Talk:Ash's Pikachu/Archive 1

PIKACHUS GENDER Is NOT CONFIRMED!DO NOT POST ABOUT IT

Thunderpunch

Didn't he get taught Thunderpunch at some point? --Greengiant 19:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not that I can recall. Fabu-Vinny 17:18, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

He probably means that weird rocket punch in The Punchy Pokémon. Where the Boxing gloves gets shot out of Pikachu's arms. --Force Fire 00:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

That attack was called "Rocket Punch" in the dub. Given that it was only attempted once (against Anthony's Hitmonchan, assumed to be wild at the time), I highly doubt we'd need a full article on that move; the best {{m|Rocket Punch}} coding could hope for is a redirect to a section on Ash's Pikachu for that attack.

Granted, Rocket Punch isn't even the only medium-exclusive attack a main Pikachu even packs. Remember Pika's Megavolt from Special? (And is that scan on PS090 from Viz's last stand? And if not, what did Viz say there?) --Shiningpikablu252 00:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Ash's Pikachu's Gender

Something like totally bothers me, does anyone know Pikachu's actual gender? --Hikari-chan 20:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought that characters refer to it as "he" or "him", but that might just be casual talk when they don't know. But Pikachu doesn't have a dent in its tail... hmm... I guess there's no official definition yet, though. Aiddat 10:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, no, Pikachu's gender has never been confirmed on the series, neither by the writers or anyone else involved. It's simply known as an "it". For some reason, many people believe that Pikachu is a male, but I personally believe it's a female. Anyway, my guess is, the characters on the show don't "know" what Pikachu's gender is, otherwise I'm sure it would've been revealed in the series at some point. Another theory I have is, maybe the writers hide Pikachu's gender purposely, so that everyone can have their own opinion about Pikachu's gender.

Judging by the fact that it lacks the dent at the end of it's tail in the DP series, this puts to rest any rumors and speculations, and confirms it to indeed be a male. - Jake

No it doesn't. Don't use Sinnoh Pokemon data for Kanto Pokemon. No female Pikachu from the other three regions (Gen II/III) have the dent, do they? - Cassius335

Until we get a GSDS, that'll definitely remain true. If and when we do, however, will prove it once and for all. Although, you technically can transfer a Pikachu from Kanto/Hoenn and it'll have a dent in the tail if it's female... TTEchidna 02:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

On the contrary, until he see a Pikachu in the Anime with a dent in it's tail, then we will know Pikachu is a male. Until then, it remains final that no gender will ever be specified for it. --Proto Fan 03:53, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

want bout buneary liking him or her does that mean either buneary is gay or buneary a male who likes to crossdress and what about the princess fest pikachu wasn't doing anything but carring misty's bags-sonicflames

Basically all evidence is circumstantial right now - Cassius335

In the episode "Lights, Camera, Quacktion!" is a hint that might help you solve this: first, since the movie being filmed is a love scene, the pokémon at the casting must be male to act as the wigglytuff's love interest (playing a Romeo part). So, Pikachu must be the same gender as Meowth (in love with the girl that trained a Parasect on a certain episode) or Psyduck (being called a "he" by brock in one episode of the first season). He is, therefore, a male, and so must be Arbok, Weezing, Meowth and Psyduck.--Snipe 07:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The sheer history of theatre is against you on that one: Men in female roles (or vice versa) is fairly well known. And the director was an idiot, so gender may not have mattered much to him. Cassius335 21:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Concerning the indent in the tail, the developers could've made this a feature for males instead but considering the popularity of Ash's Pikachu, it may have been a feature on females instead. This is just my assumption.--Pkmn veteran 05:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Exactly my thoughts. I mean, really, it's not like the anime's writers and Game Freak's developers don't communicate. Heck, doesn't Sugimori do the concept art of the characters? I remember seeing one he drew of Ash. TTEchidna 18:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This gender issue also makes me wonder if anyone actually inquired about this on the official Japanese Pokemon site. If memory serves me right, there is an inquiry page where you can ask about certain things like the game or the anime, although I'm not sure about their rules. Anyway, I believe there are some users who have the ability to ask questions in Japanese. --Pkmn veteran 02:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

On the Japanese site PokeAni in states that Pikachu is a male.[1]Ninja Hanako 08:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

It's jsut a fansite...Agent #448♂ ^{DP | E | ☆} 08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the official story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. Cassius335 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --Theryguy512 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the TTEchidna^G_SDS! 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

No Seviper errors? The "Arbok" of Mystery Dungeon says hi.

