Charmeister|Charmeister]] ([[User talk:Charmeister|talk]]) 19:50, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no sort of background database powering the website. I don't think we need one, but then again, I'm not sure. Things concerning the inner workings of the site are out of my reach, so I am definitely not the person to ask. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 22:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Ninja == | |||
I think you've misunderstood, I changed the category to Ninja because Ninjas in incorrect. The plural of Ninja is Ninja, just as the plural of sheep is sheep, examples of this are even in the Pokémon games and anime. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 15:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:"Ninjas" is also correct. "Ninja" as a plural is used to reflect the word's Japanese origin, since Japanese words don't really differentiate between singular and plural (as far as I'm concerned). However, this is an English wiki, so we use "ninjas". If you would cite more specific examples of "ninja" being used as a plural in the games and anime, however, this would be a case more worth considering. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 15:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::The description of Mahognay town in HGSS and a character in XY099 use the plural Ninja. Ninjas is an americanisation, commonly used but still incorrect. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Kagetomo told Ippei to "look after my Ninja". Many characters have reffered to the "art of the ninja" rather than 'the art of the ninjas' {{unsigned|05308}} | |||
::::I want to point out that "ninjas" is used in Mahogany's map description in-game, and "ninjas" has been used in character quotes in-game as well. On top of that, dictionaries disagree that it's incorrect English usage, and {{wp|ninja|Wikipedia}} also notes that it can be ninjas in English. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:29, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::'''''Welcome to the Home of the Ninja!'''''{{sup/2|GSC}} or '''''Home of the Ninja'''''{{sup/4|HGSS}} (Japanese: '''ようこそ にんじゃの さとへ''' ''Welcome to the home of the ninja.''), not home of the ninjas. | |||
I'd also like to point out that wikipeida can make a similur mistsake to Bulbapedia as they are simalu websites in nature. As I said, ninjas is an americanisation and is often used and not believed to be incorrect. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:39, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:"A town with a suspicious air to it. It's a hiding place for ninjas." Right there on the page, just below the town description you're quoting. And Wikipedia pulled its citation of "ninjas" from two dictionaries, one American and one British. Are you going to say those dictionaries are wrong? Because if it's in a reputable dictionary, it's acceptable English and cannot be wrong by English standards (until a time it's changed) because it's ''recognized as correct''. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
::"Ninjas" has been used in-game (non-exhaustive list): | |||
::*''"Master KOGA comes from a long line of ninjas."'', Pokémon Red, Blue, FireRed, and LeafGreen | |||
::*''"It's amazing how ninja can terrify even now!"'', Pokémon Red and Blue | |||
::*''"Listen, don't you think my POKéMON are kind of like ninjas?"'', Pokémon XD | |||
::*''"We ninjas appear where you least expect us!"'', Pokémon Diamond and Pearl | |||
::*''"There are several kinds of ninjas. Are you an Iga or a Kouga ninja?"'', Pokémon Diamond and Pearl | |||
::*''"I'm Janine! The essence of ninjas' moves obtained by training! Feel the horror from the Poison-type Pokémon who've mastered it."'', Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 | |||
::"Ninja" is also used as a plural in-game (non-exhaustive list): | |||
::*''"Ninja have a long history of using animals!"'', Pokémon Red and Blue | |||
::*''"We ninja conceal ourselves under our camouflage cloaks. I bet you didn't know where I was!"'', Pokémon Emerald | |||
::*''"We ninja conceal ourselves under our invisibility cloaks. I bet you didn’t know where I was!"'', Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire | |||
::*''"We ninja make the papier-mâché for our invisibility cloaks by hand!"'', Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire | |||
::"Ninja" is also used as a plural in ''[[XY099|The Legend of the Ninja Hero!]]'' around 2:14. | |||
::Many dictionaries [http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/240489 list] [http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ninja both] [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ninja as] correct. The argument really shouldn't be about which is correct (because both are correct). --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Why stick to the present? == | |||
You said to stick to the present tense here, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vital_Spirit_(Ability)&diff=2430808&oldid=2430801 | |||
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However the Dream World shut down, so... you see where I'm going with this? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:48, 20 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Normally, descriptions for game mechanics, such as moves and Abilities, should be written in the present tense. But since you brought up the point that the Dream World is no longer accessible, so that specific characteristic of Vital Spirit can no longer be performed...I think this would be a case in which it is okay to use the past tense. You can change it back, but please do mention (in the article, right after that sentence) that this specific effect can no longer occur because the Dream World shut down, since that fact is quite relevant. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 04:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