And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.

Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway. But your logic is weak. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of Computer Soldier Porygon and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "We'll look after him". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. TESHTALKFUN 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

No, that's good evidence!--Theryguy512 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. Cerberus

You can't go by what a fansub said. For all you know they just could of wrote down "he" because the fansubber assumed that Pikachu was a boy. --'ケンジ'ガール 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

XD Perhaps... more investigating! TESHTALKFUN 18:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC) "I just wanna live!!"

I will say this for the people who have been argueing of Pikachu's gender. Pikachu, although never physically said, is in fact a male. Proof is shown of why Buneary likes him. Though some will say Buneary is a boy, proof of her being a girl is in episode #505 "Steamboat Willies!" Happiny, a (now revealed to be famale) Aipom, and Buneary get in dresses. When Dawn sees she says "You girls look so cute." directly to the Pokemon. While he is male, it has never been said of boy or girl, and the writers do not say so to make Pikachu more relatable.--Sh313 01:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SH313

While I agree that Pikachu is a male and that Buneary is a female, to be fair, it's possible that Buneary could have a lesbian crush on Pikachu (granted Pikachu is a female, which I don't believe he is) or that Buneary could think that Pikachu is a male. But either way, I fully agree with you that Pika is a male and Bunear is a female.--Jake 12:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

In one early episode perhaps the Erika one didn't Ash say "but Pikachu's a boy."

Just to clear up, there were three points in the "arguments for Pikachu possibly being female" section that I've removed for being pointless.

1.) Misty's pictured Pikachu in a dress. So what? We've actually -seen- Ash in a dress multiple times, does that mean he's a girl? Of course not.

2.) Buneary's crush on Pikachu. Granted, this doesn't necessarily tell us Pikachu is male with absolute certainty, since it's one sided, but it certainly can't be used as an argument for Pikachu being female. This is just absurd.

3.) Bayleef's rivalry. Just because they have a rivalry doesn't in any way suggest Pikachu is female. Yes, there's the element of gender attraction with Bayleef's relationship with Ash, but that doesn't mean the rivalry works on that same level for Pikachu.

Now, I'm in the "Pikachu is male" camp quite firmly, but I can at least accept the other points there can be used in defence of the female argument. But these three are just silly, and have no place in it. They represent desperate scrabbling around to try to prove something. Prophaniti 22:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Pikachu is most likely male, since, even though it isn't originally from Sinnoh, its tail would have magically (just the way the anime tends to behave often) become heart-shaped at the end, since a female Pikachu from Hoenn/Kanto in Gen III sent to DP through the Pal Park has its tail change.

Uh, Ash's Aipom didn't suddenly get the female hair length upon the transition into Generation IV. It didn't get the female hair length until it was under Dawn's control and it had evolved.

Your claim that Pikachu's tail would have magically changed suggests that Aipom's hair changed as soon as it got to Sinnoh. However, Pokémon who were in a certain evolutionary form at the end of AG191 aren't affected by gender differences as long as they remain in that form, and Aipom's the prime example. Since May's Bulbasaur had evolved after that point, it has the female gender difference.

However, Misty's Politoed's cheeks wouldn't suddenly grow smaller nor would Misty's Gyarados's whiskers turn white (if either/or were female) were they to reappear since the former reached final form within Johto and the latter reached final form offscreen no later than early Hoenn; on the flip side, if Misty's Goldeen were to be a Seaking upon reappearance, its horn would probably be a telltale gender sign since it was still a Goldeen when it last appeared and it could have possibly evolved within the Generation IV timeframe.

Case in point: The animators would NEVER "magically" change a Pokémon to reflect a gender difference. Only evolution can do that. --Shiningpikablu252 01:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

News:All right. Here is the thing. PIKACHU WAS INTRODUCED IN Generation 1, BEFORE GENDER WAS INTRODUCED! IT IS GENDERLESS

If anyone objects this, tell me

It's true that Pikachu was introduced in Generation 1, but the thing is... it's debatable as to whether Pikachu's gender differences were made in Gen IV or Gen I (as the episode "Pikachu's Goodbye had some pikachu having bit marks that looked somewhat similar to the female pikachu's split tail. It definitely couldn't have been a puncture wound, as Pikachu's wouldn't have these wounds on the exact same spot.) Weedle Mchairybug 01:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Genderless = Magnemite. Pikachu need a gender (hey, I got a Charmander in Yellow, traded it forward to Gold when it was a Charizard, and it was male). Just because Gen I doesn't display gender doesn't mean all Gen I Pokémon are genderless. That's stupid to assume. TTEchidna 03:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Pichu

I believe it was originally a Pichu. --Pikachu25 14:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu was originally a Pichu like Ash was originally a baby. Sure, it probably was, but in EP001 it is a Pikachu while Ash is 10. That's all that counts unless we get some kind of flashback in a future episode. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

i can't remimber which episode it was, but i'm sure about the fact that pikachu will never age or get old because he drank some river liquid which made him eternal Gaiden 03:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Pokémon never had the fountain of youth in the anime. Where'd you hear that? --Pie ^~♪♫ 22:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I actually saw it when the CW Was Kids WB, it wasn't a fountain of youth, but it was a rather strange river that made whoever drank from it eternal, it was possibly in the later or mid parts of indigo... or was it in orange islands? i remember misty and ash being there and another female but my memory is cloudy at that point - Gaiden 11:26, 04 August 2007 (UTC)

... I'm pretty sure there's no eternal life river, either, and if there was, they never did anything like make Pikachu special by drinking from it. Perhaps you've confused some details of another episode? --Pie ^~♪♫ 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm also 100% sure that never happened. I saw almost every episode on KidsWB with the exception of one or two Johto League Champions episodes. I also have a fairly good memory in regards to the episodes. I can't think of any episode where a) Pikachu drank from anything or b) say that it is ageless. --PAK Man ^Talk 17:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Alright, it must have been something else then, i could have sworn something like that happened, but i could be thinking of another anime, thanks for your time everyone - Gaiden 02:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --PAK Man ^Talk 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) Agent 448^{δ | DP} 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe that Gaiden has simply confused the healing properties of the lake and river in Mewtwo Returns. Matkin22 20:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

i dont think it was a pichu ...not all pikachu are born as pichu ...Ritchie

Actually, yes they all start out life as Pichu. It's only the Pokémon with pre-evolved forms GenIII and beyond that can be born not as there baby forms i.e. Marill. It doesn't really matter. Ash didn't have Pikachu when it was Pichu so therefore it can't be counted. ☆ケンジガール 23:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Double-Edge

Wait a minute, when did Pikachu ever learn double-edge, and if it didn't specifically use learn as of Ash teaching it, when didit it first use the move. GlalieGuy 00:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it tried to use the move once but failed. Ash may have tried to teach Pikachu Double-Edge but they gave up - Cassius335

From what I can recall, Friend and Foe Alike was the first dub mention of Ash's Pikachu using a Double-Edge attack. However, it was the stadium announcer mentioning it after Pikachu slammed into Happy after coming off the sidelines. It could have been different in the original...--Shiningpikablu252 03:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

That's correct. The exact line was "Pikachu jumps from the sidelines and delivers a devastating Double-edge attack!" --PAK Man ^Talk 17:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Bolded Moveset

Why was the last revision reverted? Looked like a reasonable idea to me. - Cassius335

No real need to indicate STAB for the anime. That's what the bolding's used for. TTEchidna 06:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, except that wasn't what the poster was doing. He was highlighting Pikachu's current moveset (notice he'd bolded Iron Tail, but not Thundershock or Thunder). - Cassius335

Hmm. Well, the question is, do Pokémon have the four-move limit in the anime? TTEchidna 01:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Not as far as I've ever heard (Misty's Caserin has 5, for one). However, Ash's Pikachu hasn't used Thunder in about a season (since Volt Tackle turned up?), nor Agility since who knows when. A case could be made for moves being forgotten or at least becoming disused. - Cassius335

Hey guys, I'm the one who made the edit. Thunder has not been used at all since Pikachu learned Volt Tackle. Don't ask me when it started, but I think after a certain point, the anime tried to adhere a bit more to the games, and along with that, have the four move limit. It's never been spoken, but while you watch a battle in the show, you'll notice that the Pokemon never use more than 4 different moves... at least as far as I've seen. I haven't seen the episode with the Luvdiscs.- OmegaPlatinum

Hmm. Maybe we need to add notes to the moves for "First used" and "last used". - Cassius335

I don't think there is a case for moves being forgotten but stating that moves have not been used in a while is fine. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 11:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Evolve?