Done, thanks. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:42, 20 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Helping == | |||
Thank you for the tip, I am very thankfull for that! {{unsigned|Kenzey}} | |||
:No problem. Also, for future reference, please sign your talk page comments with four tildes <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 16:20, 23 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
I have to learn many to be so good as you kenzey 16:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Making new pages == | |||
Hello Carmen, | |||
I think we should add more movie character pages specifically pokemon such as Latios and Latias from M18.--[[User:AshKetchumonfirex90|AshKetchumonfirex90]] ([[User talk:AshKetchumonfirex90|talk]]) 02:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[[User:AshKetchumonfirex90|AshKetchumonfirex90]]. | |||
:I'm not ''that'' up to date with the Pokémon movies, so I'm not the one to ask about specific Pokémon in recent movies. However, in general, movie Pokémon do not get their own pages unless they were the main characters in that movie or if their role was significant in the plot, as per our {{DL|Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|notability requirements}}, point 6. If you believe that there ''is'' a Pokémon that does satisfy those requirements, you can create a draft of the Pokémon's page in your userspace (after becoming {{bp|Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed}}) at <code>User:AshKetchumonfirex90/<pagename></code> and then contact our Head of Anime, {{u|Pokemaster97}}, listing reasons why you think that Pokémon deserves its own page. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 02:44, 24 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== The unaired episodes == | |||
I feel that since we know the basic important events from those episodes based on the trailer, they should be on the timeline so that people can know how the whole meteorite plot wrapped up. I added the note that they were not aired in the dub and later retconned out of canon, so does that help? {{unsigned|Lawrence}} | |||
:It's not our job to assume how events carry out. If the episodes never aired, then as far as we know (for 100% certainty), there is just a gaping hole in the plot, which won't be filled up until the episodes air (if they ever ''do'' air, that is). We can't do anything about that. We're not going to say that certain events happened if they were never shown to happen. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 16:50, 24 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
:: But we're not assuming anything, all the events I listed are things we clearly SEE happen in the trailer and read in official blurbs released about the episodes prior to being pulled. There have been cases of events being posted before episodes even air based on previews and common logic, so what's the difference here? {{unsigned|Lawrence}} | |||
:::Still, the episodes have not aired. The case with events being posted before episodes even air is that they are all commented out with <code><nowiki><!--</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>--></nowiki></code>. They then get unhidden ''after'' the episode actually airs. If [[BW023 (unaired)]] and [[BW024 (unaired)]] ever get aired, the events can get unhidden ''after'' the episodes air. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:01, 24 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Move images for "unreleased" moves == | |||
For moves such as {{m|Light of Ruin}} and {{m|Thousand Waves}}, would it be alright to upload move screenshots even if no Pokemon knowing that move has been officially released? For example, {{m|Thousand Arrows}} depicts {{p|Zygarde}} using that move, and [[Talk:Thousand Waves (move)]] mentions something about "obvious that it's intended for Zygarde". For LoR, on the other hand, the move is programmed into the learnset of Eternal Flower {{p|Floette}} (although that Pokemon cannot be legitimately obtained as of now). [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 02:53, 14 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It's alright to upload them. You should aim to make the screenshots look as legitimate as possible, as in, have the move being performed by the Pokémon that the move is most likely intended for. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 03:33, 14 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Inconsistencies == | |||
Hello Carmen | |||
I have spotted some inconsistencies between the textgrids the "pokémons in other languages" and "berries in other languages" use. | |||
The ones that the pokémons use are much easier to edit and alter than the current ones the berries use. Does it mind anyone if I change all the "berries in other languages" to the ones the pokémons use and making it so the borders of the grids match the colours of the berries? [[User:Gerrie333|Gerrie333]] ([[User talk:Gerrie333|talk]]) 22:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
:The {{template|Other languages}} template does not have a parameter for the English origin/meaning of names, so for the moment, the tables currently on the Berry pages will do. Also, the other languages tables on the Berry pages are not ''too'' hard to edit; they can be easily understood by observing the existing code and reading {{bp|Wikicode#Tables|this}}. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 23:24, 15 May 2016 (UTC) |
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