Why does Ash not evolve Pikachu?Samrulz123 05:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Because Ash is not that type of a trainer. He never forces them to evolve. If they want to evolve, they do so. JmathTalk 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Isn't Ash that doesn't want that Pikachu evolves, it's Pikachu that refuses to do it. Watch the episode when Ash wins his 4th Gym Badge in Kanto. --うずまきハルカ15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

In Electric Shock Showdown, the fourteenth episode of the series, Ash asked Pikachu if it wanted to evolve. He made it very clear that he would let Pikachu decide for itself. Pikachu refused, and that refusal still stands, which is why Pikachu will never evolve. --PAK Man ^Talk 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, if Pikachu just wants to stay weak then why does Ash still use it? Maybe it will evolve at the end of it?Samrulz123 19:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Because it's his freakin' starter. He loves Pikachu, so he ain't letting go with it. Geez. Power isn't EVERYTHING! TinaTheKirlia ^♪☆ 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

1.That's the problem with Pikachu in the way it is now? Why does it need to evolve? It won't be the same thing if it evolves to a damn Raichu 2.POWER IS EVERYTHING.--うずまきハルカ 20:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I know very well that power isn't everything. Like I just said on Ash's discussion page: It depends on both the trainer and the Pokémon. Whats wrong with a Raichu, anyway? I thought that strength would be at least quater of a trainer's goal? Having your Pokémon look nice ain't gonna win you the league.Samrulz123 04:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu is powerful as it is. It beat a REGICE, for god's sake!!! JmathTalk 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC) If Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, it won't (or if it does, it will possibly be seriously upset about it) Cassius335 12:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. I, for one, am a fully evolved Pokémon and don't want to evolve any further! (Okay, maybe it's time I stopped acting liek a Gallade) Look at the episode closely Pikachu wacks the thunderstone away with it tail. Contact with the Thunderstone should evolve it, no? Agent 448^{δ | DP} | ☆ 12:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently it takes more contact than that. Cassius335 22:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Able to defeat Ground Pokemon

Is Pikachu able to defeat Ground tpyes like Phydon or Golem because of it's level or strength? Because when you think about, depending on a pokemon's level, it has different stats and abilites. Deani-Deani

Yes, but note that Ground-type Pokémon are immune to Electric-type attacks. Ash's Pikachu is able to defeat them because the Anime's writers sometimes comet some errors, if you compare with the games. (PS: sorry my bad grammar :) )--うずまきハルカ 21:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Anime physics, plain and simple. TTEchidna 22:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Also it has some other moves than just electric type moves.SLE_Aman

Yes, but strangely, it has only learned those moves to overcome ROCK Pokémon, rather than ground. It learned Iron Tail to defeat Roxanne; however, it defeats her Geodude with a Thunder, and only uses Iron Tail to defeat Nosepass, which ironically CAN be hit by electric attacks because it is not half-ground, like other rock types he's fought. However, since then, Iron Tail has become a Pikachu staple, and is probably their way of getting around future physics errors of this type. It's just a running mistake or unacknowledged error for the purpose of moving the plot. Pikachu couldn't defeat Brock's rock and ground types, so it got powered up by Flint's watermill generator training so it now has so much electrical power that it can overcome ground's immunity to electricity. That's the anime explanation since EP005. Satosuke 17:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Male or It? Make up your mind!!

I see different parts of this article refer to Pikachu as "it" and "he". Now I'm seriously confused. Which is it already? It or he? Are we relying on the genders that PokeAni gives or not? --☆ケンジガール 07:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

the gender has not been confirmed......so it's an it. --Theryguy512 11:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

umm... question. If it wasn't confirmed, then wouldn't they remove Pikachu and Ash from the Main cast because they didn't know what Gender it was? I mean, It wouldn't be the first time they would remove a character just because they couldn't figure out how to do something. Take Simone Deveaux from "Heroes", for example. the creators couldn't figure out how to direct her, so they ended up killing her off. I'd say it's Male, considering the whole tail thing (If the writers were able to screw continuity in "A Real Cleffa-hanger by having all of the original cast members act as if Cleffa were always in Mt. Moon despite the fact that they should have been clearly surprised that they were even there considering that they weren't there on their first visit to Mt. Moon, they can most certainly add in the whole heart shaped tail and act as though it has always existed. Unsigned comment by Weedle Mchairybug

Uh, no. Since Pikachu's gender doesn't matter that much in the scope of things, removing the main character to solve it would be a bit on the extreme side. Similarly, adding Cleffa to Mt. Moon is a far throw from changing the character design of an iconic Pokémon who has been in the series for 500+ episodes. Honestly, the writers probably see Pikachu as male but since they haven't said so, it is not confirmed in canon and we will continue to use "it". --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 19:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Double Edge (again)

I think we should remove the attack from the attacks Pikachu used. Yes in the English version it said he attacked with double edge but 4kids TV changed the words and mistakened them many times. Pokemaniac102

What did it say in the Japanese version? Anyone? Cassius335 02:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu says Kenny's name?

I HIGHLY doubt this. How can Pikachu say a name of a person it barely even knows while it has yet to speak the names of multiple of Ash's friends? Wouldn't at least Dawn be named by Pikachu before Kenny? I'm sorry. But that was a PURE coinsidence. Besides, Pikachu says "Pi-ka" for practically everything.

I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --☆ケンジガール 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... TTEchidna^G_SDS! 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Pi-ka is said all the time. Cerberus

No, but everyone said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Mabie it was "That guy" Cerberus

Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... TTEchidna^G_SDS! 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) JmathTalk 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I deem that good trivia! --Theryguy512 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. - Cassius335 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I think that it would beat Paul's Electivire(guess) in the Sinnoh League!-Billy4b2004 06:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a correction to this little piece of trivia. Although Pikachu hasn't won against very many elevolutions, he has won against at least one. It was in episode 221 A Promise is a Promise during the Master Quest season where Pikachu and Sparky (Richy's Pikachu) defeated Dr. Namba's Electabuzz together. If you were to say that Pikachu has never beat an Elevolution in a 1-on-1 match, then you'd be correct. Pikafanman 12:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Gah, I hate it when people nitpick trivia. - Cassius335 12:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I hate when people say things about Pikachu that aren't true. In fact, I need to change his page. Pikafanman 10:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid a direct edit to Ash's Pikachu isn't possible at this time. It's been protected due to an edit war over what some people believe is it evolving in DP074, despite the fact that such an event has already been disproven. --Shiningpikablu252 17:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Gah, now Fabu-Vinny's removed the trivia in question, when it was saveable with a bit of rewriting. - Cassius335 20:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

It's a wiki. You can put your own wording in after DP074 airs. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 20:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You still didn't have to remove it... - Cassius335 00:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It was disproven. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 13:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

What was? Optimatum^Talk|♊13:35 20 Mar 2008

...The subject of this discussion. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 13:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

The trivia in question just needed a little rewording, not being removed completely. JmathTalk 13:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. One exception due to different circumstances (the assistance of Sparky) does not disprove the original intent of the trivia. - Cassius335 23:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Speak

Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--DarthCookieMonster 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's said consistently when using the move... TTEchidna^G_SDS! 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with itC Is for Cookie

Games do not equal anime. --PAK Man ^Talk 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That's the sound of the move, not the Pokémon. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh vell, in my opinion it is junkC Is for Cookie

Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon language^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.

Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Double-Edge (Take 3)

I vaguely remember him using Double-Edge in the Kanto League finals but can't be certain. I remember very clearly thinking DE was a stupid move to teach a Pikachu. --Zeta 18:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Dub edit, I believe. But do we have to go into it again? - Cassius335

More trivia

Has Ash's Pikachu taken part in every first gym battle? He faced Brock, Roxanne and Roark. I cant remember if he faced Flanker (flying guy) or the first ballte frontier. I know it didn't go against the first orange island, but would it still count? Chrisriley64

New items at the bottom, please. And yeah, Pikachu was in the Falkner battle (deafeated Hoot-Hoot and Doduo, IIRC) - Cassius335 19:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

He didn't use Pikachu against Noland as that was a one-on-one match with Charizard. The trend is partly due to Ash having less Pokémon at that early stage of a new region. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 21:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Nor did he use Pikachu against Cissy, though he may have originally wanted to. Her gym was Water battles only. However, Noland doesn't count because he's a Frontier Brain, not a Gym Leader. The Orange Crew I guess is a bit dubious too, but they are actually called Gym Leaders rather than another title. Satosuke 17:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

So, May, Dawn, Max, and Tracey's names...

There must have been at least one episode in which one of them was separated from the group. And when that happens, the other members go out searching, yelling out the lost person's name into the forest. Pikachu does that too... Who wants to help me search through all of the Orange Islands and Advance Generation? TTEchidna 06:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I will! ^Moldy_Orange 14:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Trivia Fix

It says "in the 5 regions Ash has visited," now I can think of Kanto Sinnoh Johto and Hoenn but what's the 5th? Sailor Earth 16:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Orange Isles? Battle Frontier? Maybe one of those two........C is for Cookie 17:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

In order, Ash visits: Kanto, Orange Islands, Johto, Hoenn, Kanto, Sinnoh. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 17:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Pikachu's Gender

How do you know that Ash's Pikachu is male? Is it because it says so in articles and the Japanese version of the Pokémon anime that it's a male? - User:Hitmonlee

It might... if any such evidence existed. Which it doesn't (last I checked, Pikachu has always been reffered to as 'it') - Cassius335 10:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

no as I recall in one episode of the dub a nuirse Joy called pikachu a He User:ShinyMedicham

Which episode? And is it in the original Japanese audio? --Shiningpikablu252 23:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I forget which one but I think it was dub only User:ShinyMedicham

Umm... actually, it was the Japanese raw of Electric Soldier Porygon (or rather, a sub of the raw.). Also. I think that the mere fact that May's Venusaur got the female design pretty much confirms that Pikachu is male, I mean, if it was still unconfirmed, they would have given Venusaur the generic (i.e. Male) design. I'd say that they pretty much proved that Pikachu is a male (and even if they didn't, it certainly proves that they are willing to give the gender designs to even Pre-GenIV pokemon, which raises the likeliness of Pikachu being Male. Weedle Mchairybug 20:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

More than likely, Pikachu is a male, but this debate has been going on for so long now, people aren't willing to give in. Guardian of Earth 20:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how many times people parrot it. The tail argument is moronic because it assumes that Pikachu's character design would somehow be changed. If Pikachu ever evolved, the Venusaur comparison would become valid but it won't so gender differences are meaningless in this case.

And since I have to repeat that, I will also repeat that I do think that Pikachu is probably male. It just isn't confirmed. (And no, going by unofficial subtitles isn't wise. You'll need to find a Japanese speaker to listen to the actual audio.) --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 20:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but if the gender difference towards a Pre-GEN-IV pokemon shouldn't be counted, why is it that, when May's Venusaur has a seed on it's back, people edited the article to say that that automatically proves that May's Venusaur is female? I mean, if the tail factor isn't valid, then the seed factor shouldn't be either. Weedle Mchairybug 20:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah the anime has shown that they will change the design of pre gen 4 pokemon to show their gender so if changing Venasaur to female design and calling it female, it goes the same that if Pikachu has the Male design it is male. Guardian of Earth 20:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Bulbasaur evolved. It's form completely changed so adding the seed from the new games was no big deal. (And I don't know what point you are trying to make, Sailor Earth. Bulbasaur doesn't have gender differences but this one had the heart on its head anyway.) Now how the hell would you expect Pikachu's tail to split? --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 21:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not me making the point it's Weedle McHairybug. If it was female they could easily have split the tail and just not mentioned it, just like they didn't mention the seed on its back.

They weren't like, wow that's a strange venasuar, Iv'e never seen that before. They were able to make a Venasaur with female characteristics so they could make a female Pikachu. Guardian of Earth 21:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

How? How could they spilt Pikachu's tail? This isn't a random female Pikachu (which the writers seem to be avoiding adding in), it's the Pikachu that has been around since episode one. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 21:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

They changed Venasaur and it wasn't just some Pokemon. Alright I admit Pikachu is more significant than that, but the point is they changed females to female design and as Pikachu didn't change combined with the Buneary evidence he is definately male. Guardian of Earth 21:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

OMG *slaps forehead*. Look, Pikachu is not the same as Venusaur. We never saw May's Venusaur prior to Gen IV. Only when it was a Venusaur did it have a visible gender difference. They can't just up and change Pikachu because it's female. That's completely moronic. And being that it has a regular tail can't prove anything. Look at Dawn's Aipom before evolving. It had short little hairs when it was Aipom. Did that mean it was male? No. Infact it's been confirmed as female despite having the gender difference that would lable it male. Your argument is invalid.

Oh, and take those images out of your signature. You're not allowed to have those. It's in the MOS which you were told to read. --☆ケンジガール 04:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I just analyzed Ambipom's male sprites and Dawn's Ambipom, and, well, to be honest, they didn't seem that similar (The hair strands seemed MUCH longer and thinner than the Male sprite. I think it's more similar to the female sprite if anything.).

Also, to use a different and better example, Ash's Caterpie was introduced in the 1st gen, just like Pikachu was, and apparantly, in the flashback of the Yanma D/P episode, Caterpie's design changed (At least, that's what I gathered in the episode review thread.), since they apparantly gave it the Green mouth of the 3rd generation beyond rather than the yellow mouth it originally had. If they were able to alter the artwork of Ash's Caterpie to resemble it's 3rd gen design despite it being introduced the exact same gen that Pikachu was introduced in, who says they can't change Ash's Pikachu's tail.

I mean, sure, it may seem inconsistant, but Ash and Brock didn't seem at all suprised that May's Venusaur has a seed on it's back, which, if it truly was the first encounter of a seeded Venusaur, Ash and Brock would have been wondering "Why is there a seed on May's Venusaur".

Weedle Mchairybug 11:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a problem of exposure. May's Venusaur was seen for a matter of seconds (and gained it's gender difference while evolving). We see Ash's Pikachu every single episode. If Pikachu's tail changed, it would be instantly noticeable. If it was changed with no in-story reason for the change, then it becomes a major continuity error. - Cassius335 14:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

There was no "in-story" reason for Ash's Caterpies mouth being green in the flashback, either, and would have been a major continuity error, and that never stopped the writers from doing that to Caterpie (few second continuity or not, they still had changed Caterpies mouth.) Weedle Mchairybug 14:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

We haven't seen Caterpie in over 10 years. And the show has messed up on flashbacks before, so a quick error like this is nothing new for them. Which isn't nearly the same thing as Pikachu (a character we've seen in every episode, many of them quite prominently) suddenly having a different tail after a whole decade worth of episodes. - Cassius335 15:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Look if you want to argue that Pikachu is male, that's fine. But don't go to the stupid gender differences for your main reason. ALL PIKACHU LOOKED LIKE THAT PRIOR TO GEN IV. They're not gonna just split the tail all of a sudden because it is female. And because they didn't do that doesn't mean it's male. Unless someone says it's male, than we can't put a gender. --☆ケンジガール 20:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

By that same token, then we must eliminate the gender of May's Venusaur just because none of the characters even called Venusaur a "she", then? Should we eliminate all pokemon with gender confirmed through actions (and in certain cases, physical appearances) just because they never called it by said pokemon's gender pronoun? Honestly, verbal confirmation isn't always the way to tell a pokemon's gender. Besides, ALL CATERPIES had yellow mouths prior to Gen III, and did that really stop the writers/animators from changing Ash's Caterpie's Mouth to make it look like the updated Sugimori design? no it didn't. Weedle Mchairybug 22:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

• sigh* Good Grief. Look, nobody had a chance to call Venusaur anything. She showed up in one picture for five seconds (which is the only time we've seen her on screen for many, many episodes). And Ash's Caterpie was an equally quick appearence, hasn't been seen since it evolved and could have been the animators not paying attention.

Ash's Pikachu has been constantly on screen for over a decade and ever since it learned Iron Tail its tail has become very, very noticeable. The viewing audience has Pikachu with the same tail for years. Why would they suddenly change it? It's not feasable. - Cassius335 22:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

You know, I just wanted to say right now that, I watched "Pikachu's Goodbye" recently, and I noticed an intresting little detail: about HALF of the Pikachu Herd in that episode had a tiny split in their tails. I mean, most of their appearance in that episode (save the faraway shots) had half of the Pikachu have a split in their tails, and that was supposed to be made BEFORE Gen IV. This leads me to believe that Pikachu's Gender differences were there since the first season of the anime, and the Games most likely swiped that Idea and claimed it to be their own creation and falsely advertized it to have debuted in Gen IV (hey, if they were able to do that with the Double Battle and act as though it originated in Gen III despite it actually originating in the OI season of the Anime, who says they couldn't have done the same with the Tail thing on Pikachu?)

Now granted, I don't know if this proves that Pikachu is a male or not, but it is interesting evidence (or at least an interesting detail) to note. Weedle Mchairybug 12:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Pics or it didn't happen. - Cassius335 18:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I always thought Ash's Pikachu was a female because Ritchie's pikachu had a tuft of sticking up hair on its head which makes it seem more like a guy... and it may be assumed that Ash's one is a female because it doesn't have one... but this characteristic is only for Ritchie's Pikachu so I wouldn't say this is a very good argument...

And people are arguing that Pikachu doesn't have a dent on its tail but even if Pikachu's tail isn't dented, they wouldn't change it because everyone knows Pikachu as how it looks like now... --Wowy 08:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

"...the Games most likely swiped that Idea and claimed it to be their own creation and falsely advertized it to have debuted in Gen IV."

Swiped, claimed, falsely advertized. Those are four words that SHOULD NOT be included in that sentence, as: 1. It's the same franchise. It's not swiping. 2. I saw many DP commercials and none mentioned gender differences. Why? BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 3. Please don't exaggerate it. Mumbles 03:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why I'm bringing this up again, but I had watched the Pikachu's Goodbye episode a few days ago, and some Pikachu had slits in their tails, while others, including Ash's, don't have slits. So this may prove that they had gender differences for PIKACHU the whole time and just never put it into the games until now.--☆Tavisource 23:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you know of a site that allows good-quality screenshots for Pikachu's Goodbye? I want to use a couple of screenshots as proof since Cassius335 thinks that, if I don't have Pics, it didn't happen (I can't use Serebii.net since they don't seem to allow you to copy/click the pictures and transfer them, and that's the only site that has a decent amount of Pokemon Pics.) Weedle Mchairybug 22:08, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

You could always go into the Temporary Internet Files. On IE7, you can get there through Tools → Internet Options, then "Settings" under Browsing history, and "View files" in the dialog box that appears. --Shiningpikablu252 22:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I did that, but the size of the thing was too dang impossible to find what I was looking for. If you can't tell me an internet site, can you at least tell me if I can search the View Files? Weedle Mchairybug 23:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

A point of evidence towards Pikachu being male (or at least genderles) is EP052, Princess vs. Princess. Pikachu is seen throughout the episode carrying bags & boxes along the rest of the male cast, as the narrator says "[During the festival]...if you're a male, well, you get to carry packages." An old episode, but a fairly strong bit of evidence. (Also: after reading through the discussion page here, I took a look at the line in question from Electric Soldier Porygon. Nurse Joy's response to Ash makes no direct reference to Pikachu at all, let alone one featuring a gender-specific pronoun, which the Japanese language is not big on. A more accurate translation would be along the lines of "I'll get right on that" or "I'll do my best".) A L R 14:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I think Ash's Pikachu is male. Why? (first point is propably, second is possible).

1. In Pokemon Yellow Pikachu love to Clefairy in Vermilion Fan Club.
2. In PKMN Trainer RED team Pikachu is male. Era64 11:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Pikachu's name for Ash

There seems to be no saying for Ash's name, but I believe that the phrase "pika-pi" is used for Ash. In the first movie, when Ash is turned into stone, the first thing it says is "PIKA-PI", and the only logical thing to say there would be his name, or NO, but he also says it as he's trying to wake Ash up, repeating "pika-pi" many times throughout the couple of minutes. Can't really think of anywhere else, I haven't watched the anime in a while. - unsigned comment from Duzzlight (talk • contribs)

Actually, it does. Read the opening paragraph to that piece of trivia. ^Moldy_Orange 23:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Leer

Are we sure Pikachu used Leer in the Episode mentioned? If so, that's another move that Pikachu can't normally learn. Probably would explain why it has only be used once. Aura-Knight 01:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)